Test prop/Winny

[luex]

Hey guys just seeing what you think of this cycle...Point of the cycle would be to make me look harder and more vascular...not so much looking to add mass at this point, wouldn't be against it though, more looking to slim down and reveal what I got so far.
1-8 Test prop 100mg EOD
4-8 Winny ED
9-10 50mg Clomid ED
11-12 25mg Clomid ED
9-12 Toremifene citrate 20mg ED ------Not 100% sure on this...never used it for a PCT so any advice on it would be awesome!
-Stats-
21
Been lifting for a few years
190lbs
10%bf
6'2
Bench max-275x1
Squat-315 x5
Deadlift max-495x1

 

[c_natty]

Hey guys just seeing what you think of this cycle...Point of the cycle would be to make me look harder and more vascular...not so much looking to add mass at this point, wouldn't be against it though, more looking to slim down and reveal what I got so far.
1-8 Test prop 100mg EOD
4-8 Winny ED
9-10 50mg Clomid ED
11-12 25mg Clomid ED
9-12 Toremifene citrate 20mg ED ------Not 100% sure on this...never used it for a PCT so any advice on it would be awesome!
-Stats-
21
Been lifting for a few years
190lbs
10%bf
6'2
Bench max-275x1
Squat-315 x5
Deadlift max-495x1

obviously 21 is too young but the cycle layout seems fine. i would look into PCT a little further. bloods before/after.

doesn't make sense that you are 10% and want to "slim down"

makes me think you are not 10% bf. in that case, 6'2" 190 and anywhere above contest lean makes me believe that you are short on muscle mass. with that said, i think you should lean down FIRST before cycling, since you are going to do it anyways. cutting on AAS while not too muscular to begin with seems like a waste IMO.

 

[fightandorflight]

Like everyone will say, wait til you have thoroughly milked your natty potential before taking the leap.

Regarding the cycle, wait another week after last pin to pct. Bloods pre cycle for baseline are a must

 

[luex]

I carry a lot of fat on my stomach...abs are visible but not popping how I want. I'm very lean everywhere else so it's difficult for me to say % more realistically I would say probably 15% just looking at my stomach area..I know 21 seems young but this is all I've been focused on the past couple years and all I think about. Extremely passionate for lifting and I want to put both feet in the water and reach my best potential. I do plan on doing as much research as possible before making any moves and will be sure of every step I take in the process before moving forward.

 

[fightandorflight]

I carry a lot of fat on my stomach...abs are visible but not popping how I want. I'm very lean everywhere else so it's difficult for me to say % more realistically I would say probably 15% just looking at my stomach area..I know 21 seems young but this is all I've been focused on the past couple years and all I think about. Extremely passionate for lifting and I want to put both feet in the water and reach my best potential. I do plan on doing as much research as possible before making any moves and will be sure of every step I take in the process before moving forward.

Wish you the best bro. Patience is a virtue

 

[Evom1]

10% vs 15% is a big difference. How about posting a pic?

Also you could get shredded in 8 weeks without gear, then not only reverse diet your way out of it and grow like a weed naturally but if your heart is set on a cycle THIS would be the time to do it, not before the cut. Would you rather waste your first cycle and end up a good old 175lbs?or cut down there naturally, and then come back at 190-200lbs lean?

 

[luex]

not sure what body% this is...I just don't have my abs popping at all.

 

[luex]

 

[luex]

Bumpppp anyone?