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I’ve been meaning to look into this. How does it work? You print out a script and take it to LabCorp?
If it's the same as private md labs, yes. You pay them, and then login and print out a form to bring to labcorp. Got to be the same, but look into it.
 
Thank guys, This is what I found , they have a lab that's like 2 miles away from me. Hoping to get done by next month along with the SHBG Test.
 

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The one for that price is for females, unless I'm looking in the wrong place. I'll keep looking though.
Thanks

If you read the listing for that panel on their website, it states can be used for females and males. It doesn’t matter. However, you need to specify which gender you are when selecting the panel so they can apply the correct reference ranges. That’s a great panel for $75.
 
If you read the listing for that panel on their website, it states can be used for females and males. It doesn’t matter. However, you need to specify which gender you are when selecting the panel so they can apply the correct reference ranges. That’s a great panel for $75.
Agree excellent price... you think you can get away w no e2 sensitive though? I was always told it is a must.
 
Agree excellent price... you think you can get away w no e2 sensitive though? I was always told it is a must.

I have never ordered sensitive. Even when running Nandrolones. I know it’s recommended with Tren and Deca. But without a Nandrolone, I don’t see the point. It will be accurate.
 
Whoever told you that is full of shit.

I must be the guy that’s full of shit. I’ve written this before on MESO...

LC/MS/MS is much more accurate than the standard ECLIA. Give it a try the next time and compare your results running the same amount of test and AI. You’re going to see different values.

The ECLIA was primarily for women and they obviously have higher E2 cause well, they’re women [emoji2369] (about 4-5x higher).

When men use the ECLIA our levels are lower and the accuracy of the method suffers. You’re getting “ballpark” numbers back and those can be 10, 20, 30 pg/ml higher. Not much but could be the difference between a result of 30 and 60. With an inaccurate reading of 60 you’re upping your AI dose but your ACTUAL E2 level is 30 so you come close to crashing it based on an inaccurate number from your blood tests.

The LC/MS/MS is much more accurate and returns a real value. It’s sensitive enough to pick up the lower male values more precisely.
 
I must be the guy that’s full of shit. I’ve written this before on MESO...

LC/MS/MS is much more accurate than the standard ECLIA. Give it a try the next time and compare your results running the same amount of test and AI. You’re going to see different values.

The ECLIA was primarily for women and they obviously have higher E2 cause well, they’re women [emoji2369] (about 4-5x higher).

When men use the ECLIA our levels are lower and the accuracy of the method suffers. You’re getting “ballpark” numbers back and those can be 10, 20, 30 pg/ml higher. Not much but could be the difference between a result of 30 and 60. With an inaccurate reading of 60 you’re upping your AI dose but your ACTUAL E2 level is 30 so you come close to crashing it based on an inaccurate number from your blood tests.

The LC/MS/MS is much more accurate and returns a real value. It’s sensitive enough to pick up the lower male values more precisely.

correct. always, always, always get sensitive.
 
I must be the guy that’s full of shit. I’ve written this before on MESO...

LC/MS/MS is much more accurate than the standard ECLIA. Give it a try the next time and compare your results running the same amount of test and AI. You’re going to see different values.

The ECLIA was primarily for women and they obviously have higher E2 cause well, they’re women [emoji2369] (about 4-5x higher).

When men use the ECLIA our levels are lower and the accuracy of the method suffers. You’re getting “ballpark” numbers back and those can be 10, 20, 30 pg/ml higher. Not much but could be the difference between a result of 30 and 60. With an inaccurate reading of 60 you’re upping your AI dose but your ACTUAL E2 level is 30 so you come close to crashing it based on an inaccurate number from your blood tests.

The LC/MS/MS is much more accurate and returns a real value. It’s sensitive enough to pick up the lower male values more precisely.
correct. always, always, always get sensitive.
Could either of you guys recommend a current mid cycle package panel on labsmd or privatemd (or any similar site)? They have added a ton of packages since the “basics of ordering bloodwork thread,” and I have looked through extensively, but the stuff I’m seeing that has e2 sensitive as well as lcms free and total test is around $130, which seems a bit high for mid cycle bloods. Thanks.
 
I must be the guy that’s full of shit. I’ve written this before on MESO...

LC/MS/MS is much more accurate than the standard ECLIA. Give it a try the next time and compare your results running the same amount of test and AI. You’re going to see different values.

The ECLIA was primarily for women and they obviously have higher E2 cause well, they’re women [emoji2369] (about 4-5x higher).

When men use the ECLIA our levels are lower and the accuracy of the method suffers. You’re getting “ballpark” numbers back and those can be 10, 20, 30 pg/ml higher. Not much but could be the difference between a result of 30 and 60. With an inaccurate reading of 60 you’re upping your AI dose but your ACTUAL E2 level is 30 so you come close to crashing it based on an inaccurate number from your blood tests.

The LC/MS/MS is much more accurate and returns a real value. It’s sensitive enough to pick up the lower male values more precisely.

When I first started on TRT 3 yrs ago I had a hell of a time regulating my E2. As do a lot of men here. Especially when we are blasting and cruising. I got my E2 regulated with the non sensitive test. It wasn’t just 1 test. It was many. When I go to my TRT to have my E2 spot checked, I betcha $10 they aren’t choosing LC/MS/MS. So...it must not be that inaccurate. My experience has shown that choosing the more sensitive test is not always needed. Just my experience. I value yours. I value your opinion too.
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So I'm getting ready to buy...just considering this source instead of my go to....but after 30 pages of bullshit posts about Kim and murder attempts vis keyboard soldiers....I've decided I'll just tap into my emergency stash for a few weeks n decide later

This source seems to be lagging. As are others. No shit talking here. Just wanna buy in peace

But the only good thing about the last 30 pages or so were a couple of big ol fat titties

I love titties

I prefer shapely titties on girls with nice bodies...not necessarily models but at least health conscious

Those titties in display were not what I like

But they were better than the trash I read about people bashing each other

We're not in highschool...no one will be prom king

Let's just focus on the goods...gear and gains
 
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