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Test p vs test c and e
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MuayThayson
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People sensible to hormonal fluctuation notice this difference more.
How often do you inject?
Test e causes less fluctuations but is more estrogenic due to its genomic effects and long half life
I inject every day, even with longer esters. I would agree that I am very sensitive to fluctuations. Probably why I have found that everyday injections are best for me.
Do you feel extra water retention from long esters
It 100% does with me.
I switched to P only, about a month ago to help me make weight for a few competitions. I am much more flat.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
So if you're cruising at a dose of E or C that gives you a T level of 750, how much of a P dose would boost you to around 2000 for a day? Roughly, of course, I realize there are a lot of variables. Have some unused vials of P around here.
bigboy420
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You crash on that. I get more acne 4+ days if i dont pin.
Go on test U for once per week.
I am a low responder 320mg/week test c keeps me at about 900 TT. The numbers (2000-750) I gave in that statement came from 315 or 350 test p/week don’t remember which way I rounded. So either 45mg/day or 50mg/day. The 2000 shocked me. I would only be guessing for you.
The first time I ran test p and c together was for a test/mast/NPP trial run. I ran a TRT dose of test C and titrated the test p, mast p, and NPP.
There is also some evidence that test P doesn’t suppress the HPTA axis nearly as much. Here is a screen shot of my bloodwork with detectable FSH. I was taking hcg at the time so no LH
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Short-acting testosterone appears to have lesser effect on male reproductive potential compared to long-acting testosterone in mice - PubMed
Through a mouse breeding study, mice that received short-acting testosterone were shown to have fertility potential similar to wild-type male mice. Long-acting exogenous testosterone appeared to impair male reproductive capacity and LH levels when compared to short-acting testosterone...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Clappincheeks
Member
I know that the long ester will create more of an IGF1 boost resulting in more muscle growth over the longer term. There have been studies on it. I will try to look for them
With more nitrogen retention and estrogen it’s considered more anabolic compared to short ester test. I’ll still take test p over test e and use Tren for the igf benefits
Hey @LGOP528 were you running something to lower SHBG when these were run? When I get TTup in that range my SHGB goes way up, so curious.There is also some evidence that test P doesn’t suppress the HPTA axis nearly as much. Here is a screen shot of my bloodwork with detectable FSH. I was taking hcg at the time so no LH
Short-acting testosterone appears to have lesser effect on male reproductive potential compared to long-acting testosterone in mice - PubMed
Through a mouse breeding study, mice that received short-acting testosterone were shown to have fertility potential similar to wild-type male mice. Long-acting exogenous testosterone appeared to impair male reproductive capacity and LH levels when compared to short-acting testosterone...
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I just looked back to my original post asking about the FSH and I was taking 10-20mg/day var. I have never heard of SHGB going up with higher test? Mine has always been low.
Maybe it's a timing thing. I do bloods 6 weeks after a change. When I increase TT, at 6 weeks my SHGB is up and ratio of FT to TT is down. Maybe its transient though.
OmL
Well-known Member
Man I don’t recognise anyone in here.
Estrogen plays a big roll.
OmL
Well-known Member
Don’t try learn from me anyway. I ruined my life.
