TommyBoy
Banned
Well good thing I don't care what a bunch of strangers think hey?!?!
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)
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Q: What do you call a place where crazy fuckers come to chat while their hormones are all over the place!?
A: Meso, mother fuckers!!
I’m not sure if there’s a topic that hasn’t been discussed around here! Another reason why I like this place so much... It shows me how fucked up all y’all really are
A: Meso, mother fuckers!!
I’m not sure if there’s a topic that hasn’t been discussed around here! Another reason why I like this place so much... It shows me how fucked up all y’all really are
You excluded “in their 20s living in their mom’s basement”. Is that implying that would be ok??
I was trying to be nice due to the entitlement generations thin skin.
Amazing experience. Fast reply, 3 day turnaround. Impressive packaging. My forearm pump opening 18 layers of packaging got me looking pretty vascular so prolly g2g. But in all seriousness, nice work @SymBiotics
Broskie
Member
For the guy with concerns about lipids, besides other user recommendations, I would heavily consider adding garlic extract to your supplement regiment. I’ll go grab the studies. But a nice dose like 1-3 grams daily has an enormous measurable impact on lipid profiles.
Broskie
Member
Here are the studies I've seen.
Garlic supplementation and lipoprotein oxidation susceptibility. - PubMed - NCBI
Effect of garlic on serum lipids: an updated meta-analysis. - PubMed - NCBI
A double-blind crossover study in moderately hypercholesterolemic men that compared the effect of aged garlic extract and placebo administration on... - PubMed - NCBI
The effects of time-released garlic powder tablets on multifunctional cardiovascular risk in patients with coronary artery disease. - PubMed - NCBI
Inhibiting progression of coronary calcification using Aged Garlic Extract in patients receiving statin therapy: a preliminary study. - PubMed - NCBI
Lipid-lowering effects of time-released garlic powder tablets in double-blinded placebo-controlled randomized study. - PubMed - NCBI
Protective effect of chronic garlic intake on elastic properties of aorta in the elderly. - PubMed - NCBI
Effect of garlic and fish-oil supplementation on serum lipid and lipoprotein concentrations in hypercholesterolemic men. - PubMed - NCBI
Aged garlic extract improves adiponectin levels in subjects with metabolic syndrome: a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized, crossover study. - PubMed - NCBI
Garlic supplementation prevents oxidative DNA damage in essential hypertension. - PubMed - NCBI
On the effect of garlic on plasma lipids and lipoproteins in mild hypercholesterolaemia. - PubMed - NCBI
Dietary supplementation with aged garlic extract inhibits ADP-induced platelet aggregation in humans. - PubMed - NCBI
Effects of anethum graveolens and garlic on lipid profile in hyperlipidemic patients. - PubMed - NCBI
Effects of garlic consumption on plasma and erythrocyte antioxidant parameters in elderly subjects. - PubMed - NCBI
Broskie
Member
Notes for each study in the order they appear above.
1) Two weeks supplementation of 600mg garlic powder was able to reduce oxidation of LDL cholesterol, but it appears to be too short a duration of supplementation to affect the lipid panels in these otherwise healthy adults.
2) A meta-analysis on the influence of garlic supplementation on serum lipids has noted an 8% reduction in total cholesterol, which was said to result in a 38% reduced risk for coronary events (at age 50), there was a lesser increase in HDL-C (1.49mg/dL increase with a 95% CI of 0.19-2.79) and the reduction in LDL reached 6.41mg/dL (95% CI of a 1.05-11.77mg/dL reduction) both of which were significant but this meta-analysis failed to find a significant reduction in triglycerides although it trended towards such (5.45mg/dL reduction ranging from a 14.18 reduction to a 3.27mg/dL increase as the 95% CI)
3) 7.2g of aged garlic daily for six months in hypercholesterolemic men noted a 7% reduction in total cholesterol and 4.6% reduction in LDL-C alongside a 5.5% reduction in blood pressure.
4) 250mg Allicor (garlic powder) twice daily for one year in persons with coronary artery disease was able to significantly reduce total and LDL cholesterol relative to placebo, although the changes in HDL-C and triglycerides were rendered statistically insignificant due to beneficial changes seen in placebo.
The authors concluded a significant reduction in cardiovascular disease risk associated with garlic supplementation relative to placebo.
5) In a pilot study on persons at high risk for cardiovascular death and already on statin and aspirin therapy, further administration of 1,200mg aged garlic extract (relative to a placebo add-on) for one year reduced the progression in coronary calcium from 22% down to 7.5%. Most other parameters including RBC glutathione concentrations, were unaffected.
6) Supplementation of 600mg garlic (Allicor) in two divided doses of 300mg daily for 12 weeks in persons with high cholesterol is able to beneficially influence cholesterol and blood pressure without affecting markers of toxicology (immune and red blood cells, liver enzymes) and without any apparent effect on triglycerides.
7) In older adults who reported consumption of garlic supplements (300-900mg range, average of 460mg) over the previous two years, it was noted that garlic supplement ingestion.
PWV, a measure of aortic stiffness, was lower with garlic and the difference between groups was more notable with older participants; similar trends were noted with EVR (elastic vascular resistance) a measure of blood flow.
8) In persons with high cholesterol, 900mg garlic for 12 weeks lowered cholesterol (11.5%), LDL-C (14.2%) with a trend to reduce HDL-C; despite the subjects being normotensive, there was a small reduction in blood pressure seen with garlic (2.4-4.2%).
9) Supplementation of 1,200mg aged garlic extract daily for 12 weeks in obese persons with metabolic syndrome was able to cause a trend (nonsignificant) to reduce weight and was able to significantly increase adiponectin concentrations relative to placebo; all other glucose, cardiovascular, and inflammatory biomarkers measured were unaffected.
10) 8 weeks supplementation with garlic pearls (250mg containing 2.5% garlic oil) in persons with essential hypertension or normal controls (no placebo group) noted a reduction in blood pressure in hypertensives only. The hypertensives were also hypercholesterolemic, but all changes in cholesterol and triglycerides were nonsignificant.
Superoxide and lipid peroxidation in serum were reduced in hypertensives only, and DNA damage was significantly reduced in hypertensives and only trended to be reduced in controls.
11) When giving otherwise healthy adults garlic juice (5mL daily for 13 weeks), platelets appeared to have a reduced rate of aggregation in response to ADP (no influence on maximal aggregation level) with a nonsignificant trend to reduce Thromboxane B2. There was actually a trend to reduce triglycerides in these otherwise healthy adults (13%), but that and all other cardiovascular parameters were not significantly influenced except for a reduction in the liver enzyme ALT (20%)
12) In persons with high cholesterol over six weeks, total and LDL cholesterol were found to be reduced with twice daily supplementation of 400mg garlic (1mg allicin) by 12.1% and 17.3% respectively. The 6.3% reduction in triglycerides noted reached significance and HDL increased by 15.7%.
13) Serum lipid peroxidation was reduced by 45% in elderly subjects given garlic supplementation at 100mg/kg bodyweight (raw garlic), which was associated with an increase in the red blood cell activity of glutathione peroxidase (12%) and superoxide dismutase (24%).
1) Two weeks supplementation of 600mg garlic powder was able to reduce oxidation of LDL cholesterol, but it appears to be too short a duration of supplementation to affect the lipid panels in these otherwise healthy adults.
2) A meta-analysis on the influence of garlic supplementation on serum lipids has noted an 8% reduction in total cholesterol, which was said to result in a 38% reduced risk for coronary events (at age 50), there was a lesser increase in HDL-C (1.49mg/dL increase with a 95% CI of 0.19-2.79) and the reduction in LDL reached 6.41mg/dL (95% CI of a 1.05-11.77mg/dL reduction) both of which were significant but this meta-analysis failed to find a significant reduction in triglycerides although it trended towards such (5.45mg/dL reduction ranging from a 14.18 reduction to a 3.27mg/dL increase as the 95% CI)
3) 7.2g of aged garlic daily for six months in hypercholesterolemic men noted a 7% reduction in total cholesterol and 4.6% reduction in LDL-C alongside a 5.5% reduction in blood pressure.
4) 250mg Allicor (garlic powder) twice daily for one year in persons with coronary artery disease was able to significantly reduce total and LDL cholesterol relative to placebo, although the changes in HDL-C and triglycerides were rendered statistically insignificant due to beneficial changes seen in placebo.
The authors concluded a significant reduction in cardiovascular disease risk associated with garlic supplementation relative to placebo.
5) In a pilot study on persons at high risk for cardiovascular death and already on statin and aspirin therapy, further administration of 1,200mg aged garlic extract (relative to a placebo add-on) for one year reduced the progression in coronary calcium from 22% down to 7.5%. Most other parameters including RBC glutathione concentrations, were unaffected.
6) Supplementation of 600mg garlic (Allicor) in two divided doses of 300mg daily for 12 weeks in persons with high cholesterol is able to beneficially influence cholesterol and blood pressure without affecting markers of toxicology (immune and red blood cells, liver enzymes) and without any apparent effect on triglycerides.
7) In older adults who reported consumption of garlic supplements (300-900mg range, average of 460mg) over the previous two years, it was noted that garlic supplement ingestion.
PWV, a measure of aortic stiffness, was lower with garlic and the difference between groups was more notable with older participants; similar trends were noted with EVR (elastic vascular resistance) a measure of blood flow.
8) In persons with high cholesterol, 900mg garlic for 12 weeks lowered cholesterol (11.5%), LDL-C (14.2%) with a trend to reduce HDL-C; despite the subjects being normotensive, there was a small reduction in blood pressure seen with garlic (2.4-4.2%).
9) Supplementation of 1,200mg aged garlic extract daily for 12 weeks in obese persons with metabolic syndrome was able to cause a trend (nonsignificant) to reduce weight and was able to significantly increase adiponectin concentrations relative to placebo; all other glucose, cardiovascular, and inflammatory biomarkers measured were unaffected.
10) 8 weeks supplementation with garlic pearls (250mg containing 2.5% garlic oil) in persons with essential hypertension or normal controls (no placebo group) noted a reduction in blood pressure in hypertensives only. The hypertensives were also hypercholesterolemic, but all changes in cholesterol and triglycerides were nonsignificant.
Superoxide and lipid peroxidation in serum were reduced in hypertensives only, and DNA damage was significantly reduced in hypertensives and only trended to be reduced in controls.
11) When giving otherwise healthy adults garlic juice (5mL daily for 13 weeks), platelets appeared to have a reduced rate of aggregation in response to ADP (no influence on maximal aggregation level) with a nonsignificant trend to reduce Thromboxane B2. There was actually a trend to reduce triglycerides in these otherwise healthy adults (13%), but that and all other cardiovascular parameters were not significantly influenced except for a reduction in the liver enzyme ALT (20%)
12) In persons with high cholesterol over six weeks, total and LDL cholesterol were found to be reduced with twice daily supplementation of 400mg garlic (1mg allicin) by 12.1% and 17.3% respectively. The 6.3% reduction in triglycerides noted reached significance and HDL increased by 15.7%.
13) Serum lipid peroxidation was reduced by 45% in elderly subjects given garlic supplementation at 100mg/kg bodyweight (raw garlic), which was associated with an increase in the red blood cell activity of glutathione peroxidase (12%) and superoxide dismutase (24%).
Wow that's crazy considering the packaging
macho_mustafa
New Member
I ordered several vials of Tren A and liquid Superdrol on the weekend. TD came yesterday and the packing was a thing of beauty. All the vials were topped off nicely.
I’ve placed a couple orders with Sym recently and have encountered absolutely zero problems.
I’ve placed a couple orders with Sym recently and have encountered absolutely zero problems.
Ace and Superdrol. I see you like to party.
I am bummed I have to cut my run on Symbiotics Tren A short, but I feel like it's a waste to run it with no gym available. I have been very pleased with it so far though. I have batch 2.
Bigswampnig
New Member
Bigswampnig
New Member
Did he reply with conformation that coin has Been accepted? I just placed a order, sent coin and asked for a reply when coin has been accepted but got nothing.
Savagesteve
Well-known Member
It’s Saturday...
JC Grifter
Well-known Member
Body weight, pull up bar, those bands that connect together, a few dumbbells. Just change how you’re working out
LvnDead
Member
Wanted to update on my experience so far with primo. Has not been long enough but as far as PIP is concerned it’s very tolerable. I am getting it but not bad. Using 1.5ml twice a week. So 600mg total a week. Plan to run 16-20 weeks. Been 2 weeks so far so I know still early but wanted to give my feedback on pip. My first run with primo so will see how it goes.
JC Grifter
Well-known Member
I keep bouncing back and forth if I should get primo. I already have so much gear stocked lol. But I really want to try primo one of these days
LvnDead
Member
I debated back and forth for a while, decided to jump in and try it. Test, npp, adrol and var are my typical go to. I wrote if tren forever lol. So hoping primo makes itself as a staple. I know it won’t be like tren, but if In 16-20 weeks I can make some good quality gains that’s all tha matters lol
