Ferenor
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Split the pills so that you don't get that many fluctuations
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Anabolic Steroids
Testosterone and Size
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I'll take 12,5mg ED if you plan to take aromasin 25mg X3 a week. Aromasin is best used ED for what I remember (long time I don't use it) compared to arimidex that can be dosed easily eod or E3D
Bulldog413
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I have really anything over 600 I just feel like genuine shit. I notice one time I was running 750, felt like I’ve been hit by a truck the whole time and performance suffered. Backed to 600, felt way better and lifts went up.
malfeasance
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These are pharma, tiny, and no real way to split them up.
Ferenor
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I had pharma asin too (Pfizer) and used a pill cutter x)
malfeasance
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Pfizer are like little tiny white beads, right? You can cut those?
Ferenor
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Yes, and with a pill cutter, yes too.
Ferenor
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I cut mine with a pill splitter too. Just need to line the little fuckers up properly but it’s easy enough to do.
AlwaysHungry
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You can take aromasin with no schedule, is suicidal AI. That means y take aromasin bye bye estrogen for ever you kill them.
So you dose it according to the rate you aromatise
You can even pop a pill every month or so
For me at 1g testosterone and little more.
I dose it after 5th week a quarter of pill every time I inject test.
So for 1g (4 injections) is a full pill every week divided in 4 pieces .
On a cruise I pop 1 full 25mg pill when I feel I need it every 2nd-3rd week or so.
So you dose it according to the rate you aromatise
You can even pop a pill every month or so
For me at 1g testosterone and little more.
I dose it after 5th week a quarter of pill every time I inject test.
So for 1g (4 injections) is a full pill every week divided in 4 pieces .
On a cruise I pop 1 full 25mg pill when I feel I need it every 2nd-3rd week or so.
You can split in half, I have done it many times with pharma Asin. Just cut it with a sharp knife or the pill splitter they suggested you, even easier with that one.
I discontinued it 2 years+ ago due to the expense honestly. IIR it was running me over $600 a month.
superbane
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For the life of me I can not find those guys talking dosages on any of the podcasts.
if you happen to remember which ones they have that conversation in I sure would appreciate it.
Fouad is pretty honest about his dosages.I have heard him several times on podcasts.Did you check the one with Broderick Chavez?That might be one of them.Not sure if you at pro muscle but there is a thread by a member Luki and he is straightforward with dosages.
I will try to do a short cycle with test cyp (2,4 gr) trembolone ace (350 mg) and test base x 2-3 day a week on weak muscles pre workout. For 6 weeks. Is the first time that I will do a high dosage of testosterone.
Anyone have experiences with short cycles? And with very high dose of test?
I will bulk up post dnp
Anyone have experiences with short cycles? And with very high dose of test?
I will bulk up post dnp
malfeasance
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I started at the beginning (first podcast) and have been listening all the way through, and it has been discussed multiple times. I can't remember exactly which podcasts. Both have been honest in saying that they have gone much higher but found diminishing returns/greater sides. Also, this is just testosterone. They have both been clear that other things were on top of that.
It is not a show just to discuss dosages. It just comes out in discussion from time to time, in the middle of unrelated stupid crap.
Seth Feroce - same. He does not normally "discuss" steroids, but the stuff he lets slip out when he is on a roll is priceless.
I could listen to Fouad or Seth talk about gear all day.
Seth fucking cracks me up
Hes a straight shooter and then some
My brother runs 200-400mg of test with 4iu Serostim year round and is 290. He used to compete, but hasn’t for 4 years. Won every show he entered as heavyweight or super heavy except junior nationals. He does everything right as far as training and nutrition, excellent genetics, responds very well to drugs, etc. Once the size is there it’s easy to maintain with low dosages IMO. Obviously more compounds are used precontest, but that is his standard dosage year round not competing.
As I understand the question, it is can you be "natty" massive while being on low test, and my idea is that you dont have to have much testosterone to be naturally massive. Some would argue that is genetics, but in my own example, and seeing other men around me, I would say that there is some combination of hormones when ratios just match and you suddenly are very virile, muscular, attratctive, horny and proactive.
It may sound funny here, but 25mg clomiphene made changed me dramatically, and my max test levels were 23nmo/l at that time. So, no, I dont think high testosterone is the key to being a "muscular natural guy". But somehow that state where stuff just falls into place is very hard to recreate artificially (maybe there is a very narrow window of E2, T, DHT concentrations so without an internal "hormonostat" that is no easy feat?), so using higher dosages of testosterone does the trick via some alternative pathway.
For me, using trt solo test doesn't do any trick, in fact I loose mass, be my levels 20 nmol/l or 60 nmol/l. The next best thing is masteron: test 1:1 mass ratio, where I feel sharp and muscles a bit bigger but far cry from muscular guy. I am plannig to try primabolan instead of mast, and DHT on that line of therapy. I plan on incorporating nandrolone to see what it looks like too.
Just a remark, when I started eq and started dropping masterone I felt really good for a short time and it was definitely going in the direction of virile, muscular, attractive, horny and proactive. That was a transient period so the effect vanished, but it left me with question is there some possibilty in combining mast and eq to match test and to accomplish the natty muscular physique that way?
It may sound funny here, but 25mg clomiphene made changed me dramatically, and my max test levels were 23nmo/l at that time. So, no, I dont think high testosterone is the key to being a "muscular natural guy". But somehow that state where stuff just falls into place is very hard to recreate artificially (maybe there is a very narrow window of E2, T, DHT concentrations so without an internal "hormonostat" that is no easy feat?), so using higher dosages of testosterone does the trick via some alternative pathway.
For me, using trt solo test doesn't do any trick, in fact I loose mass, be my levels 20 nmol/l or 60 nmol/l. The next best thing is masteron: test 1:1 mass ratio, where I feel sharp and muscles a bit bigger but far cry from muscular guy. I am plannig to try primabolan instead of mast, and DHT on that line of therapy. I plan on incorporating nandrolone to see what it looks like too.
Just a remark, when I started eq and started dropping masterone I felt really good for a short time and it was definitely going in the direction of virile, muscular, attractive, horny and proactive. That was a transient period so the effect vanished, but it left me with question is there some possibilty in combining mast and eq to match test and to accomplish the natty muscular physique that way?
Exactly,you can maintain a decent amount of size but to gain alot of size you will need a decent amount of test etc.Also major amounts of food and willing to gain some fat.
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