MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Test only cycle
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Gbro
Member
Have you made any effort to try and read anything?
Alphapharm526
New Member
Some will say my advise is over kill, but with my experience in cycling, I say its better to be safe than sorry with your body and its natural hormones. Sounds like this is your first cycle, and hopefully you will take the needed precautions.
If you havent started yet, Get your base line Bloods tested:
Testosterone serum
Estradiol
LH and FSh
^^^^ Privatemdlabs.com has a "female hormone panel" that covers all of this, and its for men to so dont let the name fool you. Its like 65$ with insurance.
Serms, HCG, and AI needed:
Adex or Aromasin ( Some Dont, but great to have if your estro sensitive )
Clomid
Nolva
HCG 5000IU
My Advise is that you need HCG to, if i where to start all over again with my first cycle i would have made sure to use HCG throughout the entire cycle.
IT MAKES PCT SOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER !!!
So I would Plan the cycle like so:
Test 250 X2 a week ( or every 4 days )
HCG 250IU with every Test Shot and shoot it Sub Q
Adex .25MG EOD or E3D (see how this works and adjust )
^^^^^ Do this for 10 weeks
Mark the date of the last shot of Test, and wait 14 days to start PCT:
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
This is the standard protocol, and some swear by it and some hate it.
I most likely missed some things cause im in a hurry but i thought i would drop some info for the first responder !!
I would suggest TRIPTORELIN as a ONE SHOT PCT but i am in the middle of experimenting with it myself, so im not 100% confident in trying to sell it to you lol
See the thread, i will be getting bloods done this friday to see how well its working.
My thread here: 2017 Triptorelin Log
If you havent started yet, Get your base line Bloods tested:
Testosterone serum
Estradiol
LH and FSh
^^^^ Privatemdlabs.com has a "female hormone panel" that covers all of this, and its for men to so dont let the name fool you. Its like 65$ with insurance.
Serms, HCG, and AI needed:
Adex or Aromasin ( Some Dont, but great to have if your estro sensitive )
Clomid
Nolva
HCG 5000IU
My Advise is that you need HCG to, if i where to start all over again with my first cycle i would have made sure to use HCG throughout the entire cycle.
IT MAKES PCT SOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER !!!
So I would Plan the cycle like so:
Test 250 X2 a week ( or every 4 days )
HCG 250IU with every Test Shot and shoot it Sub Q
Adex .25MG EOD or E3D (see how this works and adjust )
^^^^^ Do this for 10 weeks
Mark the date of the last shot of Test, and wait 14 days to start PCT:
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
This is the standard protocol, and some swear by it and some hate it.
I most likely missed some things cause im in a hurry but i thought i would drop some info for the first responder !!
I would suggest TRIPTORELIN as a ONE SHOT PCT but i am in the middle of experimenting with it myself, so im not 100% confident in trying to sell it to you lol
See the thread, i will be getting bloods done this friday to see how well its working.
My thread here: 2017 Triptorelin Log
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@Alphapharm526: Which part of your advice would be considered overkill? Specific med(s) or dosage(s)?
Why only 250mg ? If your gonna start running gear and shut yourself down anyway why not start at 500mg? And even tho you should have read this already and know it before you start a cycle you start pct 2 weeks after your last injection. Clomid and Nolvadex for 4 weeks.
Clomid 50mg first 2 weeks and 25mg last 2 weeks
Nolva 40mg first 2 weeks and 20mg last 2 weeks
I started trt @ 150mg. After a few months bumped it up to 250mg. Now recently increased to 500mg. Slow and steady. Eek out them gains at each level.
If on TRT then your correct but if he has normal or high natural test and he’s gonna shut that down I’d say just go for it and do the 500mg but there are definitely factors that would make 250mg a good idea but that’s why I started by asking him why he’s doing it
Alphapharm526
New Member
There is not one Specific part that makes it an overkill PCT, but i said that cause some think HCG throughout is over kill, which i think is the most important part.
I agree that if your going to cycle, and shut your natural self down, then you should at least do 500mg per week, so you will actually see gains. Your wasting gear and your BALLS doing just enough to shut you down.
CJames
Member
You didn't tell us about your weight, height and age. By the way, 250mg per week is so weak for noticeable gains so you gotta go 500mg per week and add a kickstarter such as Dbol or Tbol.
EcpertRealistic
Banned
I never read he said we wanted to gain 30 pounds
CJames
Member
30lb of muscles?! Then yeah, 250mg is weak to gain this amount of muscles.
AIRBORNE DADDY
Well-known Member
Thought u start PCT about a week for prop, three weeks for e or c....two weeks isn't three half lives....?
