SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Lol. The savior Sym “doesn’t have anything to say so he’s not going to post until he has something to say... blah blah uppity blah...”

Meanwhile not only did the thread turn to shit but he’s got guys sworn off of buying UGL gear ever again.

That’s great @SymBiotics. Feel free to come back. I think you might have about two remaining customers by the end of this hiatus.
 
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Just curious what’s circle in those pics? Is it debris or what. It just looks like air bubbles.

its debris. I see the bubbles, which by the way, at first i thought my filters were bunk because my filtered gear started looking cloudy... then i realized it was verrrrry tiiiiiiiny bubbles so i let sit for a minute and all is looking well.

@limitphobic - how long did it take you to refilter that one vial?

i did 4 12ml vials in roughly 2 hours including breaks to let my hand uncramp and shit

also - what would you consider “pharma” grade - would an outfit like Pharmacom fit that bill?

albeit ive used pharmacom test 300 e with nice results, i mean pharma like FDA-certified pharmaceuticals.
 
Yea Pharmacom is FAR from pharma and biggest fraud going imo... I know people like them and if they are right for you great but I also many people have gotten fake or underdosed crap from them.. they have recent underdosed testing online as well.
If you have any type of pharma or legitimate medical names in your name and you’re a UGL you’re a scam and you should probably stay far far away.
 
If you have any type of pharma or legitimate medical names in your name and you’re a UGL you’re a scam and you should probably stay far far away.

well I can’t co-sign on that I’ve known many ugl that had the word Pharma in their name and had good gear... and I’ve had good gear from Pharmacom but I’ve also had shit.. and they act like they are the end all be all and it’s comical
 
well I can’t co-sign on that I’ve known many ugl that had the word Pharma in their name and had good gear... and I’ve had good gear from Pharmacom but I’ve also had shit.. and they act like they are the end all be all and it’s comical
They’re using the word pharma to add legitimacy to themselves. I’m a big believer in product transparency which includes letting people know what type of set up they have going and letting the product speak for itself.

A lot of them pretend to be pharma grade even down to the packaging. I’m not saying they don’t make good products but pretending to be a legitimate pharma grade organization is just shady to me.
 
They’re using the word pharma to add legitimacy to themselves. I’m a big believer in product transparency which includes letting people know what type of set up they have going and letting the product speak for itself.

A lot of them pretend to be pharma grade even down to the packaging. I’m not saying they don’t make good products but pretending to be a legitimate pharma grade organization is just shady to me.

I can respect that.. I’m running two ugls currently with pharma in name both of which are UGls .. alpha and sigma but honestly as long as my gear is dosed properly I don’t care what they call themselves.. but I do respect where you are coming from and when it’s your money you can use whatever logic you want to make a purchase.
 
I can respect that.. I’m running two ugls currently with pharma in name both of which are UGls .. alpha and sigma but honestly as long as my gear is dosed properly I don’t care what they call themselves.. but I do respect where you are coming from and when it’s your money you can use whatever logic you want to make a purchase.
How has sigma been? I’ve been trying to find testing or blood work for them with no real luck
 
Yea Pharmacom is FAR from pharma and biggest fraud going imo... I know people like them and if they are right for you great but I also many people have gotten fake or underdosed crap from them.. they have recent underdosed testing online as well.

The actual pharmacom brand gear has under dosed testing? Or the faked counterfeited brand had under dosed testing? Cause I had some stuff while back that was counterfeit
 
I can respect that.. I’m running two ugls currently with pharma in name both of which are UGls .. alpha and sigma but honestly as long as my gear is dosed properly I don’t care what they call themselves.. but I do respect where you are coming from and when it’s your money you can use whatever logic you want to make a purchase.
I also agree with you about all I care about is legitimate gear. Clean and sterile, properly dosed we good to go baby.

damn shady advertising...
 
The actual pharmacom brand gear has under dosed testing? Or the faked counterfeited brand had under dosed testing? Cause I had some stuff while back that was counterfeit

The tests I saw were on wikilabs and I think someone posted them as well on the Pharmacom thread. All I can speak to is I’ve purchased from them and received bunk.. and I’m not the only one if you read you will come across members who have been here for a very long time some very respected ones, with similar experiences.
 
Yea Pharmacom is FAR from pharma and biggest fraud going imo... I know people like them and if they are right for you great but I also many people have gotten fake or underdosed crap from them.. they have recent underdosed testing online as well.
could you point me in the direction of said underdosed tests?
 
I also agree with you about all I care about is legitimate gear. Clean and sterile, properly dosed we good to go baby.

damn shady advertising...
That’s the problem, finding legit UGL gear can be tricky. I read a study a few weeks back where people from the DEA bought and tested gear bought from different places online, around 36% game back as completely bunk or underdosed. It’s a tricky “business” at times
 
That’s the problem, finding legit UGL gear can be tricky. I read a study a few weeks back where people from the DEA bought and tested gear bought from different places online, around 36% game back as completely bunk or underdosed. It’s a tricky “business” at times

Thats why testing especially member testing is so important. That is the only true way to know. Thankfully Meso helps to weed that down considerably as sources are run the fuck out if they dont have it to start.

Not having it just shows they know they have a shit product or they have no idea to run a business since they "dont have funds" to afford it.
 
The tests I saw were on wikilabs and I think someone posted them as well on the Pharmacom thread. All I can speak to is I’ve purchased from them and received bunk.. and I’m not the only one if you read you will come across members who have been here for a very long time some very respected ones, with similar experiences.
I'm one of them. Bought 3 bottles of test e for trt. First one was good. The second one I opened wasnt good, within 2 weeks after opening it was obviously bunk. Moved on to the 3rd bottle and guess what I was back to normal within a couple weeks. First and last time I ever bought shit from them. Unfortunately I bought into the hype and suffered because of it. As a matter of fact I've never bought another thing from a big UGL internationally again. I figured why pay a ransoms price for some shit I gotta wait a month to get ahold of only to run into the same problems I can have domestically for one third of the price?
 
That’s the problem, finding legit UGL gear can be tricky. I read a study a few weeks back where people from the DEA bought and tested gear bought from different places online, around 36% game back as completely bunk or underdosed. It’s a tricky “business” at times
God bless that dark net gear!
 
could you point me in the direction of said underdosed tests?

Pharmacom Lab Tests

I will post some lab tests from Wikibolics, all recent tests, I can also give details of all gear tested if needed (Manufacturing date, Expiry date and Batch no.).

All lab tests are underdosed.


As you said: Deviations within +/- 10% from concentration stated on the label are permissible. Therefore, if the product in question is found to be within +/- 10% of Pharmacom’s advertised concentration it is considered a positive good result.

Primo 100 mg/ml
Results: 60.02 mg

Test P 100 mg/ml
R: 95.01 mg

Win tabs 10 mg/tab
R: 9.02 mg

tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 103.92 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 104.47 mg

Oxymetos 25 mg/tab
R: 23.58 mg

Test C 200 mg/ml
R: 150.81 mg

masteron P 100 mg/ml
R: 56.15 mg

Test E 250 mg/ml
R: 204 mg

Oxandrolonos 10 mg/tab
R: 8.55 mg

Bold 300 mg/ml
R: 292.22 mg

Dianabolos 10 mg/tab
R: 9.34 mg

Winstrol inj 50 mg/ml
R: 49.31 mg

Sust 300 mg/ml
R: 261.47 mg
Details of sustanon lab test:
Test Propionate 36 mg/ ml R: 31.55 mg
Test Phenyl Propionte 72 mg/ml R: 61.62 mg
Test Isocaproate 72 mg/ml R: 63.48 mg
Test Decanoate 120 mg/ml R 104.82 mg
 
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