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TenGrams How To #3: Get big, REAL big, in 1 year
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picholas
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How is this a cruise???
tengtren
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I really don't want to post pictures
Seattle23
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this whole thread is a bunch of made up bologna
Just wait for 2020; he’ll be the shortest SHW on stage.
Seattle23
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And I'll be the next president in 2020.
Any current blood work?
Roco Bama
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I say go for it and let us know how it works out with before and after pics and bloodwork
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Roco Bama
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How tall are you climber ?
If you really want to "get big" in a year, there are way better ways to do it....
Drugs aside, I would focus on a progressive overload program for 12 weeks in a big caloric surplus. After that, I would de-load for 1 week ( at least). Followed by a moderate "cut" to shed off some fat/increase insulin sensitivity for 4-6 weeks. I would immediately blast off again after that cut with high caloric and heavy weights (progressive overload again)....
Rinse and repeat.
Drugs aside, I would focus on a progressive overload program for 12 weeks in a big caloric surplus. After that, I would de-load for 1 week ( at least). Followed by a moderate "cut" to shed off some fat/increase insulin sensitivity for 4-6 weeks. I would immediately blast off again after that cut with high caloric and heavy weights (progressive overload again)....
Rinse and repeat.
tengtren
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I think people have miss understanding the TenGram way.
My intentions with this one were NOT take as many drugs you can and that's all. I believe I wrote in that training and diet are a different write up.
MOST members here use steroids, and I assume if you are using steroids then you know how to train, and know how to eat.
These are MY doses, and this how to was a template of how to plan a year long go, and not stray from it. It should be obvious you can use different compounds, different doses, pct, or cruise to your liking. I am encouraging people to plan for their whole year. Not month to month or week to week like I did wrongfully in my beginning.
Of the four things that matter the most in this thing we do (training, eating, drugs, rest) the TenGrams way is they are ALL OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE.
My intentions with this one were NOT take as many drugs you can and that's all. I believe I wrote in that training and diet are a different write up.
MOST members here use steroids, and I assume if you are using steroids then you know how to train, and know how to eat.
These are MY doses, and this how to was a template of how to plan a year long go, and not stray from it. It should be obvious you can use different compounds, different doses, pct, or cruise to your liking. I am encouraging people to plan for their whole year. Not month to month or week to week like I did wrongfully in my beginning.
Of the four things that matter the most in this thing we do (training, eating, drugs, rest) the TenGrams way is they are ALL OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE.
tengtren
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I'd also like to say everyone has their own approach to things, and yes this is a Wild West kind of board but if you think your way is better.
Please start your own thread explaining it, that way it keeps the different camps separate and if someone want to search for yours one day, it won't be in the middle of a TenGrams thread
Please start your own thread explaining it, that way it keeps the different camps separate and if someone want to search for yours one day, it won't be in the middle of a TenGrams thread
In an ideal world but I get your point.
I have most of my year planned with a bit of variability based on access to compounds or a bit of indecision on what part they'll be used in. Still 85% of the way there and I can put a solid year together with what's on hand regardless.
Cruising right now for the past 7 weeks. Core lifts still moving up and haven't lost much outside of the tren/winny hard look. Just got bloodwork taken. Will likely start a blast in mid Nov if all looks good.
Winter will be mostly Test/Deca with some other compounds rotated in the mix (winny/adrol/dbol/var are possibilities). 2 months cruise. Late Spring/Summer will be Test/Tren/Mast most likely then 2 months cruise. Blasts as 12-16 weeks. Big variable is I'd like to do a 16-20 week primobolan run at 800mg but dealing with variables right now so that might be another time. Primo/Var and test base would be a killer spring/summer in which case I'd run some tren in winter. Pondering the if's.
tengtren
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Sounds good, pondering the ifs is fun right?
Rockclimber
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6'2"
Currently at 237 so maybe in 12 weeks I can be 250. With Thanksgiving in there I'm sure I can do it. Cut to 225 for summer pool.
Sure is! We spend most of our time in recovery (sleep/eat mode) as opposed to training so you have time to ponder them. Lots of options. I'm actually feeling good and doing well on my cruise right now (I had sciatic issues last year that crushed my squat and pulls so easy to regain) that I'm considering delaying getting back on. The issue here is that it will offset my entire yearly plan (ironic is it not?) so may just run something mild and maybe dabble a bit with some orals at the beginning and end.
Speaking of bloods I had been on 350-500mg of tren a per week for 12 weeks and winstrol at 50mg a day for 4 weeks and got liver values. AST was in normal range albeit higher end and ALT was one point above. Everything else fine though RBC/crit gets elevated so I give blood. Recent test after 7 weeks off/cruise I pulled lipids too and hope that they've fallen back in line. Need to see where my crit is and donate as needed.
tengtren
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I don't donate as much as I should. I have never had sciatic nerve issues but other nagging things it sucks going into the gym wondering if that pain is going to fire and fuck up your session.
Not such a big deal to push a cruise a little longer than expected imo, and when you say 350-500 tren a ew how do you get that range lol?
Not such a big deal to push a cruise a little longer than expected imo, and when you say 350-500 tren a ew how do you get that range lol?
100mg EOD is roughly 350 weekly . I then scaled to 150mg so 525mg weekly (so 50ED or 75ED equivalent which is pretty standard). I rounded the 525 to 500. First few weeks are hard sleeping and 350 moves the needle enough so I take it up again 3 weeks in if I'm feeling good.
What I ran was 500mg test cyp, the tren per above, 125mg of deca weekly (joints), masteron at 400mg a week and then dropped that 5-6 weeks from the end and swapped in winstrol at 50mg ED. I cruise on TRT test cyp and a bit of deca right now (not a strict test only cruise but oh well) so letting the masteron out got rid of the long ester and finishing on winny let me drop that and tren a quickly allowing test/deca to work their way down on my cruise dose.
My bloods can be perfect and totally unchanged on 200mg of test and 200mg of deca or even a bit more. That was my old prescribed TRT for years though I don't always run low dose deca now and often purely test. Just need to watch RBC and crit with both in the mix but I donate regularly, pull bloods regularly, and can take blood myself at home weekly as needed to crush it down.
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