Also forgot to mentioned Emailed @SymBiotics but his proton email gives me a message stating “recipient could not be found”
Not sure I there is an alt email for him
Not sure I there is an alt email for him
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T&H
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He came back here a few Times after the incident but never posted a new email address. In regards to the pip, could be the oil or fact its t400. One other guy mentioned swelling or infection but never came back or provided proof.
Neewbiest guy
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There was another who mentioned swelling and was also with the long Ester. Others using the short Ester cyp and prop have reported smooth sailing but also take that for what it's worth. I'm hoping it's just a long Ester coincidence cause I'm sitting on some test prop and NPP that I'll try when I'm off cycle to see what happens.
Mast e and test cyp was fine for me too
Symbiotics is Test 300 I was referring that I’ve used T400 on the past and aware that the concentration level causes PIP and should be expected but using Test 300 from Symbiotics was worse was my point
T&H
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Don't know what to tell you then. I get pip on t300, but not bad.
Night_Owl
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Just a heads up...
I'm not sure if we are allowed to mention other forums.
But I would take Jano's report with a grain of salt.
Last week, Jano "found" another contamination in another source's gear.
This time it was a 24.20 mg/ml contamination of tren.
2 contamination in 2 weeks?
I haven't followed this entire thread, so take it for what it is, but figured you guys might want to know.
I'm not sure if we are allowed to mention other forums.
But I would take Jano's report with a grain of salt.
Last week, Jano "found" another contamination in another source's gear.
This time it was a 24.20 mg/ml contamination of tren.
2 contamination in 2 weeks?
I haven't followed this entire thread, so take it for what it is, but figured you guys might want to know.
Neewbiest guy
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Who's gear was it?
Night_Owl
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Southern Compounding
You should post this in the "Jano conman" thread so it will be documented and possibly save someone from using his services.
Why did you post it here? This source is dead and we should let the thread die as well.
Night_Owl
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Because the other incident also happened here.
Anyway, I'll post it in the conman thread.
I don’t trust any one of these bastards anymore. Who is to stop a source from paying someone to purposely mix a vial and send it for testing of a competitors product? I don’t believe Symbiotics eq was contaminated for a second!
it’s a dam shame because we have the ability to self regulate the steroid market and give the middle finger to the FDA but people are too dishonest to make that a reality. This is why the government needs to control everything .
jano, W&M ..... I don’t give a shit. It means nothing anymore.
Ah yes. The incorruptible government. Until there’s any sign of this happening it’s rather short sighted to throw all of this out as rubbish testing. Why not the other way? Why aren’t you assuming all gear is shit until tested? The logic is the same either way....
Point is you don’t know . Testing from one user comes back spot on, test from other user comes back showing multiple compounds . Who was right ? Is the stuff even being tested at all? Why different results from jano and W&M on the same dam compound ?
the entire thing is pointless because you can’t trust anyone anymore. Guy in here claiming he got an infection but when asked for proof he goes ghost . Unless you have your head up your ass it is pretty clear there is some competition wars and it is bring out the worst in the entire community.
I generally agree nobody should be deemed forever “trust worthy” but where is the source wars proof? As far as different results; nobody’s free from fucking up. Sources and testing services still have the element of human error; with malicious/disingenuous intent or not. I find the claim by this source that it’s “impossible” for him to contaminate his gear with another compound as ridiculous as they come. Every source on this board has seen a contamination event IIRC at some point or another. Without proof otherwise I think Meso handles these claims appropriately.
these kind of unconfirmed claims happen all the time...
Hello everyone.
I have reached the point of completion of my new facility and I have healed satisfactorily from my injuries. I will now resume business.
Many thanks to those who reached out with kind remarks.
I will comment on some things here in a numerical format:
1) My packaging and shipping are not, and have not been problematic. Shipments are secure. There will be some changes to my packaging since attention was drawn to it; but the attention to detail will remain the same.
2) My injectable hormones are verified sterile by culture in agar medium. There was no growth after 5 days. No person has or will get an infection from the contents of my vials.
3)Batch 1 of boldenone undecylenate was tested and dosed accurately by W&M earlier this month. I sent an unopened/unlabeled vial. I will not speculate on the cause of the earlier spurious results. I have some images to upload; but there is some incompatibility with the files that I am trying to sort out.
4) I have had a handful of complaints about PIP from testosterone enanthate. I have been using it for several months now; and it has not caused any significant pain to me. However, I use only 0.7ml. There are nearly 300 vials of this batch out there currently. I will be happy to discuss options for those who cannot tolerate it on an individual basis.
5) My devices have been replaced; so there is no possibility of recovery of information before the end of September.
The period prior to mid-September was enjoyable; and I hope to be able to resume supplying you all with quality products.
I can be reached at my new email: symbiotics.aas@protonmail.com
I have reached the point of completion of my new facility and I have healed satisfactorily from my injuries. I will now resume business.
Many thanks to those who reached out with kind remarks.
I will comment on some things here in a numerical format:
1) My packaging and shipping are not, and have not been problematic. Shipments are secure. There will be some changes to my packaging since attention was drawn to it; but the attention to detail will remain the same.
2) My injectable hormones are verified sterile by culture in agar medium. There was no growth after 5 days. No person has or will get an infection from the contents of my vials.
3)Batch 1 of boldenone undecylenate was tested and dosed accurately by W&M earlier this month. I sent an unopened/unlabeled vial. I will not speculate on the cause of the earlier spurious results. I have some images to upload; but there is some incompatibility with the files that I am trying to sort out.
4) I have had a handful of complaints about PIP from testosterone enanthate. I have been using it for several months now; and it has not caused any significant pain to me. However, I use only 0.7ml. There are nearly 300 vials of this batch out there currently. I will be happy to discuss options for those who cannot tolerate it on an individual basis.
5) My devices have been replaced; so there is no possibility of recovery of information before the end of September.
The period prior to mid-September was enjoyable; and I hope to be able to resume supplying you all with quality products.
I can be reached at my new email: symbiotics.aas@protonmail.com
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