Testosterone and Size

How much experience do you have with human grade gear? Be honest please.
Apologies for the delay.... I am prescribed "human grade USP" for testosterone, HGH, (for a while B complexes too), and of course my AI's (have used both Letro and Adex).

UGL HGH aside (sourcing is such a bitch for that shit) the stuff is literally identical to the UGL sourced Test and AI.

It is the same 49 atoms (for Test) with an ester tagged on (or not) in a carrier oil dude... There is no DNA, RNA, or anything complicated here.

"human grade" hormones are just plain old fashioned marketing the same as advertising for the B complex injectables is...

It is the same shit they sell in the veterinary bottles.

Bottle of B complex "meant" for horses and other livestock? $30 for .5L (yes a fucking liter), Human grade B complex in the same exact proportions from my hormone doc? $90 a 10ml bottle. The biggest difference is that the vet grade stuff has just a hair solvent in the mix. Gives it a bit more PIP.


Marketing.
 
Apologies for the delay.... I am prescribed "human grade USP" for testosterone, HGH, (for a while B complexes too), and of course my AI's (have used both Letro and Adex).

UGL HGH aside (sourcing is such a bitch for that shit) the stuff is literally identical to the UGL sourced Test and AI.

It is the same 49 atoms (for Test) with an ester tagged on (or not) in a carrier oil dude... There is no DNA, RNA, or anything complicated here.

"human grade" hormones are just plain old fashioned marketing the same as advertising for the B complex injectables is...

It is the same shit they sell in the veterinary bottles.

Bottle of B complex "meant" for horses and other livestock? $30 for .5L (yes a fucking liter), Human grade B complex in the same exact proportions from my hormone doc? $90 a 10ml bottle. The biggest difference is that the vet grade stuff has just a hair solvent in the mix. Gives it a bit more PIP.


Marketing.
What does your hgh scrip cost you if you dont mind sharing?
 
The only difference is mostly on heavy metals, some ugl are real shit for this, pharma of course has higher standard of safety.

But the efficacy if both have the same dosage it's the same, and I have tried many pharma AAS. Testosterone E and P, Deca, winstrol, clen etc.

Difference was None.

Heavy metals? There was a thread in here a couple years back that discussed this. No heavy metals - it’s a myth. How would heavy metals get into the raws? They aren’t part of the manufacturing process.

AnabolicLab originally tested for heavy metals. Scroll back to the first tests. Nothing found.

Jano weighed in because he use to offer heavy metal analyses but people stopped looking for that because heavy metals were never detected.
 
Heavy metals? There was a thread in here a couple years back that discussed this. No heavy metals - it’s a myth. How would heavy metals get into the raws? They aren’t part of the manufacturing process.

AnabolicLab originally tested for heavy metals. Scroll back to the first tests. Nothing found.

Jano weighed in because he use to offer heavy metal analyses but people stopped looking for that because heavy metals were never detected.
I was not aware of this. Thank you for sharing it.

Supposedly testing some years back revealed heavy metals. The thinking was not that heavy metals were used in the process, but that Chinese manufacturers had other productions using heavy metals that cross contaminated the raw powders being manufactured for orders at the same facility - that is, it was not used solely for sourcing raw steroid powders, but any chemical concoction a customer desired.

As I recall, it was very wide spread, but this was quite some time ago.
 
I was not aware of this. Thank you for sharing it.

Supposedly testing some years back revealed heavy metals. The thinking was not that heavy metals were used in the process, but that Chinese manufacturers had other productions using heavy metals that cross contaminated the raw powders being manufactured for orders at the same facility - that is, it was not used solely for sourcing raw steroid powders, but any chemical concoction a customer desired.

As I recall, it was very wide spread, but this was quite some time ago.
I remember the documentary under construction where the guy had high level of heavy metal in the body due to massive use it ugl gear.
 
I was not aware of this. Thank you for sharing it.

Supposedly testing some years back revealed heavy metals. The thinking was not that heavy metals were used in the process, but that Chinese manufacturers had other productions using heavy metals that cross contaminated the raw powders being manufactured for orders at the same facility - that is, it was not used solely for sourcing raw steroid powders, but any chemical concoction a customer desired.

As I recall, it was very wide spread, but this was quite some time ago.

I’m sure Jano has the equipment to run metals analysis.

If not, that’s an easy one to get done domestically. Just send a sample to a lab to run it. They’ll have zero idea that it’s steroids because metals isn’t run by HCLP and it’s very unlikely that they have the standards for steroids.
 
Heavy metals? There was a thread in here a couple years back that discussed this. No heavy metals - it’s a myth. How would heavy metals get into the raws? They aren’t part of the manufacturing process.






If heavy metals can find there way into baby formula and rice I'm pretty fucking sure they can find their way into steroid raws. Just because it's not part of the process doesn't mean people won't skimp out on safety and or cut corners somehow. Trusting Chinese manufacturers with our health is about the dumbest fucking thing any of us can do! CHINA DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
 





If heavy metals can find there way into baby formula and rice I'm pretty fucking sure they can find their way into steroid raws. Just because it's not part of the process doesn't mean people won't skimp out on safety and or cut corners somehow. Trusting Chinese manufacturers with our health is about the dumbest fucking thing any of us can do! CHINA DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
I really don’t think BigBald was suggesting to trust anyone but yourself with your health. Yes foreign debri - metals - contamination can find their way into a lot of different goods, items and materials. Yet what he is referring to is a period of time where it was standard train of thought on the boards that heavy metal contamination was indeed in all raws - period. Vs now where it is seen as simply a possibility just like it is with anything else.

Anyone worried about heavy metals or any other contaminates should be focused on solely using pharma - human grade AAS & HGH (This also means no Tren use.)
 
I really don’t think BigBald was suggesting to trust anyone but yourself with your health. Yes foreign debri - metals - contamination can find their way into a lot of different goods, items and materials. Yet what he is referring to is a period of time where it was standard train of thought on the boards that heavy metal contamination was indeed in all raws - period. Vs now where it is seen as simply a possibility just like it is with anything else.

Anyone worried about heavy metals or any other contaminates should be focused on solely using pharma - human grade AAS & HGH (This also means no Tren use.)

I was just pointing it out is all.
 





If heavy metals can find there way into baby formula and rice I'm pretty fucking sure they can find their way into steroid raws. Just because it's not part of the process doesn't mean people won't skimp out on safety and or cut corners somehow. Trusting Chinese manufacturers with our health is about the dumbest fucking thing any of us can do! CHINA DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!

I was only pointing out that AnabolicLab use to test for it and it was NEVER detected. And Jano use to offer metals testing but people stopped requesting the analysis because nothing was detected.

Heavy metals are in our foods because they’re in pesticides. I know China was still using metals in paints and plastics.

And yea, I totally agree that China does NOT give a fuck about us. They are greedy little bastards.

Shit, it looks like Jano was just talking about this yesterday.

 
Have you found the upper limit for yourself where increasing the dosage of testosterone added sides but no additional growth?

I haven't found that yet for myself, but I haven't tried.
What’s the highest you have pushed your test?

I personally have never ran over 700mgs, that was years ago. Nowadays typically I run 400-500 on blast with other compounds.
 
What’s the highest you have pushed your test?

I personally have never ran over 700mgs, that was years ago. Nowadays typically I run 400-500 on blast with other compounds.
Right now. It is at 1000mg, but I just recently increased it from 750.

I have never felt like I needed that much before. I am not very big like some of the bodybuilders on this site. I am at 240, and this is the biggest I have ever been, and I am trying to push it a little further, so long as I can continue to get the food in.
 
I really don’t think BigBald was suggesting to trust anyone but yourself with your health. Yes foreign debri - metals - contamination can find their way into a lot of different goods, items and materials. Yet what he is referring to is a period of time where it was standard train of thought on the boards that heavy metal contamination was indeed in all raws - period. Vs now where it is seen as simply a possibility just like it is with anything else.

Anyone worried about heavy metals or any other contaminates should be focused on solely using pharma - human grade AAS & HGH (This also means no Tren use.)
Its been a year and im still wondering who that fine bitch is on your avatar.
 
Right now. It is at 1000mg, but I just recently increased it from 750.

I have never felt like I needed that much before. I am not very big like some of the bodybuilders on this site. I am at 240, and this is the biggest I have ever been, and I am trying to push it a little further, so long as I can continue to get the food in.
How long you been at 750? Any sides? Your running and AI?
 
How long you been at 750? Any sides? Your running and AI?
How long? - About 10 weeks.

Any sides? - LOL! Like screaming at my mom (joke about after school special with football kid takes steroids).

Running an AI? - No, although I took one this morning, aromasin 25. I might take it 2-3x a week from here on out. My nipples were a little itchy. Last blood test estradiol was only 31 pg/mL (which is only ever so slightly high on a normal reference range, which goes up to 29).
 
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