The Controlled Delivery Thread Opened Some Doors...

[smiles]

Sure...if I can save others by teaching using my mistakes then I feel I'm serving a purpose!

That statement right there is what everyone should live by and or hopes.. All it takes to make it like that is project that type of thinking it can be a pain in the ass nevertheless it is benign all for everyone As well as your self instead of just yourself... Living in America, or any contry for that matter, dealing with all the bullshit is detrimental to ones safty, the old persona of letting the younger generation figure it out is very detrimental to our soical problems we are trying to fix... I look at that way of thinking like, would you give a steak to a lion than punch his teeth out and say have fun trying to figure out how to eat that motherfucker??? Lol No cause it's not right and they don't have thumbs... Lol

 

[ackrug]

Really makes you wonder. A new guy started at my job last month and is ex LE keeps making jokes about starting to juice and everytime he asks me if i know anywhere its always "naaaaa i dont do needles" i keep thinking that he knows something like he quit and started working with me just weasel his way in. My buddy a fellow user keeps telling me im paranoid....i always respond with keep your fucking mouth shut bro because even if he was just looking for personal use if he got pop'd by his old le buddies hes not guna think over a second before rolling on you. Once a cop always a cop. Thanks for the tips bro! @bigrobbie

 

[ebkallday]

Really makes you wonder. A new guy started at my job last month and is ex LE keeps making jokes about starting to juice and everytime he asks me if i know anywhere its always "naaaaa i dont do needles" i keep thinking that he knows something like he quit and started working with me just weasel his way in. My buddy a fellow user keeps telling me im paranoid....i always respond with keep your fucking mouth shut bro because even if he was just looking for personal use if he got pop'd by his old le buddies hes not guna think over a second before rolling on you. Once a cop always a cop. Thanks for the tips bro! @bigrobbie

Exactly. You don't know him, don't trust him, fuck him.

 

[bigrobbie]

@ackrug

you are not being paranoid bro...there is something called a 6th sense, or intuition!

Usually this "feeling" is something you should take seriously! LE is always looking to fuck someone's life up.

Your response is the right one....deny, deny, deny! Your life using AAS is to remain a private and secret thing!

 

[bigrobbie]

Exactly. You don't know him, don't trust him, fuck him.

so very true....even people you know can surprise you! And that means you Billy! (the fuck who screwed me!) LOL! For a guy who thinks he's huge he sure was terrified of jail...pussy is his new name!

 

[MindlessWork]

Hey bigrobbie, that sure must been one hell of an experience you had and thanks for sharing this with us. Your story should be one warning the newbies to the game need to read and heed. This surely is one dangerous game to be playing.

 

[bigrobbie]

Thanks for the support, even though it happened a long time ago it should still never be forgotten.

I always hoped this post would be moved as a sticky...i believe it's that vitality important people understand how something like that can happen to anyone

 

[Colt44]

This is why some of us aren't as active these days. Headed back to peeking out of the blinds if you need me.

 

[bigrobbie]

@Colt44

ha...I bet they aren't out there bro...

 

[Colt44]

@Colt44

ha...I bet they aren't out there bro...

Lol. You're probably right. But you can bet your ass I'm not receiving any packages any time soon...

 

[bigrobbie]

Just find a small well referenced domestic source who uses usps priority and u should be gtg. Domestic packs can only be opened by LE with a warrant

 

[Ahmad90]

How arent guys like Bostin Loyd or Rich piana in jail??? Im very confused bostin talks about massive amounts of gear use and tells young people what to use. He straight up charges people for making cycles for them wtf. He must have a good lawyer or some shit. This is outrageous how people using AAS for personal use are thrown in jail, Ronnie Jay and many IFBB pros have straight
up admitted steroids and some even talk about everything they take. I bet if DEA agents break into the house of MLB and NFL players, 1/3 will have AAS in their house. Every single IFBB pro will have it in their house too. All these pro level trainers will have it too. Yet they dont knock down their doors and put them in cuffs. I dont get it, would the cops rather have people lie about AAS cycles and have the public guess that pros are using 3 grams of hormones a week and then copy those outrageous cycles, or would they rather have people admit it and then everyone will know it doesnt take high doses and abusement of AAS to be good. I know i was happy when i heard that Lee Priest, Dorian and a few other IFBB/NPC dudes took very low doses but still got good gains. After reading those cycles i was more than happy to run lower doses.

 

[Wunderpus]

How arent guys like Bostin Loyd or Rich piana in jail??? Im very confused bostin talks about massive amounts of gear use and tells young people what to use. He straight up charges people for making cycles for them wtf. He must have a good lawyer or some shit. This is outrageous how people using AAS for personal use are thrown in jail, Ronnie Jay and many IFBB pros have straight
up admitted steroids and some even talk about everything they take. I bet if DEA agents break into the house of MLB and NFL players, 1/3 will have AAS in their house. Every single IFBB pro will have it in their house too. All these pro level trainers will have it too. Yet they dont knock down their doors and put them in cuffs. I dont get it, would the cops rather have people lie about AAS cycles and have the public guess that pros are using 3 grams of hormones a week and then copy those outrageous cycles, or would they rather have people admit it and then everyone will know it doesnt take high doses and abusement of AAS to be good. I know i was happy when i heard that Lee Priest, Dorian and a few other IFBB/NPC dudes took very low doses but still got good gains. After reading those cycles i was more than happy to run lower doses.

Ask this guy-

 

[bigrobbie]

I think we (as a community) really need to place more emphasis on AAS use recovery. Hormone imbalances and sexual dysfunctions as a result of improper recovery education is a problem needing a remedy...stat!

I can instruct anyone on any number of cycles, but reversing the negative feedback isn't so "cut and dry!"

We MUST preach proper time on/time off and more importantly we must be educated and outspoken on PCT and medical follow up (ie: Blood work, cholesterol #'s, etc...).

Just telling someone 4 weeks nolvadex and hcg on cycle isn't sufficient! Estrogen rebound and mental health issues like depression must be at the forefront!

Giving advise comes with responsibility and if you are going to instruct on enhancement you damn well better be capable of instructing on recovery! Please veterans...use your knowledge responsibly.

 

[heady muscle]

@bigrobbie
thanks for posting that and man, sorry you had to go through that shit. I don't understand Narc's or anything like that. But then again, I don't understand why AAS is so under the gun by LE.

These are sad days in this country. Thanks again man.

 

[D-Ballin]

Thanks for sharing bigrobbie.

This was a good bump. There are a lot people who need to read this. The camaraderie and joviality ont these communities can make it easy to forget the nature of this beast.

Coming from the other side of the black market (in the past), I find this world to be a funny dichotomy. A lot of these bros are just way too wholesome to be involved in the underground. Sheltered from the reality of the game. And that's a good thing! Because it's an ugly ass game for sure. But it leads to tragic situations that snowball quick!

Don't ever forget, fledgling iron junkies. You are dealing with serious people, and serious charges. The black market is nothing to take lightly. And as bad as LE can be, there are worse things in this world, even if we don't see as much of it with these drugs as you do others.

Know your rights. And know that this is not a game to be played flippantly. Serious business here folks. Stay safe, keep quiet, and don't play if you can't pay.

 

[bigrobbie]

@D-Ballin :

That was a brilliant post bro. Demand outweighing supply as it does it only stands to reason opportunists will always be lined up for their chance to profit. When this happens you see dangerous people and I think the reality of that is lost on many people.

 

[fofo]

Thanks for this bigrobbie.
Just a quick question, do controlled deliveries happen in the UK? Possession for personal use of aas is legal in the UK, but mail ordering is illegal.

 

[MindlessWork]

Thanks for this bigrobbie.
Just a quick question, do controlled deliveries happen in the UK? Possession for personal use of aas is legal in the UK, but mail ordering is illegal.

Not sure of the law in the UK but if the authorities suspect large amounts of gear being ordered online they could possibly intercept a pack and execute a controlled delivery most likely under court order. Here in the USA that is pretty much what le would do here.

 

[Switcher]

Coming from the other side of the black market (in the past), I find this world to be a funny dichotomy. A lot of these bros are just way too wholesome to be involved in the underground. Sheltered from the reality of the game. And that's a good thing! Because it's an ugly ass game for sure. But it leads to tragic situations that snowball quick!

Don't ever forget, fledgling iron junkies. You are dealing with serious people, and serious charges. The black market is nothing to take lightly. And as bad as LE can be, there are worse things in this world, even if we don't see as much of it with these drugs as you do others.

Know your rights. And know that this is not a game to be played flippantly. Serious business here folks. Stay safe, keep quiet, and don't play if you can't pay.

If a post could be stickied or starred or somehow otherwise singled out so every person that ever visits this forum saw it first, this is it.

I am sure a lot of us old timers have some stories about back in the day. Having seen the other side as well, yeah, this is the most important post to read and remember. This is why the culture at Meso is so important.