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I didn't know I can request that .
I learn something everyday.
You need more blood work than TT.
When you reorder...order
Total and Free Test...E2 sensitive using the LC/MS methodology...and at least a metabolic panel to monitor hct.
If you can add an SHBG panel.....it will tell you how fast you clear test and depending on that number you can adjust your injection protocol up or down.
More frequent smaller injections can affect E2 dramatically and may negate the use of an ai.
The HCG will promote aromitization.
 
You need more blood work than TT.
When you reorder...order
Total and Free Test...E2 sensitive using the LC/MS methodology...and at least a metabolic panel to monitor hct.
If you can add an SHBG panel.....it will tell you how fast you clear test and depending on that number you can adjust your injection protocol up or down.
More frequent smaller injections can affect E2 dramatically and may negate the use of an ai.
The HCG will promote aromitization.
I have the FT and the E but each one is on a separate page I'll post all of them My E is at 101pg/ml and FT is 43 pg , but I dont have SHBG Panel which I'll get on my next time hopefully.
Thanks for the info
 
I just found it online ,thank you guys. Ill do the uncapped test along with Estrogen and SHBG.
Uncapped test then estroidol (E2 sensitive) using lc/ms method because you cannot rely on the other e2 testing methods to be accurate....typically they deliver false high readings of e2.
At 101pg/ml, if its an
accurate number, you should be having some high e2 symptoms like emotionally sensitive to like puppy commercials or chick flicks...maybe dick issues..
I can tell when my numbers hit around 70pg/ml. by the symptoms.
Dont overkill the ai if you have it....crashed e2 is a motherfucker...and if it does not say e2 sensitive on your current labs the 101 number is not valid as a usable test result.
pull bloods again...then make changes if needed.
 
Uncapped test then estroidol (E2 sensitive) using lc/ms method because you cannot rely on the other e2 testing methods to be accurate....typically they deliver false high readings of e2.
At 101pg/ml, if its an
accurate number, you should be having some high e2 symptoms like emotionally sensitive to like puppy commercials or chick flicks...maybe dick issues..
I can tell when my numbers hit around 70pg/ml. by the symptoms.
Dont overkill the ai if you have it....crashed e2 is a motherfucker...and if it does not say e2 sensitive on your current labs the 101 number is not valid as a usable test result.
pull bloods again...then make changes if needed.
Lol , no puppy/dick issues here , but I understand what your saying, and I appreciate the advice you guys are giving me.
 
For me personally I find the sweet spot to be 250-300mg and strictly for getting my estrogen into my preferred range (relatively high but not crazy, and no use of an AI). I then prefer to use something like NPP as my primary compound in a cycle. For me sides are very minimal, bp kept below 125/80 (110/60 is baseline @225lbs on TRT).

I try to keep injectibles under a gram primarily due to using insulin needles for daily injection which generally requires 1ml barrels. Yay pincushion haha. Then if I am feeling up for doing something stupid I’ll purchase the base version of various hormones to do a 4 week “blast”. None of which I’d advise people to do. Nothing quite like 100mg test base, 100mg tren base, and 50mg halotestin pre workout. My go to cycle as example is 280 test, 525 npp, 40mg tbol. Feel great, low sides, stellar performance, minimal bloat.

As for my previous results with DHB I’d say I enjoyed it. Relatively clean gains although I strangely prefer primo. Decent strength gains as well, not say tren level but far more than say primo. You will become stupid vascular if lean enough to show, but this is problematic as discussed below. Endurance however goes through the roof. More than even EQ imho.

I’d honestly place it as somewhere in between the two, which is why I chose to run it again this cycle given my current goals. I just had to deal with getting a kidney stone blasted and the right kidney definitely isn’t in the mood for a tren cycle.

The big concern for me is cardiovascular as it honestly can make your blood like pudding. Of course a lot of that is diet related but I happen to love red meat (and maple brown sugar frosted mini wheats...by the box.....) which has to be cut back to counter act the increase. Make sure your multivitamin also isn’t one including iron.

Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to this run with DHB. The more I learn from those that have ran many cycles, and are experienced, seem to keep test lower and other compounds higher like you do. NPP, DHB, Tren.

I ran EQ last summer and donated at week 12 of the run. HCT was elevated, but not over normal range. I just donated last week again but only on trt at the moment of 150/wk.

Do you donate to keep HCT in range?
 
Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to this run with DHB. The more I learn from those that have ran many cycles, and are experienced, seem to keep test lower and other compounds higher like you do. NPP, DHB, Tren.

I ran EQ last summer and donated at week 12 of the run. HCT was elevated, but not over normal range. I just donated last week again but only on trt at the moment of 150/wk.

Do you donate to keep HCT in range?

Depends on whether or not I’m outside of reference range and by how much. If it’s just a point or two over I won’t as my body returns to its norm within a couple months. If it’s more than that, say 5 or more outside of reference, then yes I will. Everyone is different and everyone has different risk factors. If high/just outside of it would be perfectly reasonable to just go ahead and do it.

Probably will have to this cycle though. We will see.
 
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