TenGrams How To #3: Get big, REAL big, in 1 year

There is a much deeper psychological issues underlying here. Your head sounds even more fucked up than mine. That's scary.
You not wrong. I never claim to be clear headed and I have and have had my troubles as everyone does.

While you think I am insane for what I do, I cannot understand why anybody would want to go through life average. It doesn't make any sense to me why everyone wouldn't want to push the limits with what they're doing. I never will understand just as some people will never understand my position

Mental illness? Possible

I believe more it's just different breeds of people
I believe you have to be a little crazy to be successful, unless you're born into wealth, hit the lottery, etc.

Risk vs Reward. High risk=high reward. Low risk=low reward. Very few people get to the top by playing it safe and doing what everyone else is doing. That being said, I'm not advocating this cycle, but I don't think @tengtren is looking for anyone's approval anyway.
 
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I believe you have to be a little crazy to be successful, unless you're born into wealth, hit the lottery, etc.

Risk vs Reward. High risk=high reward. Low risk=low reward. Very few people get to the top by playing it safe and doing what everyone else is doing. That being said, I'm not advocating this cycle, but I don't think @tengtren is looking for anyone's approval anyway.
No yeah I totally agree with you. If you're gonna move up in life you gotta be a little off. Somethings gotta get you to have a fire. And it's usually a combination of really fucking hard life experiences. The more the greater the human being, if they can keep their shit together through all of it.
 
No yeah I totally agree with you. If you're gonna move up in life you gotta be a little off. Somethings gotta get you to have a fire. And it's usually a combination of really fucking hard life experiences. The more the greater the human being, if they can keep their shit together through all of it.
True, it takes a lot of time to get anything worth having and just one wrong move or mistake can be costly. Luck, combined with help from others, never hurts either.

Here is a good essay by Arnold
“I Am Not A Self-Made Man”
 
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I believe you have to be a little crazy to be successful, unless you're born into wealth, hit the lottery, etc.

Risk vs Reward. High risk=high reward. Low risk=low reward. Very few people get to the top by playing it safe and doing what everyone else is doing. That being said, I'm not advocating this cycle, but I don't think @tengtren is looking for anyone's approval anyway.
the question than becomes how do you define success, and being above average, don't think you have to risk your health or lifespan to do that
 
the question than becomes how do you define success, and being above average, don't think you have to risk your health or lifespan to do that
Above average really isn’t the marker he’s talking about.

Bodybuilding may be one of the most unhealthy applications of this concept, but the mindset is if you aren’t ready to to do absolutely evrything to succeed to the maximum level possible then why do it?
 
This is something I preach all the time.

I'd rather die doing what I believe I need to do to be what I want than live wondering if I wasn't pushing enough never getting there.

This has been my life for the past 10 years, I know what I want.

I push hard on EVERYTHING, every single workout in my entire life has been hard I've never go in just for some "light touch up work". And I eat HARD. And when it's time to diet I diet HARD.

The only egg I have is in the only basket I care about
I've been bodybuilding about 24 years now, competed for over half of that time.

I was the same exact way and had your same exact outlook on life (I didn't use nearly that much stuff though, not even show prepping)

One day you're going to look back on all of this and wonder what you could have done with life outside of just going to the gym, sticking syringes in ya, and eating all the time.

I know several guys who let bodybuilding run their lives. They pretty much lost anyone and everything they ever had for it. Some of them eventually just took a bullet to the head when they realized this.

I see no reason to run all of that shit man. You're wasting your money. I'm a lean 233 lbs right now and I'm using 200mg/wk TRT, 2iu/day HGH, and 300-450mg/wk deca. Nothing more than that.

Not trying to be that guy here, just saying to please reevaluate your outlook on this. Take it from someone who had your same outlook once. IT AIN'T WORTH IT. You control it, don't let it control you. Good luck man
 
Above average really isn’t the marker he’s talking about.

Bodybuilding may be one of the most unhealthy applications of this concept, but the mindset is if you aren’t ready to to do absolutely evrything to succeed to the maximum level possible then why do it?
and I believe using that as an excuse to inject grams of gear is not a valid reason. More of like twisting the truth about life to excuse bad behavior
 
:DDon’t listen to him. His handle is DemonDosage. *hooded kermit*

@Demondosage ive heard tons of stories identical to your post. You’re not wrong. But i don’t think he’ll be convinced otherwise. In fact I bet the argument will be “did you want to go pro, well are you a pro?” If not, maybe you didn’t do enough. If you are, is your argument more valid? Don’t know.

Personal decisions kids. We take what we have available and make a judgement. @tengtren is way right on the spectrum. Question is which one.:D
 
and I believe using that as an excuse to inject grams of gear is not a valid reason. More of like twisting the truth about life to excuse bad behavior
Excuse, or what’s necessary for a particular person to achieve a particular goal?

My 250g of test isn’t the same as yours or @tengtren. Maybe the guys a horrid responder. Maybe I’m a hyper responder. Maybe i make gains on 250 while he needs (wether legit or just thinks he does) 2g.

I’m not condoning this thread, I’m simply stating we are not him. We’ve all said “wtf” to these dosages.
 
Excuse, or what’s necessary for a particular person to achieve a particular goal?

My 250g of test isn’t the same as yours or @tengtren. Maybe the guys a horrid responder. Maybe I’m a hyper responder. Maybe i make gains on 250 while he needs (wether legit or just thinks he does) 2g.

I’m not condoning this thread, I’m simply stating we are not him. We’ve all said “wtf” to these dosages.
than you get into 2 sayings

Vince Lombardi said "there aint no substitute for talent"

Clint Eastwood " A man's got to know his limitation"

Both pretty successful guys.

And nobody's saying don't work to achieve or even excel at your goals, but one you get to the point of risking your health, you've lost your way
 
than you get into 2 sayings

Vince Lombardi said "there aint no substitute for talent"

Clint Eastwood " A man's got to know his limitation"

Both pretty successful guys.

And nobody's saying don't work to achieve or even excel at your goals, but one you get to the point of risking your health, you've lost your way
For you. For someone else long term health may be an acceptable risk for the goal or way they want to live. Shortsighted? Probably.

Alfred: Know your limits, Master Wayne.
Bruce: Batman has no limits.
Alfred: Well, you do, sir.
Bruce: Well, can't afford to know 'em.

We’re not going to reconcile mindsets here. We should all just be subbed for the results come December 2019....
 
but one you get to the point of risking your health, you've lost your way
A very important thing I've learned is to know your stance, be firm in your opinion, and to never be sorry. Because living knowing you can't be sorry leaves little room to do and say things you will regret
 
:DDon’t listen to him. His handle is DemonDosage. *hooded kermit*

@Demondosage ive heard tons of stories identical to your post. You’re not wrong. But i don’t think he’ll be convinced otherwise. In fact I bet the argument will be “did you want to go pro, well are you a pro?” If not, maybe you didn’t do enough. If you are, is your argument more valid? Don’t know.

Personal decisions kids. We take what we have available and make a judgement. @tengtren is way right on the spectrum. Question is which one.:D
Hahaha, yea I made this handle a long time ago, back when I dosed a little higher than now. Nice log btw in your other thread there, I was just checking it out a few days ago
 
I admire his mindset, it is indeed very masculine, and not to sow doubt or anything, but charging this assuredly into nearly certain health impairments (if my understanding is correct) sounds like his mindset may also be a product of exogenous masculine hormone.
 
I admire his mindset, it is indeed very masculine, and not to sow doubt or anything, but charging this assuredly into nearly certain health impairments (if my understanding is correct) sounds like his mindset may also be a product of exogenous masculine hormone.
Very possible, though natural I had the same mind set, maybe I had excess male hormone to begin with that causes this "mind set"
 
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