Test C and size gains

[Ryan201291]

Hi,
I’m not 3.5 weeks into my Test C Cycle. The strength gains are already very noticeable, and I can definitely see size gains in my shoulders and chest.
Was wondering how long until I see proper noticeable size gains though? I know my diet and macros are all up to scratch, so when did you from your own experience notice it on yourself or form other people’s comments?

Cheers

 

[Evom1]

Really comes down to the food. Not going to see much if you're at like 3500 calories. But around 5-6 weeks it starts to be notice

 

[k0rkscrew]

As you mentioned diet is key for either bulking or cutting. If you are almost 4 weeks in and noticing it then the next 8 weeks, from my experience, should be the most noticeable period if you hit the gym hard. Lots of it is up to you man! Everyone is different tho with dosage n how they react

 

[Ryan201291]

Really comes down to the food. Not going to see much if you're at like 3500 calories. But around 5-6 weeks it starts to be notice

I’m eating 3200 cals a day. My maintenance is 2800, and I know this from at least a year of experimenting. If I ate over 3500 cals, this additional calories will just be fat, as it’s impossible to gainover X amount of muscle per muscle per week, even on steroids, so I’m trying to gain as much lean mass as possible. And I’ve been told between a 300-500 surplus is the sweet point.
But cheers anyway! Hopefully it starts to be noticeable soon!

 

[Evom1]

I’m eating 3200 cals a day. My maintenance is 2800, and I know this from at least a year of experimenting. If I ate over 3500 cals, this additional calories will just be fat, as it’s impossible to gainover X amount of muscle per muscle per week, even on steroids, so I’m trying to gain as much lean mass as possible. And I’ve been told between a 300-500 surplus is the sweet point.
But cheers anyway! Hopefully it starts to be noticeable soon!

Well hey, if that works for you, so be it. But my girl bulks on 3400 calories and while no we aren't doing a dexa scan every 6 weeks, the mirror and measurements tell the story. If the training INTENSITY is there, not just heavy or high volume but intense, along with proper recovery, you will grow. Now yes if you're 140lbs you're eating enough

Let's say you go 2 weeks with no weight gain, add a couple hundred calories, every time you go 2 weeks without growth, up the calories by 200

 

[Havah]

Eat eat eat eat

 

[Mac11wildcat]

add a couple hundred calories, every time you go 2 weeks without growth, up the calories by 200

This.

Your maintenance cal level IS NOT STATIC. Eating more food for a while ups it. AAS ups it. Cardio ups it.

Add cals every couple weeks for your entire cycle so long as the mirror doesn’t show fat gain.

I can’t stress this enough.

 

[Evom1]

This

I learned this from a very wise, future Mr Olympia

 

[Big_paul]

Eat big and lift big to get big.

 

[Monstar]

This.

Your maintenance cal level IS NOT STATIC. Eating more food for a while ups it. AAS ups it. Cardio ups it.

Add cals every couple weeks for your entire cycle so long as the mirror doesn’t show fat gain.

I can’t stress this enough.

I think about this every single time someone says "my gains stop at week 8 and I can't add another pound."

Here's a genius answer: If you were eating enough to gain muscle but some magic was preventing you from putting on muscle...you would be gaining fat and moving the scale regardless each and every week.

 

[Oldschool]

 

[Test_Subject]

This.

Your maintenance cal level IS NOT STATIC. Eating more food for a while ups it. AAS ups it. Cardio ups it.

Add cals every couple weeks for your entire cycle so long as the mirror doesn’t show fat gain.

I can’t stress this enough.

Absolutely.

Another thing that a surprising amount of people fail to consider is that as your weight goes up so do your calories required to maintain.

If you start at say, 220 lbs and go up to 240, you now need to eat like a 240 lb dude just to maintain your size.

It seems pretty obvious, but a lot of people don't take that into consideration. They eat like a 220 lb guy on a slight surplus and wonder why they don't gain weight. In reality they're eating at maintenance or in a slight deficit.

 

[Jankauskas]

Glazed donuts

 

[Test_Subject]

Glazed donuts

Sour cream glazed brah. 340 calories each.

 

[cfreetenor]

The mental picture for me is this:

When you gain weight you’re a bigger human in general. So your work capacity, strength, caloric needs, and general momentum walking around are all that of a larger human than you were before. So if you’re mentally prepared to fully embrace being more man than you were 4 weeks ago (shouldn’t be hard with the extra test in your body), you should also be prepared to shuttle out that little bit of fretting about the midsection from upping your calories to higher than you’ve ever had them (which, for two solid physiological reasons alone being the extra test and extra weight, would be justified here).

 

[Oldschool]

I guess I will be the bad guy.


WHAT ARE YOUR STATS?
I looked through your posts and couldn't find them. Might help with assessing your dilemma.

 

[Jankauskas]

Sour cream glazed brah. 340 calories each.

No excuses to not gain weight bra

 

[Btcowboy]

Absolutely.

Another thing that a surprising amount of people fail to consider is that as your weight goes up so do your calories required to maintain.

If you start at say, 220 lbs and go up to 240, you now need to eat like a 240 lb dude just to maintain your size.

It seems pretty obvious, but a lot of people don't take that into consideration. They eat like a 220 lb guy on a slight surplus and wonder why they don't gain weight. In reality they're eating at maintenance or in a slight deficit.

Yup, found that out on my blast year. Dropped 2lbs in 2 weeks and was like wtf. Thought about it recalculated my TDEE and was like damn I am in a deficit. It seemed at that point every 2 weeks had to up the cals.