I just got back home I will read thoroughly tomorrow and get back to you, I read through the first one a couple of days ago but will read both of them tomorrow. I’m kind of relieved that I got on the forum and asked for help thanks againDid you read all of this?
Comments/questions?
Read this too:
24 Hour TT Profiles in Young, Healthy Functional Men [1973-1983]
TLDR (great suggestion by @kazuya_mishima1): Danny and the TOT folks are mistaken to put it politely with respect to pharmacokinetics and dose response of injectable exogeneous testosterone. They act like it’s some mystery how you will respond to injectable testosterone. It really isn’t and...forums.t-nation.com
Fluctuation of TT level over the day.
Questions?
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Pct help please im i too late?
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I do have a question , so since if my regular testosterone was like 625 and let’s say my 250 mg shot was brining it up 200-300 and let’s say through the cycle I was peaking 1000 test , a month and a half later why would my testosterone tank bellow my natural level , i honestly find it really interesting how does that work why not just return to regular levels?Did you read all of this?
Comments/questions?
Read this too:
24 Hour TT Profiles in Young, Healthy Functional Men [1973-1983]
TLDR (great suggestion by @kazuya_mishima1): Danny and the TOT folks are mistaken to put it politely with respect to pharmacokinetics and dose response of injectable exogeneous testosterone. They act like it’s some mystery how you will respond to injectable testosterone. It really isn’t and...
Fluctuation of TT level over the day.
Questions?
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Tool to Assess your TT dose response --Percentile Curves
Continuing the dose response thread over here. This would be a great place to crowdsource data. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/tool-to-assess-your-tt-dose-response-percentile-curves/277628 https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/readalot-aka-tareload-introduction.134419973/post-3171563 I...
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Your use of TE (exogenous) shut down your body's ability to make its own testosterone (endogenous). Why?
So once the exogenous Test was eliminated from your body (about 3 to 4 weeks after your last injection) it takes time for the body to start making its own (sometimes the body never fully recovers). What controls this process? Familiarize yourself with the feedback loop.
Please do yourself a favor and read up on the HPTA (one of the HW items in the list I shared above for what you need to do before every touching any AAS).
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A cardiovascular event due to clomiphene and enclomiphene
Estrogen has heart-protective properties. Although clomiphene and enclomiphene don't reduce the estrogen level, they trick the body into thinking estrogen is low, by blocking the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus. Both drugs are selective (SERMs), but not 100% precisely selective, meaning...
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Read all of this and then read a few more times (2 links attached).
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Might as well sticky your thread now.
Ohhh this makes a lot more sense, but with pct I always hear it’s so Important why shouldn’t I take it in this case? (I’m not gonna take it based on your advice) but I’m just trying to understand is it because my test and LH and FSH are not low so it shows no need for pct because it’s recovering naturally? And I should do a test in 6-8 weeks to basically use this last test as a baseline to next test? Thanks again in advance I’m learning new things everydayTool to Assess your TT dose response --Percentile Curves
Continuing the dose response thread over here. This would be a great place to crowdsource data. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/tool-to-assess-your-tt-dose-response-percentile-curves/277628 https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/readalot-aka-tareload-introduction.134419973/post-3171563 I...
Your use of TE (exogenous) shut down your body's ability to make its own testosterone (endogenous). Why?
So once the exogenous Test was eliminated from your body (about 3 to 4 weeks after your last injection) it takes time for the body to start making its own (sometimes the body never fully recovers). What controls this process? Familiarize yourself with the feedback loop.
Please do yourself a favor and read up on the HPTA (one of the HW items in the list I shared above for what you need to do before every touching any AAS).
I’m reading all this and the other links tomorrow over and over until I understand it hahaA cardiovascular event due to clomiphene and enclomiphene
Estrogen has heart-protective properties. Although clomiphene and enclomiphene don't reduce the estrogen level, they trick the body into thinking estrogen is low, by blocking the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus. Both drugs are selective (SERMs), but not 100% precisely selective, meaning...
Read all of this and then read a few more times (2 links attached).
readalot
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Correct. Your LH and FSH in range and perhaps both may increase in next few weeks. Hopefully your TT will also continue improving. Let your body continue the work its doing.
Adding drugs at the issue now adds more complications. Did you buy what you thought you bought? Side effects? You are young and relatively AAS naive. You should recover pretty well and great you feel well. Your penis works? Libido?
If so, carry on. Sometimes doing nothing intervention wise is the best possible option.
Keep reading and learning. This cycle stuff really is a losing proposition IMO. Don't cycle again if you want to maintain your natural production.
I credit you with admitting you know nothing. That is the first step. Stay away from drugs and invest in your knowledge bank.
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All good points which is why the OP has no business with cycles or PCT IMO. He has no business being on TRT and hence its one step forward and one step back for him with the cycle approach.
TRT/cruise/blast makes sense if you are willing to give up your HPTA.
OP is a kid and should leave the drugs alone until he can properly give informed consent to himself.
You’re right , well I’m gonna focus on cutting fat and learning as much as I can for the next couple of months because I do plan on going on cycle again, but the proper way with bloodwork and monitoring, I meet a lot of people that do it nonchalantly and some taking 600-800 per week with no testing or anything just cycle on/pct after with no bloodwork or whatsoever, but it probably also increases their chances of health damage/risk, and I don’t want to be risking anything honestly lol because it seems like a lot can go wrong, and regarding the penis sgt Billy still works thank god
And regaurding weight loss do you happen to know anything that can help me , or anything that I can read that will help me , I’m about 210-215 trying to get to 180-190 mainly trying to lose body fat I’m around 23 percent body fat , I honestly shouldn’t have even don’t test before I lost weight lol
Well deserved on my part lol , what’s TRT/cruise/ blast is that test then leave it for a while then get back on ? I don’t understand
readalot
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Staying on Test 365.25 days per year.
Some bounce back and forth between
TRT or "TRT" and "cruise"
vs
some "cruise + blast" , etc.
100 mg/week then 250 mg/week and back.
200 mg/week then 500 mg/week and back.
Etc.
Just depends ok how big a deal you want to make with the devil.
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- Modest kcal deficit
- Weight training
- Dial in macros that work for you to minimize hunger (some do well with modified keto or PSMF).
Plenty of info out there in addition to the standard advice. For example see Duchaine's BodyOpus or Lyle McDonald's books if you want more extreme methods. Otherwise dieting is mostly will power and keeping the carbs lower.
Use drugs as last resort after you've done everything else correctly if you are going to use them at all.
You are not late. Why other people are writing some of this nervous stuff is really off. Just take the pct when you get it, you are not late.
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