I think I kick started with dbol too which had an effect on the numbers. But I wanna say it was 400 for 6 weeks then I bumped it to 600 for another 4 or 5 weeks.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
TenGrams How To #3: Get big, REAL big, in 1 year
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tengtren
New Member
Not intrusive, I'll share this. I'm a bodybuilder and do complete, indirectly yes it is how I make my living. I am very interested in nutrition and that is my second passion behind bodybuilding, I am a nutritional sciences major. I would love to work in a clinical setting, but aspire to own multiple businesses along with that.
I look at it this way, I've always since a kid wanted to be a professional bodybuilder. And the older I got I realized how expensive it really is, the bigger you are it's simple the more money you put in your body(food/drugs/health supps) so I said what can I do that's bodybuilding oriented that can make me some money well for me it's nutrition.
I am not married, no kids, I have a girl but we are more life partners. She's fucking huge too. She wants to be pro as bad as I do, we are quite literally perfect for each other. She does everything I do (to a lesser degree) but none the less extremely goal oriented (bodybuilding)
master.on
New Member
1st cycle 10-12 weeksHey everyone, so as 2018 is in its final months. I am starting to plan out my 2019, and I’ve decided it will be devoted (mostly) to bulking or growing or whatever you like to call it that tickle you tip. Right now I am about 230 butt ass naked post-morning shit, and by January 2019 I plan to be 245, butt naked, post-morning shit.
Each year I do generally the same thing around this time, which is write up, stock up, and save the fuck up (food). The method I explain in this episodes TenGrams how to has done a few things that has made me continue to do it over the years.
- Save MONEY
- Not stray from my original plan (maybe not everyone has trouble with this but in the beginning I sure did. Id write something up a diet or a cycle or training then id watch From Jay to Z and think, fuck, Jay eats oats and steak pre workout I need to do that) WRONG!! STICK WITH YOUR SHIT!!
- Make amazing, trackable progress
So I start like this, I sit at my desk with my notebook, pen, calculator and my meal.
I decide what compounds I want to use for the WHOLE year. This year I’m going basic. Im using Testosterone, Nandrolone, Trenbolone, Anadrol, Dbol and Winstrol.
Your probably thinking “OMG TenGrams all that all year? No baby boy, ill explain in a few moments.
I write each month of the year on its own line on the paper, and out beside it, the compounds used. It looks like this.
Jan - Test, Nandrolone, Drol (Blast)
Feb - Test, Nandrolone (Blast)
Mar - Test, Nandrolone, Drol, Dbol (Blast)
Apr - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
May - Test, Tren, Drol (Blast)
Jun - Test, Tren, Winstrol (Blast)
Jul - Test, Tren (Blast)
Aug - Test, Tren, Drol, Dbol (Blast)
Sep - Test, Tren (Cruise)
Oct - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
Nov - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
Dec - Test, Nandrolone, Drol (Blast)
Thats how I begin, it is my rough draft/outline, ill tear that piece out so I can easily reference it during the next step. Now I write specifics of each month, mine looks like this.
-JAN-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED - 700mg ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
NPP 1ml - ED - 700mg ew
Anapalon 100mg - Training days only
-FEB-
Same as previous without the anadrol
-MARCH-
Same as previous but add Anadrol 100mg and Dbol 50mg pre workout
-APRIL-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
-MAY-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Tren E 1ml - Mon Wed Fri = 750mg ew
Tren A .4ml - ED = 280
Anapalon 100mg pre workout
-JUNE-
Same as previous but change anadrol to Winstrol 50mg pre workout
-JULY-
Same as previous with no orals
-AUG-
Same as previous but add back Anadrol 100mg and Dbol 50mg pre workout
-SEPT-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Tren E 1ml - Mon Wed Fri = 750mg ew
-OCT-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900ew
-NOV-
Same as previous
-DEC-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
NPP 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Anapalon 100mg pre workout
So, now you have a solid template of what your whole anabolic year will look like, throw some TNE or TrNE in there when you want to be even more of an animal in the gym and your set. The next thing is what i like to call a “Gear Grocery List” (this is where the money saving comes in (for non brew wizards). Sometimes I find myself buying this from that new lab, or buying dhb because my source now carries it, or buying m1t because its kind of hard to come by and so and so source has it. Well motherfucker now packs are flying in to my place like a hail storm and wow, all of a sudden I have all this shit that, MAYBE ill get to next year. Well that shit needed to end (for me). Now I’m going to look at each month and figure out how much I need and yes, write it out. I put little check boxes out there too, it looks like this.
JAN
3 x Test E [ ]
3 x Test P [ ]
2 x Deca [ ]
3 x NPP [ ]
40 x Anapalon [ ]
And so on. And as I obtain packs me and my girl do our ritual pack opening routine (we get naked, and one of us usually ends up posing in the mirror while the other opens it and checks things in) lol.
If I can’t help it yeah ill get a few extra bottles for later
So now for a bit of an explanation on the gear, half the year I’m test deca and other half test tren essentially. You may like test eq all year and add mast for half or nand as you like. Of course you can make your blasts and cruise as long or as short, or have months you pct if thats what you do. What I’m doing is keeping my base compounds in with the long esters, then when I blast, add up to the weekly dosage I want with the short ester versions of the compound. This has been a very good thing for me when I’m consistent with it.
Three components boys the ones you always hear everyone say, training nutrition drugs. Drugs are one thing I do like to plan out in a year advance but training and nutrition are separate and a more month to month thing. Unless you want to dedicate a whole year to bringing up say your back or legs you can do them all three at once. This is not unheard of.
Im not competing until 2020, if I were things would be a bit different. Anyways I hope I got some minds rolling and ideas flowing!!
Until next time.
Test E or Cyp pyramid up from 500 mg to 1g
300 mg EQ
300 mg Deca
Adrol 50 mg per day in the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle, split during the day
HCG 250 IU/week split as much as you can
(no Tren yet)
AI as needed according to estradiol bloodwork
PCT/off-cycle 4-8 weeks
HCG 150 IU during the whole pct/off-cycle
2nd cycle 10-12 weeks
Test E or Cyp pyramid up from 750 mg to 1.5g per week
500 mg EQ
300 mg Deca
Adrol 75 mg per day in the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle, split during the day
HCG 250 IU/week split as much as you can
350 mg Tren E /wk
AI as needed according to estradiol bloodwork
PCT/off-cycle 4-8 weeks
HCG 150 IU during the whole pct/off-cycle
3rd cycle
Test E or Cyp pyramid up from 1g to 2g/wk
600 mg EQ
300 mg Deca
Adrol 100 mg per day, split during the day
HCG 250 IU/week split as much as you can
400-500 mg Tren E /wk
AI as needed according to estradiol bloodwork
PCT/off-cycle 4-8 weeks
HCG 150 IU during the whole pct/off-cycle
Donate blood twice during all cycles
At least get estradiol and hematocrit bloodwork
Check your BP daily
Have some Atenolol handy for high BP. It's great for calming you down to let you sleep at night.
Post a Journal with pics.
BigNattyDaddy
Banned
Just read that entire thread. A good reminder of the risks involved with AAS. Hope @Mr.Oz is doing well.
He was active the other day. Started a thread about leg pain 4 years after last run
Test_Subject
Member
How to develop an enlarged heart and die, would be a more accurate title...
tengtren
New Member
Probably not, maybe 1 in Jan and 1 in dec 2019 if any
TRT
New Member
Oh hell ya. I tell them both that I just wanna drop kick them. They have the worst diet's too. Well for bodybuilding but better then the average person.
Yes. Did this with my brother. To this day he still won't let me live it down that he gains more then I do on a smaller cycle.
I've known both of these dudes for 10+ years. I work with one of them so we're together sometimes 16hrs a day working and the other one I train and hangout with probably every other weekend. They're honest about everything but I get what your saying.
AlwaysHungry
Well-known Member
Had a friend who didn’t really goes to the gym one day he decided to do steroids deca only 250mg per week 8 weeks no diet no serious training. That mother fucker gained almost 25lbs no deca dick no nothing didn’t do pct he didbt train after cycle and the bastard have kept 20lbs from it for over 1-1,5 years
Sk8man101
Well-known Member
Stupid fucking cycle plan.
Even if you experience no longer term sides. The acne and hair loss and e2 and liver shit.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while.
Even if you experience no longer term sides. The acne and hair loss and e2 and liver shit.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while.
AlwaysHungry
Well-known Member
It’s a good plan but the dosages are high especially the cruise dosages the blast dosages can be good and this 1 year plan is to get from 230 to 245.
What are gonna be the dosages if you want to jump at 260-280
What are gonna be the dosages if you want to jump at 260-280
tengtren
New Member
Good question, after this I'm going to use these doses until they don't work anymore
AlwaysHungry
Well-known Member
Blast dosages are fine but on cruise you’ll probably better than alright with 500 test 250-300 deca
Innocence? Maybe some are but most have been around the block a few times. Where the "innocence" (naivete) lies is with those *on all forums* who actually believe if they just train hard enough, eat enough, and take enough drugs, they can be Olympia contenders too. It's ridiculous. You don't have to look any further than Boston Llyod to see it isn't true. No one has taken more drugs for such little return. There are naturals that have as much muscle mass (all that oil he's full of doesn't count).
Why people are willing to accept a bell curve exists for every other human endeavor except bodybuilding baffles the mind. Some people can sing, most can't. Some people can throw a 100mph fastball, most can't. There are people like Boston Llyod that use a shitlaod of gear and never amount to anything. Then there are people like Shawn Ray and Ronnie Coleman that dwarfed Boston Lloyd before they ever touched a steroid. Either you have it or you don't. To think otherwise is not only innocent, it's naive.
I know crazy drug use like the OP's is becoming the norm on other forums. I also know it's unnecessary for 99% of the people doing it. I've been around long enough to watch these fads come and go. I've also been around long enough to know what works. If you want to waste thousands of dollars and your health just to gain 4 ounces more muscle at the end of your cycle than you would have on reasonable dosages, have at it. But don't assume I'm "innocent" for saying it's stupid. It is stupid.
Keepittight
Banned
Hey everyone, so as 2018 is in its final months. I am starting to plan out my 2019, and I’ve decided it will be devoted (mostly) to bulking or growing or whatever you like to call it that tickle you tip. Right now I am about 230 butt ass naked post-morning shit, and by January 2019 I plan to be 245, butt naked, post-morning shit.
Each year I do generally the same thing around this time, which is write up, stock up, and save the fuck up (food). The method I explain in this episodes TenGrams how to has done a few things that has made me continue to do it over the years.
- Save MONEY
- Not stray from my original plan (maybe not everyone has trouble with this but in the beginning I sure did. Id write something up a diet or a cycle or training then id watch From Jay to Z and think, fuck, Jay eats oats and steak pre workout I need to do that) WRONG!! STICK WITH YOUR SHIT!!
- Make amazing, trackable progress
So I start like this, I sit at my desk with my notebook, pen, calculator and my meal.
I decide what compounds I want to use for the WHOLE year. This year I’m going basic. Im using Testosterone, Nandrolone, Trenbolone, Anadrol, Dbol and Winstrol.
Your probably thinking “OMG TenGrams all that all year? No baby boy, ill explain in a few moments.
I write each month of the year on its own line on the paper, and out beside it, the compounds used. It looks like this.
Jan - Test, Nandrolone, Drol (Blast)
Feb - Test, Nandrolone (Blast)
Mar - Test, Nandrolone, Drol, Dbol (Blast)
Apr - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
May - Test, Tren, Drol (Blast)
Jun - Test, Tren, Winstrol (Blast)
Jul - Test, Tren (Blast)
Aug - Test, Tren, Drol, Dbol (Blast)
Sep - Test, Tren (Cruise)
Oct - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
Nov - Test, Nandrolone (Cruise)
Dec - Test, Nandrolone, Drol (Blast)
Thats how I begin, it is my rough draft/outline, ill tear that piece out so I can easily reference it during the next step. Now I write specifics of each month, mine looks like this.
-JAN-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED - 700mg ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
NPP 1ml - ED - 700mg ew
Anapalon 100mg - Training days only
-FEB-
Same as previous without the anadrol
-MARCH-
Same as previous but add Anadrol 100mg and Dbol 50mg pre workout
-APRIL-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
-MAY-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Tren E 1ml - Mon Wed Fri = 750mg ew
Tren A .4ml - ED = 280
Anapalon 100mg pre workout
-JUNE-
Same as previous but change anadrol to Winstrol 50mg pre workout
-JULY-
Same as previous with no orals
-AUG-
Same as previous but add back Anadrol 100mg and Dbol 50mg pre workout
-SEPT-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Tren E 1ml - Mon Wed Fri = 750mg ew
-OCT-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900ew
-NOV-
Same as previous
-DEC-
Test E 2ml - Mon Wed Fri = 1.5g ew
Test P 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Deca 1.5ml - Mon Fri = 900mg ew
NPP 1ml - ED = 700mg ew
Anapalon 100mg pre workout
So, now you have a solid template of what your whole anabolic year will look like, throw some TNE or TrNE in there when you want to be even more of an animal in the gym and your set. The next thing is what i like to call a “Gear Grocery List” (this is where the money saving comes in (for non brew wizards). Sometimes I find myself buying this from that new lab, or buying dhb because my source now carries it, or buying m1t because its kind of hard to come by and so and so source has it. Well motherfucker now packs are flying in to my place like a hail storm and wow, all of a sudden I have all this shit that, MAYBE ill get to next year. Well that shit needed to end (for me). Now I’m going to look at each month and figure out how much I need and yes, write it out. I put little check boxes out there too, it looks like this.
JAN
3 x Test E [ ]
3 x Test P [ ]
2 x Deca [ ]
3 x NPP [ ]
40 x Anapalon [ ]
And so on. And as I obtain packs me and my girl do our ritual pack opening routine (we get naked, and one of us usually ends up posing in the mirror while the other opens it and checks things in) lol.
If I can’t help it yeah ill get a few extra bottles for later
So now for a bit of an explanation on the gear, half the year I’m test deca and other half test tren essentially. You may like test eq all year and add mast for half or nand as you like. Of course you can make your blasts and cruise as long or as short, or have months you pct if thats what you do. What I’m doing is keeping my base compounds in with the long esters, then when I blast, add up to the weekly dosage I want with the short ester versions of the compound. This has been a very good thing for me when I’m consistent with it.
Three components boys the ones you always hear everyone say, training nutrition drugs. Drugs are one thing I do like to plan out in a year advance but training and nutrition are separate and a more month to month thing. Unless you want to dedicate a whole year to bringing up say your back or legs you can do them all three at once. This is not unheard of.
Im not competing until 2020, if I were things would be a bit different. Anyways I hope I got some minds rolling and ideas flowing!!
Until next time.
I'm not feeling all the orals bro.
Keepittight
Banned
60 mg lexapro? The most my doctor has given me is 20mg. They told me that's the max dose :/
Keepittight
Banned
Ummmm lol
tengtren
New Member
I've used such little orals In my time lol my oral usage has been dbol 30 a day for about 4 weeks, winstrol 25 a day for 5 and anadrol 50 for 2 weeks(I got some and couldn't wait so ran 2 weeks to see how I do and it's by far my favorite) that's all
Jankauskas
Member
I was reading your post and agreeing with everything until you mentioned Ronnie and Shawn Ray. The “natural” Ronnie you mention bigger than Bostin Lloyd was on hefty dosages for ages, he played football in his younger years, do I need to say more?
Same for Shawn Ray, and even that “natural” 19 year old lee priest that was juiced out of his fucking skull.
That being said, would people look like them on the same amounts?
Never.
It’s not about achieving their development, anyone can achieve that on the same dosages if training and diet are on point, it’s about the way they look, and that is where I agree with you on the Bostin Lloyd part.
He takes all that shit and he looks like shit, he just wasn’t born for it.
But the norm here and in other forums seems to be preaching that “most pros that I know take less than 2 grams of gear”, I don’t know if it’s just plain ignorance and stupidity, an attempt at harm reduction, or just discouraging people to push their own agenda, but it gets fucking exhausting and offensive to my intellect seeing shit like that everywhere.
