If gear usage and any other usage is anything like the way you are doin the HGH .
How would you ever make any sense of it?
any change in any of these things can tipp that IGF-1 score in any direction.
Where am I from? wat matter that make?
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Testing IGF-1 levels on Black Top Meditrope
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How would you ever make any sense of it?
any change in any of these things can tipp that IGF-1 score in any direction.
Where am I from? wat matter that make?
DickySmalls
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It doesn't matter. I'm just curious is all.
explorerspl
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I'll be doing an igf test on these next week after doing half a vial a day for 2 weeks. Hoping for 600ish igf level
theDynamiteKid
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theDynamiteKid
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There are other factors to consider besides just the total GH injected, as it will not always be a linear relationship to your level of IGF-1... your own body's counter measures against the GH such as binding proteins for example... I cannot explain the complex science behind it, but I do have a friend that is a high level competitor, and he found his IGF-1 levels almost the same when running 15ius of PHARMA (genotropin) DAILY to when he was running only 8 iu's THREE TIMES WEEKLY of a good generic! He has explained to me that some people will actually respond better to a lower dose or less frequent dosing protocol because of their own particular bio-chemistry and the way their body converts GH or fights against it..... really trial and error is the only way to figure what works best for you but part of that process is testing your IGF levels.... of course with generic inherently the consistency will always be more questionable than with pharm grade, but I just thought I would point out that many factors could explain a less than expected IGF score... I wish I could explain it better but take that for what it's worth. Your body may start to fight more aggressively against conversion past a certain dose, I'm just saying it's a possibility.
I was really surprised when he first was explaining to me similar IGF scores between his two different protocols
I was really surprised when he first was explaining to me similar IGF scores between his two different protocols
theDynamiteKid
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I also saw you had tried ~ 3.5 iu/daily, 10iu one dose daily , and then 4iu ×2 daily.
Maybe you could consider trying 10 iu 3 times weekly, or 2 iu x3 or x4 daily and seeing what possible effect that would have on your igf levels.
Due to individual biological differences, you cannot rule out a dosing strategy... I guess what I'm saying is just because someone else did not notice a difference between dosing a full dosage or split dosing does not mean that that will always be applicable to someone else.
For example, although I previously mentioned my friend who had found the 3 times weekly protocol was optimal for him, I also have another friend who did not get any benefit to that protocol , and noticed much more optimal results with everyday doses split Am/Pm....
Maybe you could consider trying 10 iu 3 times weekly, or 2 iu x3 or x4 daily and seeing what possible effect that would have on your igf levels.
Due to individual biological differences, you cannot rule out a dosing strategy... I guess what I'm saying is just because someone else did not notice a difference between dosing a full dosage or split dosing does not mean that that will always be applicable to someone else.
For example, although I previously mentioned my friend who had found the 3 times weekly protocol was optimal for him, I also have another friend who did not get any benefit to that protocol , and noticed much more optimal results with everyday doses split Am/Pm....
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Roco Bama
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Someone else got bad igf score on the blacktop and he was also running accutane. Were you taking all that orals with the 10iu hgh experiment ? how about you drop all the orals except t3 now and wait 2 -4 weeks to draw bloods again
buck is then pro muscle hgh apologist shill, ignore him
DickySmalls
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I posted this before:
Not sure how much it would apply to people taking HGH endogenously though. But it's strange my values on 8 IU ED (split) were nearly the same on 10 IU ED (at once). Shouldn't I be getting higher values with a split dose, even if it's 8 IU vs 10 IU, since supposedly 10 IU is too much at one time for the body (i.e. diminished IGF-1 returns as the body would only be able to process n IU at a time). Idk. REALLY curious what 4 IU ED is going to net me. If it's 400+, then how would that make sense?
DickySmalls
Member
Doing another test this weekend to see my IGF-1 on 4 IU ED. @mands you ever get yours tested?
I haven't and I'm sorry about that. I have had a lot on my plate and I'm not running anything right now. I will be running something soon. I will start tomorrow or Monday.
Here is my run. I'm trying to hit the 300 lbs mark while losing about 2% bf.
Test Cyp. 600mg a week (I might push it to 750mg).
NPP 400mg a week.
Dbol first 4 weeks 25mg every day pre-workout.
Week 8 start GH 5 iu's nightly into my cruise. I will probably run for 12 weeks at least.
aromasin weeks 4-12 weeks 25mg every day.
So I will get labs in my 11th week. If I start earlier I will let everyone know.
mands
So would even a low dose of any ghg, be helpful?
Also which HGH doesnt hypotheticaly shut down HGH pituitary prodyuction?
Also which HGH doesnt hypotheticaly shut down HGH pituitary prodyuction?
I'm guessing you are asking about hgh not ghg?
helpful for what?There is not a certain brand that you can take that won't interfere with your natural production.
mands
CherryChillin
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Late to the party and I apologize as I'm sure this was asked before.
But, can someone please give an explanation of how am igf test is accurate for determining efficacy of growth hormone, could they not just spike it with cheap igf lr3?
But, can someone please give an explanation of how am igf test is accurate for determining efficacy of growth hormone, could they not just spike it with cheap igf lr3?
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DickySmalls
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Forgot about you guys but my 4 IU ED results came in... 334:
yes i meant hgh. I was talking about fat loss.I'm guessing you are asking about hgh not ghg?
There is not a certain brand that you can take that won't interfere with your natural production.
mands
I think a therapeutic doses are very helpful. Especially if you are low to low-normal range.
mands
CherryChillin
Banned
Guys, would a gh serum test not be more accurate, can't they just use cheap igf and give fake product? Imo side effects and igf are not accurate measures of product legitimacy, testing for actual gh would be
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