Test 300 e, npp+deca 300mg mix per 10ml vial, test d and test p, npp and deca mix 600mg per 10ml vial. I need help with dosing and ai and serm dosing.

[T-Rex5.56]

I've been on prohormones for 6 weeks. 19nor 150mg per day, epiandostrone 100mg per day, dhea 1, dhea, dhea 4 and a week ago I switched to test e at 425mg per week, npp 120mg per week and deca 180mg per week. The npp and deca is a mix and the test e is plain 300mg per ml. I recently purchased a mix of test propinate 130mg, test deconate 270mg, npp 70mg and deca 130mg. I also ordered dbol 10mg 100tabs, nalovadex 20mg 50 tabs and 1mg arimidex 25 tabs. My left breast started getting tender around the nipple so I took 20mg of Nolvadex. My question is what should I take as far as the armidex or Nolvadex and how much? Also is it OK to mix the test e with the test p and test d? I take 2 shots a week. 1 pure test e at around 225mg and then take 1ml of the npp and deca mix at 300mg total with another 225mg of test e 4 days later. That's why I got the mix of the test p and test d mixed with deca and npp to only take 1 ml on my deca shot day and have the test already mixed. I also have dbol but I'm on my 2nd week of statrting the test e so idk if I should take the dbol or not since my nipples are sore. Any advice on how to take what I have each week would be very helpful. Thanks yall

 

[4Drago]

This is why you don't buy mixes. Unless you know what doses you want to use. Someone else might chime in that wants to do all the labor...not me. Deca and npp in a mix? Test p and test u also...wtf
Also mixes are gonna make it hard dealing with crap like puffy nips.

 

[Avarice911]

Prob a bunch of fake gear or not entirely what the label claims

 

[Fattyone]

Some really wild shit going on with these mixes. Seems like you’ve taken a classic test/deca cycle and made it as complicated as you could.

Are you PCT’ing or cruising after?

 

[T-Rex5.56]

I'm gonna cruise because I naturally have low test. I can't really say the names of the place I got em from or the brand because I got warned since I'm new to the site, but they're all legit after checking the codes. It's a brand I've used several times and had great results with. I just didnt have the guidance for proper estrogen control and had no idea about pct. This was over 15 years ago. They're 1 of the most popular labs. The test e 300 is just that test e 300mg per ml, the deca and npp mix 300 is 180 deca and 120 npp and the mix #4 600 is 130mg of test p, 270mg of test deconate, 70mg of npp and 130mg deca. I do have 50 10mg tabs of dbol, but want to make sure this gyno flare is just that and goes away. I have 1mg arimidex and 20mg Nolvadex on hand as well. My plan is keep doing 2 shots a week. 1 pure test e at 225mg and the 2nd was 225 of test e with 1ml of the deca npp mix. Or I could do half a ml of the mix 600 and add 200mg of the npp and deca mix. I'm trying to rebuild muscle that atrophied over the past several years from having screw in my sciatic nerve. I've waited 2 years to heal and started the prohormones which helped but not to the point I need. I've taken it easy with weights and always had a great diet plus vitamins, collegen, creatine, glucosamine condroitin. This is very similar to cycles I've ran in the past numerous times just without the dbol and arimidex. I was told by gym bro to take the Nolvadex thru my past cycles and I'd be good but he didn't tell me anything about pct or how long to cycle. I cycled for 5-6 months on test e, test p and deca. Deca was always at 300mg per week and the test e was around 500mg and test p was around 300mg per week. I just need some advise on how to go about this cycle with the arimidex or Nolvadex or both. I'll take any advice or tips as well. Anything is much appreciated. My goal is to stick with around 400 to 500 test per week and 300mg of deca. I figured the npp and deca mix would be good to kick things off for my joints because of the arthritis i have and use with the test. The past cycles were pure deca and test e and test p. That's what I'm trying to replicate. After a month I figure drop the npp and do only test and deca. I'm still on the fence about the dbol and haven't taken any yet. It can be saved for next cycle. I know deca is a long ass cycle and I'm cool with that. I need some advice on how to go about the estrogen control and like I said any advice is welcomed. Thank yall sooooo much. I'm 39 and don't wanna mess myself up.

 

[Fattyone]

You can absolutely name the source and where you got it. We talk about sources (good and bad) on meso.

As far as estrogen control I wouldn’t take anything until I needed it, and you may never need it.

I’d do some more reading on the forum on high estrogen sides and what the options are to treat it and when. Lots of info on here.

 

[MaxLord]

Watch our for prolactin bro, get Pramipexole, P5P and vitamin e. I did a week on NPP at 140mg and had some prolactin issues. Also be aware that nandrolone causes more test to convert to estrogen, so I think youll have to up your AI dose and have Nolvadex and Raloxifne just in case

 

[Avarice911]

Just because a source was legit 15 years ago doesn't mean that its remotely good today.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

Oh avitarice...smh! If u would read my entire post my source 15 years ago was a gym bro lol. There's some really good ppl on here but there's some real "trolls", i see that word alot on here lmao idgi but wth, who just wanna look for ppl to gripe at. I'm not stupid, hell anyone would know 15 years your source is probably gone. I got in trouble for naming my source since I'm a new member, but I can say Bob used pharmacom and Bob used Deligas that Bob ordered online from one of the sponsors of this website. All the codes checked out on every order on every single item. I have Nolvadex 20mg on hand and armidex 1mg as well. What I've read on here is when u 1st start to feel gyno flare is to calm it down with Nolvadex and then take .5 to 1mg of arimidex twice a week to keep aromatase enzyme from converting test into estrogen. I read where nadrolone and npp both aromatase as well that's why I'm so concerned. This is the same cycle I've ran several times in the past just the npp is new and the only reason I added it was to jumpstart the deca I'm going to be pulling off it after the deca starts doing it's things. I did read about the prolactin and definitely gonna order that today. The only thing I've taken so far was Nolvadex yesterday and today. Yall think I should start the arimidex? I'm not here to play games so avitard please don't respond unless u have something intelligent to add. I need advice not someone wasting my time. Thanks again to yall who are helping. I really appreciate the advice.

 

[Avarice911]

You made no mention of your source being a gym bro. You only said that “They’re 1 of the most popular labs.” Simply trying to rule out that your gear could be fake. No need to be childish in response

 

[T-Rex5.56]

Come on tho....u really think I'd have a 15 year source. Sorry if I pissed u off but I've had 3 ignorant ass ppl the 1st day I joined being a smartass to me. My apologies if I offended u but I need advice on dosing ai and serms bro. I'd never trust a source 15 years ago who didn't tell me anything about pct and told me to take Nolvadex thru my 5 almost 6 month cycle. Dude was just wanting money and I was too young at the time to realize it. If u can offer advice on how I need to take my arimidex or Nolvadex please inform me. That's what I'm asking of ppl with knowledge about those type of meds. Again I apologize I just got up and read that 1st thing and thought well I guess there's more mean ppl on here than I thought. I literally almost deleted my account after the 1st day.

 

[Avarice911]

Has the nolvadex stopped the gyno pain? I take nolvadex on blast due to gyno sensitivity and it halts the pain and growth. The adex will help keep your estrogen in range as the nolvadex won’t do anything to control that. Do you have access to bloodwork? I’d throw in a low dose of adex like .5-.75mg split through the week then get bloodwork in a couple weeks and see where that puts you with estrogen. Took me a handful of tweaking things and getting bloodwork to get my estrogen right

 

[T-Rex5.56]

You can absolutely name the source and where you got it. We talk about sources (good and bad) on meso.

As far as estrogen control I wouldn’t take anything until I needed it, and you may never need it.

I’d do some more reading on the forum on high estrogen sides and what the options are to treat it and when. Lots of info on here.

I got in trouble because they said I was promoting a source. I use domestic supply, only shop domestic and never international. Oh and I only order from their warehouse 1 because the arimidex came from another warehouse and they didn't tape the box up good and idk if someone opened it or it just got crushed and opened on its own, but I lost half my order. I showed the video to Domestic-supply and they sent me out what was lost. I'm only taking the Nolvadex at the moment because what I read on here was to 1st clear gyno with that then start armidex at .5mg twice a week. Do u think I should just go ahead and start the arimidex at the .5mg every 3 days and does it matter if u take it same day as injection or just take it as my 3 day schedule goes? My next shot will be Monday and that's gonna be 300mg of the npp and deca mix along with 225ish probably more like 240mg of test e.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

Has the nolvadex stopped the gyno pain? I take nolvadex on blast due to gyno sensitivity and it halts the pain and growth. The adex will help keep your estrogen in range as the nolvadex won’t do anything to control that. Do you have access to bloodwork? I’d throw in a low dose of adex like .5-.75mg split through the week then get bloodwork in a couple weeks and see where that puts you with estrogen. Took me a handful of tweaking things and getting bloodwork to get my estrogen right

Yeah I have access to bloodwork. That's how I found out I had low t. I wasn't healing up from surgeries and my doctor wondered and tested my t levels. How long does it take the Nolvadex to ease the sensitivity and pain in my nips? I've only taken 20mg for the past 2 days. That's when I noticed the soreness behind my left nip and did some reading on here and that's what it said to do. My estrogen to t ratio was wayyy outta wack. My ratio was t 1 and est 3. I screwed myself up on that cycle 15 years ago I'm pretty sure. I got gyno after the cycle and had to seek medical attention to fix it. Thanks for being cool bud. Really I apologize again. I literally was laying in bed, just woke up and read your post and I thought here we go again lol. My apologies and thank u for any guidance. I just turned 39 and don't wanna screw up on a cycle again or waste money on stuff I don't need like the gym bro had me doing. Oh the nolvadex hasnt stopped the pain per se but it hasn't gotten any worse. It may have eased it a little but that could just be the placebo affect were I think it's eased up but it's just my mind playing tricks on me. It hasn't gotten any worse and I just put a shirt on and it didn't seem to be rough against my nip.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Very odd complicated cycle. 4 andro is just a prohormone to test. I'd rather take test. 4 andro and 1andro have better bio availability transdermally, but oral can work at higher doses. Epi andro converts to dht. If you access to gear I would rather run test and masteron.

Deca and npp os just short and long esters. Might want to get p5p to naturally control prolactin, caber and primi if it gets out of hand. Ralox is usually better on cycle for gyno protection but nolva works too. The ai is best incorporated by bloodwork. Without bloodwork you might crash estrogen by taking to much, get some blood work it's not that expensive otherwise you're just guessing. 12.5 mg aromasin e3d is what I take but I might be different.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

The 2 boxes on the left are what I'm currently taking and the 1 on the right by itself is the 600 mix I'm gonna take on my deca shot day cause I mix test with that shot so I only take 2 shots a week. I just have to set down and do the math to keep the dosages the same.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

Very odd complicated cycle. 4 andro is just a prohormone to test. I'd rather take test. 4 andro and 1andro have better bio availability transdermally, but oral can work at higher doses. Epi andro converts to dht. If you access to gear I would rather run test and masteron.

Deca and npp os just short and long esters. Might want to get p5p to naturally control prolactin, caber and primi if it gets out of hand. Ralox is usually better on cycle for gyno protection but nolva works too. The ai is best incorporated by bloodwork. Without bloodwork you might crash estrogen by taking to much, get some blood work it's not that expensive otherwise you're just guessing. 12.5 mg aromasin e3d is what I take but I might be different.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah I stopped the pro hormones. I was just trying to see if they'd work and they did and I didn't have any side effects from them unless the gyno flare is just now starting to show from the previous 5 weeks of them.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

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[T-Rex5.56]

I'll do the math on my dosing to make both shots even on the test esters and my 1 shot of deca and npp I add test to once a week so I don't have to do 3 different shots and just take 2. So it's test in 1shot around 225mg and then deca, npp at 300mg and test around 225mg in the 2nd shot. This pro lacticin is new to me also. It sounds like nips leaking if levels get too high. Am I correct on that? I've never had that happen except when I pierced them in high school. They're out now cause I went to jail for spotlighting deer at 17 and they closed cause the jail made me take em out. That's when I had stuff coming out where the holes were where they were pierced but I wasn't on anything then and hadn't even done my 1st cycle yet. See guys this is what I've needed for years. Solid advice from solid ppl who know what they're talking about. I really appreciate each and everyone of yall for taking the time to help a guy out.

 

[T-Rex5.56]

Very odd complicated cycle. 4 andro is just a prohormone to test. I'd rather take test. 4 andro and 1andro have better bio availability transdermally, but oral can work at higher doses. Epi andro converts to dht. If you access to gear I would rather run test and masteron.

Deca and npp os just short and long esters. Might want to get p5p to naturally control prolactin, caber and primi if it gets out of hand. Ralox is usually better on cycle for gyno protection but nolva works too. The ai is best incorporated by bloodwork. Without bloodwork you might crash estrogen by taking to much, get some blood work it's not that expensive otherwise you're just guessing. 12.5 mg aromasin e3d is what I take but I might be different.

Do u take the Ralox daily? I have so much Nolvadex on hand so I'll use it up 1st. I used to take it with previous cycles and had no problems with gyno until I stopped my cycles and didn't know about pct. All I would do is the last 3 weeks of my cycles I would start lowering my doses. Come to find out that didn't help cause my test was still being suppressed. I didn't have this kind of help back in the day and I'm so thankful for all the advice I'm getting on this site. I just ordered p5p 50mg caps. How many caps do u suggest taking daily?