Testosterone and Collagen

[theredkeys]

I’ve been researching this for a year and I still can’t find an answer.

If someone runs high testosterone, say around a gram a week, some people say:

1- Super-physiological Test levels impair collagen production, which is why it’s a good idea to combine high Test with collagen improving compounds like Primo or Anavar.

2- Other say, no, High Test is actually beneficial for collagen production, but the impairment only comes from the use of aromatase inhibitors.

3- Other say, no, A.I.s don’t impair collagen production, just their overuse, which crashes E2.

I’m really struggling to find out the truth about this. Any insights are kindly appreciated.

 

[MrCloud]

I'm not an expert at all, but for the sake of the discussion why does this collagen factor even matter for you? And how important is the supposed change compared to other factors about this collagen ?

I personally keep it simple, I don't need to run a gram of test, and I take as few compounds as I can, which is test and an A.I and the occasional oral pre workout.

Science is important but it's not everything and you will get lost trying to make sense of something so complex without having a phd

Osteogenesis imperfecta - Wikipedia

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Type I collagen - Wikipedia

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I found some links on this topic read thru them and enjoy the rabbit hole, personally I don't bother optimizing anything related to collagen

 

[SenorSuperdrol]

Did you read @Type-IIx article on this?

Anabolic Steroids and Growth Hormone: Their Impact on Bones, Tendons, Ligaments, and Joints

Learn how anabolic steroids and human growth hormone (RhGH) affect bones, tendons, ligaments, and joints, focusing on collagen metabolism.

thinksteroids.com

 

[Georgetrenson]

Across Deca, Primo, Mast, & Test, I can attest that testosterone is definitely the worst of the compounds in regard to making you look older / uglier, which probably has something to do w/ its effect on collagen; I'd certainly supplement w/ it if you're gonna blast it.

I assume this is your ultimate concern, so take this for what you will

 

[ThinBulk]

Across Deca, Primo, Mast, & Test, I can attest that testosterone is definitely the worst of the compounds in regard to making you look older / uglier, which probably has something to do w/ its effect on collagen; I'd certainly supplement w/ it if you're gonna blast it.

I assume this is your ultimate concern, so take this for what you will

You can't suppliment collagen if your body isnt producing it. Eating it doesn't contribute much.

 

[ComancheChief]

Across Deca, Primo, Mast, & Test, I can attest that testosterone is definitely the worst of the compounds in regard to making you look older / uglier, which probably has something to do w/ its effect on collagen; I'd certainly supplement w/ it if you're gonna blast it.

I assume this is your ultimate concern, so take this for what you will

I second this, I even made a thread concerning this issue. I took a picture of my face a few days ago and compared it to one in 2022 and the difference is staggering. My old pic was me on trt dose and recent one is me on high test and AI. It temporarily gives a rough aged complexion. Both pics are under same exact lighting as well.

It’s a huge wake up call and I’m going back down to trt dose asap.