SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Long time lurker, 1st time poster, just wanted to chime in on these.
but then someone made a post warning about sterilized bottles that arent really sterilized from amazon.
Amazon is just the reseller. Have a buddy that’s been using the generic blue topped vials from Amazon for years for some gear he got in “satchets”. No infections or problems from them, and they are the cheapest with caps available still today. Made in India I believe.
 
Time to show him the door.. his words “tell me to leave and I will leave” well I think it’s that time.. he handled this like SHIT... even if he replaced with the best gear ever brewed the way he handled the situation acting cocky and to good in his posts... baffled that people were coming at him... imo this thread should be left for dead.. I wouldn’t pin his gear for free even if it did have visible floaters.. he can’t b trusted to send replacements with easily visible floaters.. I mean there’s other places to buy this stuff .. I can’t think of even one reason anyone would do business with him at this point.. I say tell him to shove his new vials up his ass.
 
You can call him out 1,000 times. He hasn’t even logged on since last Friday. So besides not posting, he can’t even be bothered to READ this thread.
You can be sure he's following along. Alternate handles are not an issue with the Powers That Be here at Meso. Other boards will call the member out and make known who's doing what.
I'm thinking he's sending out the contaminated replacements so he can say he did what he said he was going to do believing he'll avoid the "Scammer" label.
The ego is a powerful thing. He enjoyed the feeling when he was on top here. He's attempting to keep the dream alive

We saw Stan, who has easily 10 times the amount of experience that this guy has, start going down hill when TGI got cracked and sales spiked.
Its hard for me to impress upon guys running ugl's how an increase in sales of 25% can throw a wrench into things.

These ugl's believe its what they want...to gain popularity and see an increase in sales. They would be better off with just a steady stream of customers.
They aren't ready for the onslaught.
Between prepping to brew an amount of gear they've never brewed before...doing the math with larger amounts of raws and solvents. To the amount of time needed to fill vials and crimp and then again with the math for his orals with how much filler to add and then the time consuming task of capping its chaos in the "Lab" basement.

A year and 2 ago it was even worse. Guys running these labs never thought they would be sick and tired of getting paid.
These guys, on meso anyway, are making bitcoin the main(if not the only option) method of payment. Other sources on other boards are finally offering crypto as an option but its the least used option.

Its what flat out destroys any OPSEC a ugl had hoped to have in place.
They start making exceptions in order to make a sale and keep a customer.
Its exhausting..mostly mentally...chasing multiple hundred dollar bills all around whatever County a ugl is located. Walmart 2 Walmart has limits as far as dollar amounts and the # of transactions a person is allowed to pick up each month.
Nothing like standing in line for 25 minutes only to be turned away by a Walmart employee for any # of reasons.
These ugl's start having to expose themselves looking for receivers willing to have $$ sent in their name for a fee.
Nothing is easy. Crypto has seemingly solved what was killing a lot of ugl's.
I'm not an expert on crypto security and what the pitfalls or potential pitfalls are linked to using crypto to accept payment? I know there are steps to take to make a payment more difficult to link guys to it...but I hear people say more and more that nothing is 100% anonymous.

Its a fact that the feds/LE make countless purchases on the Deep Web fishing and looking for openings and mistakes that will expose dealers and allow busts to happen..and we know they happen.
With ugl's out in the open thumbing their noses at LE...and thats how LE perceives dealing out in the open like is being done in The Underground as arrogance...I can see LE doing as they do on the Deep Web.

When the 2 rats from ASF made their way to meso using different user names than the ones they used at ASF, they did so as informants looking to satisfy their agreements with LE that kept them out of prison and on the streets and on our forum. Ninjaturtle007 made multiple purchases from multiple sources here before being exposed as the piece of shit that he is. I believe LE was looking for sources with weak OPSEC in order to make a bust.
That low down no good cock sucking bottom feeder, bigmills aka @Cakedup looking for a buyer and then someone to GIVE his high volume capping machine to was fishing as well.

Fucking cakedup and others felt that because what he was trying to unload on somebody...ANYBODY...was not an illegal press that he was vindicated and in the clear? How's that?
Someone wanting the machine he was hustling would be wanting one to cap a large # for distribution. He wanted to get cozy with a source. Or a person who would possibly start capping for multiple sources. How is this not clear and how can staff and members allow a shady fucker who has skated from every bust he's been involved in to mingle and get close to sources once again?
ASF, which is owned by a cooperating defendant, is allowing its membership to be lulled into a false sense of security by allowing a known cooperating defendant blend in with regular members. If we know anything about the feds its that they are a patient lot. Building cases is what they do.
 
I actually think Sym is very intelligent... but fucking lazy. (Based off his lab cleanliness)

He HAS TO know these guys will catch him.

MSG and BBBG are the fucking kings of crushing rebrands

He’d have to send off new samples for testing to make sure they’re not identifiable, he’d need to rebrand, change his labels, filter his gear, then hope no one notices that he’s shipping from a similar location. I don’t see him just giving up on offloading his stock, if he in fact has as much as he’s said.

He’s gonna have a tough time not getting caught
 
He’d have to send off new samples for testing to make sure they’re not identifiable, he’d need to rebrand, change his labels, filter his gear, then hope no one notices that he’s shipping from a similar location. I don’t see him just giving up on offloading his stock, if he in fact has as much as he’s said.

That's true
I'm willing to bet he goes to a paid board.
Where he doesn't have to post lab pics, these guys will be able to snipe his setup and equipment from a mile out.

Let's face it... even being a dirty fuck... he still crushes paid sources
 
That's true
I'm willing to bet he goes to a paid board.
Where he doesn't have to post lab pics, these guys will be able to snipe his setup and equipment from a mile out.

Let's face it... even being a dirty fuck... he still crushes paid sources

I’m going to say he’s gonna pull the old Assquatch and make it over to SST. Just my speculation
 
He’s going to sit on his hands for a couple months and then make a return. He’s patient.

Look at when he created his handle, he had W&M test his products, and then he waited 5 months to source originally. He’s not going anywhere else.

I’ve noticed a lot less source attempts since TGI
 
I’ve noticed a lot less source attempts since TGI

You missed a few when you weren’t on. There was a bunch of obviously retarded attempts. Seemed like the same college kid. Then there was Big Bear who made maybe 3 sales in the 4 months that he refused to leave. The guy would have done fine but he was a pathological liar.

Most stubbornly refuse to post photos of their setup. Then 3/4 are too lazy to have their product tested. They get blown out of here right away.

Vetting is organized right now. We’re not just beating on the guy, it’s actual real questions and it drives the amateur sources away.

There will always be sources. Especially when one disappears. There’s too much bitcoins to be made.
 
You missed a few when you weren’t on. There was a bunch of obviously retarded attempts. Seemed like the same college kid. Then there was Big Bear who made maybe 3 sales in the 4 months that he refused to leave. The guy would have done fine but he was a pathological liar.

Most stubbornly refuse to post photos of their setup. Then 3/4 are too lazy to have their product tested. They get blown out of here right away.

Vetting is organized right now. We’re not just beating on the guy, it’s actual real questions and it drives the amateur sources away.

There will always be sources. Especially when one disappears. There’s too much bitcoins to be made.

I was wondering if the “pandemic” and shipping raws had everyone waiting for it to all blow over
 
My bet is that he comes back with a reasonable response explaining what he has done to this point. Then, he lays out the plan to continue business. From there, he knows its up to how Meso responds. If we allow him a reasonable pathway to doing business here again, I believe he will give it a go. If he doesn't feel like he can oblige by our terms, then he is okay to cease business here.
 
My bet is that he comes back with a reasonable response explaining what he has done to this point. Then, he lays out the plan to continue business. From there, he knows its up to how Meso responds. If we allow him a reasonable pathway to doing business here again, I believe he will give it a go. If he doesn't feel like he can oblige by our terms, then he is okay to cease business here.

He is ceasing business here. He decided that when he replaced floater product with floater product. That was his nail in the coffin moment.
 
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