I just hope you’re using that drive in service of a legacy beyond just your physique.Very possible, though natural I had the same mind set, maybe I had excess male hormone to begin with that causes this "mind set"
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I just hope you’re using that drive in service of a legacy beyond just your physique.Very possible, though natural I had the same mind set, maybe I had excess male hormone to begin with that causes this "mind set"
Good stuffDid this forum just say that masculinity is toxic? Woah.
The mindset isn’t hormonal. You either have this or you don’t. Drugs is an easy one. Are pro athletes not as careless as @tengtren? Football players reduce the longevity of their lives and contribute towards inducing chronic injuries every week.
Past saying “woah man,” there’s nothing to be done AND it isn’t exclusive to the bodybuilding/gear world.
That’s far from what I was saying. I was saying I admire it. In fact I think the masculine approach would be to think objectively about the pros and cons as they’re presented instead of being swept up in the romanticism of riding off into the sunset.Did this forum just say that masculinity is toxic? Woah.
The mindset isn’t hormonal. You either have this or you don’t. Drugs is an easy one. Are pro athletes not as careless as @tengtren? Football players reduce the longevity of their lives and contribute towards inducing chronic injuries every week.
Past saying “woah man,” there’s nothing to be done AND it isn’t exclusive to the bodybuilding/gear world.
Some people will say that having a family, house, and job is all you need to be successful. Others will say being rich, famous, and having power make you successful. The word itself is subjective.the question than becomes how do you define success, and being above average, don't think you have to risk your health or lifespan to do that
Yeah was mostly joking about the masculinity thing.That’s far from what I was saying. I was saying I admire it. In fact I think the masculine approach would be to think objectively about the pros and cons as they’re presented instead of being swept up in the romanticism of riding off into the sunset.
To say cruising on a gram and a half of test a week wouldn’t have a significant impact on your mindset is a bit naive I would think. I mean am I wrong? I really don’t know personally. And not that it’s good or bad or whatever. But motivations exist and there’s no point getting offended when someone examines them.
Some people will say that having a family, house, and job is all you need to be successful. Others will say being rich, famous, and having real power make you successful. The word itself is subjective.
You don't HAVE to risk your health to be successful but there are all kinds of people who do it(NFL, boxers, NHL, bodybuilders, UFC, etc.)
Yes, I want to be a buisness monger almost as bad as I want to be huge and shredded. To support my being huge and shredded of course lolI just hope you’re using that drive in service of a legacy beyond just your physique.
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I have a lot of aquantainces, but only a few people who I can truly call friends. REAL friends, who are loyal and will have your back, are hard to come by nowadays.Meaningful relationships, family and friends is how I define success.
Yup I've got 3. And 3 other friends who I used to consider in that category but just run me threw the mud.I have a lot of aquantainces, but only a few people who I can truly call friends. REAL friends, who are loyal and will have your back, are hard to come by nowadays.
A lot of that is because society is trash nowadays to be honest.I have a lot of aquantainces, but only a few people who I can truly call friends. REAL friends, who are loyal and will have your back, are hard to come by nowadays.
Wow doc, how enlightening.And soon to look like a "Roly Poly"
News flash you won't be shredded running AAS and expecting them to do most of the work, that requires a strict diet (something you didn't post) and involves much more than meat and potatoes.
It sounds like the doc has a stick up his ass.Wow doc, how enlightening.
I think I mentioned that i categorize training and nutrition together when I'm planning, and drugs separately.
I'm well aware of this doctor but thank you for the reiteration for those who didn't know that
I would be the opposing view in the competitive side to @tengtren. My doses are moderate. So agreed. Nothing is absolute.I don’t think it matters to him if people disagree or disapprove, I don’t think he’s taking it personally. I’m sure he even respects the fact that he opened it up for public conversation.
Am I wrong?
This opens up some important topics if we want to be mature about it. Like, what are the benefits or payoffs to AAS usage line this and say once or twice yearly cycles of maybe 1g-1.5g of gear at most? At what point would diminishing returns make more gear pointless for hobbyists vs competitors? Someone told me to basically never touch Tren if I don’t want to compete - T and GH only is what was suggested to me for physique and athletic goals.
Having a little trouble understanding this one macEveryone here understands this is a thread about bodybuilding, right? Like. Get huge. He competes. Taking his word he knows how to diet and train.
It’s cool I guess. Someone in another thread asked a question, said he was experienced, then gave me his bench press as proof. I guess there are no bounds, rules, or understandings here.
Nothing is taken personally over here, after all this is the internet.I don’t think it matters to him if people disagree or disapprove, I don’t think he’s taking it personally. I’m sure he even respects the fact that he opened it up for public conversation.
Am I wrong?
This opens up some important topics if we want to be mature about it. Like, what are the benefits or payoffs to AAS usage line this and say once or twice yearly cycles of maybe 1g-1.5g of gear at most? At what point would diminishing returns make more gear pointless for hobbyists vs competitors? Someone told me to basically never touch Tren if I don’t want to compete - T and GH only is what was suggested to me for physique and athletic goals.
I admire his mindset, it is indeed very masculine, and not to sow doubt or anything, but charging this assuredly into nearly certain health impairments (if my understanding is correct) sounds like his mindset may also be a product of exogenous masculine hormone.
Did you feel it move?