SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Last we spoke was 7 days ago, we didn't quite reach an arrangement, but we were pretty close.
I usually get replies on Mondays so we will see. Once its thursday I know I wont hear until the following week.

An agreement was made between us, but nothing concrete has happened yet. It’s been about 4-5 days since our agreement was made “official” so time will tell. I’ll update when all is made right with me

This is what’s got me worried more than anything else.

We’ve said all along here “mistakes happen, it’s how the source deals with the mistakes that’s important”.

This is also why we asked that @SymBiotics be a little active in this thread to give updates, even if it’s something stupid like “my new vials still haven’t arrived yet.” That way we know there’s still proof of life.

I would hate to see someone that feels strongly enough to put the Jesus fish on his label turn out to be a thief that leaves guys hanging.
 
This is what’s got me worried more than anything else.

We’ve said all along here “mistakes happen, it’s how the source deals with the mistakes that’s important”.

This is also why we asked that @SymBiotics be a little active in this thread to give updates, even if it’s something stupid like “my new vials still haven’t arrived yet.” That way we know there’s still proof of life.

I would hate to see someone that feels strongly enough to put the Jesus fish on his label turn out to be a thief that leaves guys hanging.

I’d hope he’s going to uphold his word and not allow greed to be his determining factor. Everyone knows the biblical story of Judas.
 
This is what’s got me worried more than anything else.

We’ve said all along here “mistakes happen, it’s how the source deals with the mistakes that’s important”.

This is also why we asked that @SymBiotics be a little active in this thread to give updates, even if it’s something stupid like “my new vials still haven’t arrived yet.” That way we know there’s still proof of life.

I would hate to see someone that feels strongly enough to put the Jesus fish on his label turn out to be a thief that leaves guys hanging.

If I loss a lot of money, with containment’s in my
vials and not get compensated for it, regardless in clean vials (your choice to trust to use them). As a refund, it’s kinda like asking for trouble going back and forth with transfer of money, cough cough, in this game. My issue would have been that I lost a lot of money more or less, and the time spent dealing with the problem with shipment and everything with the reshipped vials. None the less, I view it as a hiccup for sure getting contaminated vials. I was lucky, I spend a decent penny, I inspected my vials, and they are crystal. None the less I’m pinning ese’s gear. I have been.. (my choice).. If I were to get some contaminated vials with the dough I spent, id be sour for sure and see what Sym could do.
 
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This is definitely not the right place to ask this question.....but this thread is all over the place right now anyway. For people that get their gear tested, do you use Janoshik? Looking under the testing section, if honestly looks like a good amount of members here don’t trust the dude. Does he lie about results or purity? Mainly asking because for 1. I would like to get a tests done on a product and 2. I was viewing another forum and found a source that looks decent, his order list has a link to all the purity test and all come from Jano. Hearing mixed things on jano makes me skeptical. Anyone have any personal experiences?
 
1F1D45F8-5E7A-4FF6-9338-E4C40457A161.jpeg 74436CF2-C189-4135-8892-B598018E4826.jpeg My reship landed. I’m embarrassed to even write this but unfortunately the Test Cyp still had a black floater in it. This is kind of on me as, I got a reship before any changes were made on his end. Sad, but this ends my entire relationship with him as a trusted source. I have not reached out to him because I’m just over it and don’t want anything. Do it once; okay shit happens. Do it twice? You’re careless or blind, and leads me to believe you haven’t looked through your entire inventory or tracked down the issue to begin with.

This time it was in lot #TC006M. Definitely not the label as it’s moving (although there was also something on the label but that’s not an issue). Just going to refilter and move on with my own raws. Lesson learned. On me. Please double and triple check your shit if you have packs being re-sent.
 
View attachment 133883 View attachment 133882 My reship landed. I’m embarrassed to even write this but unfortunately the Test Cyp still had a black floater in it. This is kind of on me as, I got a reship before any changes were made on his end. Sad, but this ends my entire relationship with him as a trusted source. I have not reached out to him because I’m just over it and don’t want anything. Do it once; okay shit happens. Do it twice? You’re careless or blind, and leads me to believe you haven’t looked through your entire inventory or tracked down the issue to begin with.

This time it was in lot #TC006M. Definitely not the label as it’s moving (although there was also something on the label but that’s not an issue). Just going to refilter and move on with my own raws. Lesson learned. On me. Please double and triple check your shit if you have packs being re-sent.

Damn
 
This is what’s got me worried more than anything else.

We’ve said all along here “mistakes happen, it’s how the source deals with the mistakes that’s important”.

This is also why we asked that @SymBiotics be a little active in this thread to give updates, even if it’s something stupid like “my new vials still haven’t arrived yet.” That way we know there’s still proof of life.

I would hate to see someone that feels strongly enough to put the Jesus fish on his label turn out to be a thief that leaves guys hanging.
Yeah you would think he would pop in at least once a day to let everyone know he's still here just in good faith. I think he knows his ship has sunk here but he still had a lot of money tied up just in raws alone. Look for him to rebrand or peddle his wares elsewhere.
 
View attachment 133883 View attachment 133882 My reship landed. I’m embarrassed to even write this but unfortunately the Test Cyp still had a black floater in it. This is kind of on me as, I got a reship before any changes were made on his end. Sad, but this ends my entire relationship with him as a trusted source. I have not reached out to him because I’m just over it and don’t want anything. Do it once; okay shit happens. Do it twice? You’re careless or blind, and leads me to believe you haven’t looked through your entire inventory or tracked down the issue to begin with.

This time it was in lot #TC006M. Definitely not the label as it’s moving (although there was also something on the label but that’s not an issue). Just going to refilter and move on with my own raws. Lesson learned. On me. Please double and triple check your shit if you have packs being re-sent.

This is what I’m most disappointed to see.

@SymBiotics you are not welcome back here at MESO. You fucked up and you had a chance to make it right, but it’s still fucked up. You were supposed to take care of these guys.

Feel free to try and continue to source here but I’ll be camping out with a few of my friends in here. We’re like deadbeats but we’re going to remind people of your multiple fuckups.

Move the couch in guys.
 
View attachment 133883 View attachment 133882 My reship landed. I’m embarrassed to even write this but unfortunately the Test Cyp still had a black floater in it. This is kind of on me as, I got a reship before any changes were made on his end. Sad, but this ends my entire relationship with him as a trusted source. I have not reached out to him because I’m just over it and don’t want anything. Do it once; okay shit happens. Do it twice? You’re careless or blind, and leads me to believe you haven’t looked through your entire inventory or tracked down the issue to begin with.

This time it was in lot #TC006M. Definitely not the label as it’s moving (although there was also something on the label but that’s not an issue). Just going to refilter and move on with my own raws. Lesson learned. On me. Please double and triple check your shit if you have packs being re-sent.

Welp that’s a wrap.
 
“It was fun while it lasted” should be embossed in every vial of UGL gear that’s sent out from every lab everywhere on the entire planet of earth.
 
Before I go any further: PLEASE DO NOT INJECT ANY PRODUCT THAT HAS VISIBLE SOLID MATTER CONTAMINANT.

I tell myself that I inspect every vial that I ship; but it is evident that I am doing a poor job of this.

I will not be able to accept orders until I inspect every vial again. I believe I will use a blacklight too to see if it helps.

I have decided that I will discard my injectable products and begin anew with the presterilized vials.
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@SymBiotics, you're basically saying to your customers, eat a fucking dick, I'm not inspecting shit, you'll get floaters and youll like it. It's like getting a blonde hair in your Five Guys burger, returning it and getting a brown hair in the next one. Well done, Sym! Nailed it.
 
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@SymBiotics, you're basically saying to your customers, eat a fucking dick, I'm not inspecting shit, you'll get floaters and youll like it. It's like getting a blonde hair in your Five Guys burger, returning it and getting a brown hair in the next one. Well done, Sym! Nailed it.

the arrows pointing to the bottom I believe are just scratches on the vial, and a cat hair from my own reflecting. The actual floater is that black spec.
 
I've got nothing to say that i havent already said.

He at first acted like this was a one time slip up cause he was tired that night and couldnt see. Then it blew up and turned into a flood of floaters all the way back to shit delivered in March. He is a liar and doesnt give two fucks about the customer which is why I take offense to him using his Christian faith as a merit for credibility, it gives the rest of us Christians a bad rap. Can the righteous act pack it up and do whatever it is you're gonna do cause as I see it you're already a couple weeks late cause the meso members of old would have run your ass out of here after the 78th floater for sure
 
My pack was initial supposed to be delivered already, but it changed to ETA unknown and has been “stuck in transit for a few days” . I will update here when it arrives

USPS and all other couriers have been like that. Apparently they are so overwhelmed some of the mail doesn't get scanned in for updating from what I was told.
 
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