SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

How many guys have infections,abscesses,or injection site lumps from Syms oils in the last 6 months?I am curious?I have bought a lot of different oils from him and have been pinning 3 times per week for 6 months with no issues.I inspected all my gear including Syms oil and all is crystal clear.I am just curious
Myself and a few guys at my gym have been using him since he came here. Smoothest gear I’ve had next to pharma.

but that means nothing on meso. You can sell 250,000 vials and 1 has a floater and it’s game over.

it’s game over for sym. He won’t be back- the piss troopers will make sure of it.
 
Myself and a few guys at my gym have been using him since he came here. Smoothest gear I’ve had next to pharma.

but that means nothing on meso. You can sell 250,000 vials and 1 has a floater and it’s game over.

it’s game over for sym. He won’t be back- the piss troopers will make sure of it.

It was more than one floater lol. But dude no one will stop you or talk you out of still ordering from him. Go for it
 
It was more than one floater lol. But dude no one will stop you or talk you out of still ordering from him. Go for it
I sure would. But, like I said, he won’t be back. He might try, but he won’t succeed....That’s just how it goes. Meso is a blessing and a curse. Sources can either make a lot of money or waste a lot of money trying. There is no middle ground.

He is going to have to rebrand on a different forum.
 
I asked the question about infection as well no to long ago, because I haven’t read one person that had any issues like that... For me it’s not worth the risk, not when there is other options.. but to the people who want to keep buying from him, no one can stop you from doing that, I am completely positive he isn’t going to turn down orders when he opens back up. Everyone has the info to make their own informed decision, which imo is point of MESO and why I like it here.
 
Another update. I spoke to Sym about the reship that is on its way and found out it was from the orignial product like some people here suggested. Kind of a bummer knowing some people got to choose to wait for "new batches and vials" had I known that was an option I would have went that route. Meh
 
I asked the question about infection as well no to long ago, because I haven’t read one person that had any issues like that... For me it’s not worth the risk, not when there is other options.. but to the people who want to keep buying from him, no one can stop you from doing that, I am completely positive he isn’t going to turn down orders when he opens back up. Everyone has the info to make their own informed decision, which imo is point of MESO and why I like it here.

Here is what will happen. He will come back with a lengthy explanation. 56 people who I am certain must be unemployed will neg his ass into an oblivion. Any person who goes against that grain will get negged Into an oblivion as well.

When it comes to this game all you really have is street cred and in this instance it’s all right here in this single thread. People will see to it that street cred is tarnished, people will follow the crowd and there goes his customer base.

personally , I’ve been around far too long and I don’t give 2 fucks . I know what’s what and I’ll buy what I want. But I doubt sym will survive with 1 customer.
 
Here is what will happen. He will come back with a lengthy explanation. 56 people who I am certain must be unemployed will neg his ass into an oblivion. Any person who goes against that grain will get negged Into an oblivion as well.

When it comes to this game all you really have is street cred and in this instance it’s all right here in this single thread. People will see to it that street cred is tarnished, people will follow the crowd and there goes his customer base.

You just made 56 “unemployed” enemies too by the way, which is a real bitch move to make on MESO. Enjoy your gear. Order with confidence. Sorry guys, but Jack here wants it to be every man for themselves at MESO. Oh well if you’re inexperienced or new or if you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing. Sources here are a-ok.

Jack wants it both ways though. He quietly sits on your hands while vetting occurs and then when word gets around that a good lab is here he jumps on their lap.

Hey Jack, where were you when these guys were all wondering if their gear is ok? You were posting “it’s fine, everything will be fine, Sym’s gear is fine.” At least I gave them a viable safe solution of refiltering their gear.

Whether Sym wants to continue sourcing here is entirely up to him. He had an opportunity to right his ship with a “kick-ass proposal” and instead he took the easier way out. His proposal for moving forward was half-assed. And now he’s not bothering to publicly update “got half the guys taken care of” so @justanoob had no idea he could simply wait for new product as a replacement rather than accepting existing product that has been eyeballed for floaters.
 
You just made 56 “unemployed” enemies too by the way, which is a real bitch move to make on MESO. Enjoy your gear. Order with confidence. Sorry guys, but Jack here wants it to be every man for themselves at MESO. Oh well if you’re inexperienced or new or if you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing. Sources here are a-ok.

Jack wants it both ways though. He quietly sits on your hands while vetting occurs and then when word gets around that a good lab is here he jumps on their lap.

Hey Jack, where were you when these guys were all wondering if their gear is ok? You were posting “it’s fine, everything will be fine, Sym’s gear is fine.” At least I gave them a viable safe solution of refiltering their gear.

Whether Sym wants to continue sourcing here is entirely up to him. He had an opportunity to right his ship with a “kick-ass proposal” and instead he took the easier way out. His proposal for moving forward was half-assed. And now he’s not bothering to publicly update “got half the guys taken care of” so @justanoob had no idea he could simply wait for new product as a replacement rather than accepting existing product that has been eyeballed for floaters.
I wish I could have given this Two likes
 
You just made 56 “unemployed” enemies too by the way, which is a real bitch move to make on MESO. Enjoy your gear. Order with confidence. Sorry guys, but Jack here wants it to be every man for themselves at MESO. Oh well if you’re inexperienced or new or if you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing. Sources here are a-ok.

Jack wants it both ways though. He quietly sits on your hands while vetting occurs and then when word gets around that a good lab is here he jumps on their lap.

Hey Jack, where were you when these guys were all wondering if their gear is ok? You were posting “it’s fine, everything will be fine, Sym’s gear is fine.” At least I gave them a viable safe solution of refiltering their gear.

Whether Sym wants to continue sourcing here is entirely up to him. He had an opportunity to right his ship with a “kick-ass proposal” and instead he took the easier way out. His proposal for moving forward was half-assed. And now he’s not bothering to publicly update “got half the guys taken care of” so @justanoob had no idea he could simply wait for new product as a replacement rather than accepting existing product that has been eyeballed for floaters.
Like I said, I can give 2 fucks. I’ve been using gear since you were just a fuck stain that leaked out of your mothers crack.

I’ve survived Brutus , CBS and all the other ego centric chest thumpers. Fuck em all!

here is a fact - with the exception of hammer anabolics (he went bad overnight) I’ve never once made a bad buy. Always get clean clean gear with fast TA. Always have and always will. Never been burned, never even shot gear that gave me pip, let alone an infection.

I think sym deserves another chance. That’s my opinion. Nobody has to agree but I’m saying in advance, because I don’t have time to read threads all day, if you disrespect my opinion, you can fuck right off. You can save your 8 paragraph posts - I don’t read them.
 
Another update. I spoke to Sym about the reship that is on its way and found out it was from the orignial product like some people here suggested. Kind of a bummer knowing some people got to choose to wait for "new batches and vials" had I known that was an option I would have went that route. Meh

He was actually sold out of the product so it was not a conscious choice. Just thought I should add that.

Hopefully everyone gets things resolved to their satisfaction. From my conversations with him I believe he intends to do that.
 
Like I said, I can give 2 fucks. I’ve been using gear since you were just a fuck stain that leaked out of your mothers crack.

Clearly you must know a lot. That’s a long time since I’m 45 years old. With all that experience it’d be nice if you contributed advice that helped people every so often.

if you disrespect my opinion, you can fuck right off.

We better respect your opinion then. [emoji2][emoji106]

You can save your 8 paragraph posts - I don’t read them.

But you don’t respect my opinion. [emoji17][emoji107]
 
You just made 56 “unemployed” enemies too by the way, which is a real bitch move to make on MESO. Enjoy your gear. Order with confidence. Sorry guys, but Jack here wants it to be every man for themselves at MESO. Oh well if you’re inexperienced or new or if you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing. Sources here are a-ok.

Jack wants it both ways though. He quietly sits on your hands while vetting occurs and then when word gets around that a good lab is here he jumps on their lap.

Hey Jack, where were you when these guys were all wondering if their gear is ok? You were posting “it’s fine, everything will be fine, Sym’s gear is fine.” At least I gave them a viable safe solution of refiltering their gear.

Whether Sym wants to continue sourcing here is entirely up to him. He had an opportunity to right his ship with a “kick-ass proposal” and instead he took the easier way out. His proposal for moving forward was half-assed. And now he’s not bothering to publicly update “got half the guys taken care of” so @justanoob had no idea he could simply wait for new product as a replacement rather than accepting existing product that has been eyeballed for floaters.

I do appreciate what you do for our forum. Also, I stand with you typically. However, I do think Sym deserves another chance. Until this issue he had been damn near perfect. I dont think a ug source can get any better.
 
Here is what will happen. He will come back with a lengthy explanation. 56 people who I am certain must be unemployed will neg his ass into an oblivion. Any person who goes against that grain will get negged Into an oblivion as well.

When it comes to this game all you really have is street cred and in this instance it’s all right here in this single thread. People will see to it that street cred is tarnished, people will follow the crowd and there goes his customer base.

personally , I’ve been around far too long and I don’t give 2 fucks . I know what’s what and I’ll buy what I want. But I doubt sym will survive with 1 customer.

Yeah? And what has he done for damage control? He hasn’t been on the forum, or made a single post in the past week. I haven’t heard of a single person receiving their new and improved sym-antibiotics replacement care package. How long does it take to log on and say

“Hey y’all, I’m backed up with getting things operational again, but I’m still here.”

Probably less time than it takes you to defend him.
 
I do appreciate what you do for our forum. Also, I stand with you typically. However, I do think Sym deserves another chance. Until this issue he had been damn near perfect. I dont think a ug source can get any better.

Do you realize he hasn’t logged on in an entire week? A short follow up post would be sufficient occasionally.

Pristine and Assquatch did the same shit
 
I do appreciate what you do for our forum. Also, I stand with you typically. However, I do think Sym deserves another chance. Until this issue he had been damn near perfect. I dont think a ug source can get any better.

I understand what you’re saying. I do. I even understood what @jackmeoff1 was pointing out. And I was definitely willing to give him a second chance. When this happened I posted he should take a couple days to figure out what went wrong and to come back with a kick-ass proposal for moving forward. He took the couple days but came back with a half-ass solution. He has since modified that since we all voiced our concerns.

I don’t want to see a once decent source limp along on name alone. That’s happened here countless times.

I wanted to see entire ownership of what looks to be a widespread problem with dirty vials. He’s apparently correcting it with customers but it’s behind closed doors and that is the opposite of the transparency we request of sources on MESO.

He was barely on MESO before this happened, and now when his business is burning he can’t be bothered to post an update on how things are coming. It’s easier to answer individual emails. Less is requested by those guys and they remain oblivious to the deals other guys are offered. MESO is a community and Sym is preferring to deal with individuals. That’s not how we do things here.

I made it less than 8 paragraphs so @jackmeoff1 might read it. [emoji2369]
 
I do appreciate what you do for our forum. Also, I stand with you typically. However, I do think Sym deserves another chance. Until this issue he had been damn near perfect. I dont think a ug source can get any better.
There has been sources on meso get in the game, run a perfect track record (to my knowledge), and get out the game with no issues. I’m referring to POTG and 24k.
 
Do you realize he hasn’t logged on in an entire week? A short follow up post would be sufficient occasionally.

Pristine and Assquatch did the same shit

I may eat my words brother, and if I do I will learn a lesson. We are all on the same team. We just slightly see this problem differently.
 
I may eat my words brother, and if I do I will learn a lesson. We are all on the same team. We just slightly see this problem differently.

When you have an issue with a service and contact customer care, do you want to wait a week for a reply? I think people want communication, they want to know they’re being made whole, and they want that reassurance.
 
I understand what you’re saying. I do. I even understood what @jackmeoff1 was pointing out. And I was definitely willing to give him a second chance. When this happened I posted he should take a couple days to figure out what went wrong and to come back with a kick-ass proposal for moving forward. He took the couple days but came back with a half-ass solution. He has since modified that since we all voiced our concerns.

I don’t want to see a once decent source limp along on name alone. That’s happened here countless times.

I wanted to see entire ownership of what looks to be a widespread problem with dirty vials. He’s apparently correcting it with customers but it’s behind closed doors and that is the opposite of the transparency we request of sources on MESO.

He was barely on MESO before this happened, and now when his business is burning he can’t be bothered to post an update on how things are coming. It’s easier to answer individual emails. Less is requested by those guys and they remain oblivious to the deals other guys are offered. MESO is a community and Sym is preferring to deal with individuals. That’s not how we do things here.

I made it less than 8 paragraphs so @jackmeoff1 might read it. [emoji2369]

I apologize for my post/ "update". It was probably out of line. It is obviously far better to hear from Sym my only thought process was that it was better than nothing.

I think your post initially about the steps Sym needed to take which Sym even agreed with was very on point. Unfortunately it got buried beneath 10 pages of Dianabol No pussy van boy and clenbuterol clit sucker arguing with each other.

Hopefully Sym will chime in so its not rumors or individual accounts and the thread can remain more focused and everyone can get taken care of.
 
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