TenGrams How To #3: Get big, REAL big, in 1 year

Did this forum just say that masculinity is toxic? Woah.

The mindset isn’t hormonal. You either have this or you don’t. Drugs is an easy one. Are pro athletes not as careless as @tengtren? Football players reduce the longevity of their lives and contribute towards inducing chronic injuries every week.

Past saying “woah man,” there’s nothing to be done AND it isn’t exclusive to the bodybuilding/gear world.
 
Did this forum just say that masculinity is toxic? Woah.

The mindset isn’t hormonal. You either have this or you don’t. Drugs is an easy one. Are pro athletes not as careless as @tengtren? Football players reduce the longevity of their lives and contribute towards inducing chronic injuries every week.

Past saying “woah man,” there’s nothing to be done AND it isn’t exclusive to the bodybuilding/gear world.
Good stuff
 
Did this forum just say that masculinity is toxic? Woah.

The mindset isn’t hormonal. You either have this or you don’t. Drugs is an easy one. Are pro athletes not as careless as @tengtren? Football players reduce the longevity of their lives and contribute towards inducing chronic injuries every week.

Past saying “woah man,” there’s nothing to be done AND it isn’t exclusive to the bodybuilding/gear world.
That’s far from what I was saying. I was saying I admire it. In fact I think the masculine approach would be to think objectively about the pros and cons as they’re presented instead of being swept up in the romanticism of riding off into the sunset.

To say cruising on a gram and a half of test a week wouldn’t have a significant impact on your mindset is a bit naive I would think. I mean am I wrong? I really don’t know personally. And not that it’s good or bad or whatever. But motivations exist and there’s no point getting offended when someone examines them.
 
the question than becomes how do you define success, and being above average, don't think you have to risk your health or lifespan to do that
Some people will say that having a family, house, and job is all you need to be successful. Others will say being rich, famous, and having power make you successful. The word itself is subjective.

You don't HAVE to risk your health to be successful but there are all kinds of people who do it(NFL, boxers, NHL, bodybuilders, UFC, etc.)
 
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That’s far from what I was saying. I was saying I admire it. In fact I think the masculine approach would be to think objectively about the pros and cons as they’re presented instead of being swept up in the romanticism of riding off into the sunset.

To say cruising on a gram and a half of test a week wouldn’t have a significant impact on your mindset is a bit naive I would think. I mean am I wrong? I really don’t know personally. And not that it’s good or bad or whatever. But motivations exist and there’s no point getting offended when someone examines them.
Yeah was mostly joking about the masculinity thing.

I understand the mindset but haven’t found myself in a position to require going there with gear yet. Maybe that’s luck. But shame on me to dictate what’s for somebody else.
 
Some people will say that having a family, house, and job is all you need to be successful. Others will say being rich, famous, and having real power make you successful. The word itself is subjective.

You don't HAVE to risk your health to be successful but there are all kinds of people who do it(NFL, boxers, NHL, bodybuilders, UFC, etc.)

Meaningful relationships, family and friends is how I define success.
 
And soon to look like a "Roly Poly"

News flash you won't be shredded running AAS and expecting them to do most of the work, that requires a strict diet (something you didn't post) and involves much more than meat and potatoes.
Wow doc, how enlightening.

I think I mentioned that i categorize training and nutrition together when I'm planning, and drugs separately.

I'm well aware of this doctor but thank you for the reiteration for those who didn't know that
 
Wow doc, how enlightening.

I think I mentioned that i categorize training and nutrition together when I'm planning, and drugs separately.

I'm well aware of this doctor but thank you for the reiteration for those who didn't know that
It sounds like the doc has a stick up his ass.
 
Everyone here understands this is a thread about bodybuilding, right? Like. Get huge. He competes. Taking his word he knows how to diet and train.

It’s cool I guess. Someone in another thread asked a question, said he was experienced, then gave me his bench press as proof. I guess there are no bounds, rules, or understandings here.
 
I don’t think it matters to him if people disagree or disapprove, I don’t think he’s taking it personally. I’m sure he even respects the fact that he opened it up for public conversation.

Am I wrong?

This opens up some important topics if we want to be mature about it. Like, what are the benefits or payoffs to AAS usage line this and say once or twice yearly cycles of maybe 1g-1.5g of gear at most? At what point would diminishing returns make more gear pointless for hobbyists vs competitors? Someone told me to basically never touch Tren if I don’t want to compete - T and GH only is what was suggested to me for physique and athletic goals.
 
I don’t think it matters to him if people disagree or disapprove, I don’t think he’s taking it personally. I’m sure he even respects the fact that he opened it up for public conversation.

Am I wrong?

This opens up some important topics if we want to be mature about it. Like, what are the benefits or payoffs to AAS usage line this and say once or twice yearly cycles of maybe 1g-1.5g of gear at most? At what point would diminishing returns make more gear pointless for hobbyists vs competitors? Someone told me to basically never touch Tren if I don’t want to compete - T and GH only is what was suggested to me for physique and athletic goals.
I would be the opposing view in the competitive side to @tengtren. My doses are moderate. So agreed. Nothing is absolute.

But “you know you have to eat and trying right” isn’t a relevant comment in here lol.
 
Everyone here understands this is a thread about bodybuilding, right? Like. Get huge. He competes. Taking his word he knows how to diet and train.

It’s cool I guess. Someone in another thread asked a question, said he was experienced, then gave me his bench press as proof. I guess there are no bounds, rules, or understandings here.
Having a little trouble understanding this one mac
I don’t think it matters to him if people disagree or disapprove, I don’t think he’s taking it personally. I’m sure he even respects the fact that he opened it up for public conversation.

Am I wrong?

This opens up some important topics if we want to be mature about it. Like, what are the benefits or payoffs to AAS usage line this and say once or twice yearly cycles of maybe 1g-1.5g of gear at most? At what point would diminishing returns make more gear pointless for hobbyists vs competitors? Someone told me to basically never touch Tren if I don’t want to compete - T and GH only is what was suggested to me for physique and athletic goals.
Nothing is taken personally over here, after all this is the internet.

At the end of my original post I said "hope this got some wheels spinning" or something like that

I do like what this thread has/is turning into, some good pov and idea have been shared and I respect everyone who's shared
 
I admire his mindset, it is indeed very masculine, and not to sow doubt or anything, but charging this assuredly into nearly certain health impairments (if my understanding is correct) sounds like his mindset may also be a product of exogenous masculine hormone.

Did you feel it move? :(
 
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