SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

So you are admitting guilt and are ballsy enough to gamble on your pack not being large enough to care about busting you?

Gtfoh if you are that stupid to think that way then you are a liability.
If that’s how you want to view me/ this situation, sure man. Whatever you think..
 
No sense in continuing this argument fellas. Looks like a few in here willing to take the gamble. Let the TD’s, or lack of level-set the source.

I’m leaning on that this dude will be just fine . He obviously used a return addy that didn’t dox him in any way so as far as I’m concerned LE doesn’t have dick on this guy. I wish he would change his email though.
 
I'm beginning to question what I would do in masterofron's situation.
Out of protection of the community, I would think that the appropriate thing to do would be to let the members of this board know what happened to protect others.
Out of self preservation I would very selfishly keep that shit to myself knowing the consequences of other members skepticism.

Out of curiosity, what is everyone's take on someone getting a visit from LE and whether or not to inform the board?
Up until now, I thought informing the members here would be the correct move but given the backlash I wonder if being selfish on meso and allowing others to take heat and risk doing time wouldn't be wiser at this point. Taking the selfish/self preserving route would put the meso community at risk as a larger whole.
I'm new here and got NO ONE to vouch for me if I was in Ron's shoes. WTF would you suggest I do, keep my mouth shut at the expense of others?
 
I'm beginning to question what I would do in masterofron's situation.
Out of protection of the community, I would think that the appropriate thing to do would be to let the members of this board know what happened to protect others.
Out of self preservation I would very selfishly keep that shit to myself knowing the consequences of other members skepticism.

Out of curiosity, what is everyone's take on someone getting a visit from LE and whether or not to inform the board?
Up until now, I thought informing the members here would be the correct move but given the backlash I wonder if being selfish on meso and allowing others to take heat and risk doing time wouldn't be wiser at this point. Taking the selfish/self preserving route would put the meso community at risk as a larger whole.
I'm new here and got NO ONE to vouch for me if I was in Ron's shoes. WTF would you suggest I do, keep my mouth shut at the expense of others?
In my case it helped me to speak up when I was scammed. I would suggest to you to speak up as well in any situation that could help others.
 
I'm beginning to question what I would do in masterofron's situation.
Out of protection of the community, I would think that the appropriate thing to do would be to let the members of this board know what happened to protect others.
Out of self preservation I would very selfishly keep that shit to myself knowing the consequences of other members skepticism.

Out of curiosity, what is everyone's take on someone getting a visit from LE and whether or not to inform the board?
Up until now, I thought informing the members here would be the correct move but given the backlash I wonder if being selfish on meso and allowing others to take heat and risk doing time wouldn't be wiser at this point. Taking the selfish/self preserving route would put the meso community at risk as a larger whole.
I'm new here and got NO ONE to vouch for me if I was in Ron's shoes. WTF would you suggest I do, keep my mouth shut at the expense of others?

I think when it happened @Masterofron first had someone else notify the community - @MindlessWork on his behalf.

Buuuuuut, um let’s just say that more than a few people either don’t have a lot of respect for @MindlessWork or it had to do with the way he presented it, I dunno, so it was called out for suspicion. And I think that was when @Masterofron said “fuck it” and came forward and told the community himself.

I would say that’s the right way to do it but carefully choose who is speaking on your behalf.
 
So here's my take on the situation, could be wrong but I feel like this is logical and not too overly involved:

Symbiotics was hacked. He used the same email he's using to source when he purchased raws or something else from PPL or DO. The hacker got his password and email that way.

The hacker was in Symbiotics email and happened to see @Masterofron's order. This is the second time he had placed an order with Symbiotics. Also, if Masterofron had purchased from DO or PPL, the hacker would already have Masterofron's information, therefore he could put two and two together.

Masterofron and the hacker had been going at it talking shit to eachother on the forums, the hacker even said he was gonna have fentanyl mailed to Masterofron's house. So if Masterofron had already paid for his order and it was too late for the hacker to intercept the payment, he simply forwarded the order information to the Post Office or whoever hoping to get Masterofron in trouble.

Sorry if anyone of that doesn't make sense, I just got done from a heavy workout and I'm tired as fuck and my hands are shaking.
 
So here's my take on the situation, could be wrong but I feel like this is logical and not too overly involved:

Symbiotics was hacked. He used the same email he's using to source when he purchased raws or something else from PPL or DO. The hacker got his password and email that way.

The hacker was in Symbiotics email and happened to see @Masterofron's order. This is the second time he had placed an order with Symbiotics. Also, if Masterofron had purchased from DO or PPL, the hacker would already have Masterofron's information, therefore he could put two and two together.

Masterofron and the hacker had been going at it talking shit to eachother on the forums, the hacker even said he was gonna have fentanyl mailed to Masterofron's house. So if Masterofron had already paid for his order and it was too late for the hacker to intercept the payment, he simply forwarded the order information to the Post Office or whoever hoping to get Masterofron in trouble.

Sorry if anyone of that doesn't make sense, I just got done from a heavy workout and I'm tired as fuck and my hands are shaking.
This is exactly how I see it. The hacker even mentioned “I didn’t even know I had you hacked” in this thread which further confirms that the email was just in a pile of emails he hacked off PPL.

Symbiotics got a lesson on security but I’m not convinced that the investigation went any further beyond researching the return addy.

Now we know where Symbiotics gets his Raws though!
 
@SymBiotics I'm pretty sure the person that hacked you must have downloaded your private keys for ProtonMail too. Because why not? Changing your password isn't enough.

Go to settings and go here to keys:

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Then create new key by clicking on Add new key:

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Then be sure to delete the old keys.

A small note: if you have any email left be sure to save them to your hard drive first.
 
@SymBiotics I'm pretty sure the person that hacked you must have downloaded your private keys for ProtonMail too. Because why not? Changing your password isn't enough.

Go to settings and go here to keys:

Lq4o27b.png


Then create new key by clicking on Add new key:

9E2jwuY.png


Then be sure to delete the old keys.

A small note: if you have any email left be sure to save them to your hard drive first.

I would just torch the email and make a new one if I was in his shoes.
 
@SymBiotics I'm pretty sure the person that hacked you must have downloaded your private keys for ProtonMail too. Because why not? Changing your password isn't enough.

Go to settings and go here to keys:

Lq4o27b.png


Then create new key by clicking on Add new key:

9E2jwuY.png


Then be sure to delete the old keys.

A small note: if you have any email left be sure to save them to your hard drive first.
Oh very good suggestion, another good layer of security if you feel your email may have been compromised. Changing the encryption keys will pretty much delete your old emails as they are encrypted by the OLD key and can't be opened with the new so yes your warning about saving any information in old emails by exporting them beforehand is good sense.
 
I think when it happened @Masterofron first had someone else notify the community - @MindlessWork on his behalf.

Buuuuuut, um let’s just say that more than a few people either don’t have a lot of respect for @MindlessWork or it had to do with the way he presented it, I dunno, so it was called out for suspicion. And I think that was when @Masterofron said “fuck it” and came forward and told the community himself.

I would say that’s the right way to do it but carefully choose who is speaking on your behalf.
Yes I've tried to get the warning out but no one listens to me anyway. If anything that happens then it's their loss for not listening to me.
 
To all of you that say you were scammed. Be glad that it ends at that. You lost your money, but you are alive and LE wont care enough to come after you. After injecting 2 ml of test into my quad(first injection), I had severe pip that kept getting worse and had me whimpering like a little girl. Turns out my leg was infected. I'm just glad I got my leg checked out as soon as I did, otherwise I could risk losing part of my leg. Whenever a source pulls an exit scam, just cut your loses, and throw out their gear, or don't. It just goes to show lab tests don't prove the sterility of the gear.

Man I feel like an idiot...........
 
To all of you that say you were scammed. Be glad that it ends at that. You lost your money, but you are alive and LE wont care enough to come after you. After injecting 2 ml of test into my quad(first injection), I had severe pip that kept getting worse and had me whimpering like a little girl. Turns out my leg was infected. I'm just glad I got my leg checked out as soon as I did, otherwise I could risk losing part of my leg. Whenever a source pulls an exit scam, just cut your loses, and throw out their gear, or don't. It just goes to show lab tests don't prove the sterility of the gear.

Man I feel like an idiot...........
Was it this UGL’s gear?
 
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