The Lobster International, US and EU Domestic HGH, PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy

[Enjoythements]

LOL.

Don't forget to ask Jano to test immediately after reconstitution, and then a couple of weeks after, exposing it to room temps for some amount of time to simulate real world use

If we're simulating real world use, who would leave a reconstituted vial sitting for weeks?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If we're simulating real world use, who would leave a reconstituted vial sitting for weeks?

So degradation will show...

 

[Ateam2023]

i've never left a vial of hgh out at room temperature,,

 

[Standfast]

I'm currently running his 50iu vials with no vaccum, TB, tirzepatide and Bpc no vacuum as well.

 

[FastBun]

I contacted @TheLobster about a refund. He wants me to ship the unused vials to some address and then he will refund. I will just do my own testing on these vials and report back. They are currently stored in the refrigerator. I have some other hgh I have been using; I was just excited to try some of what I assumed would be better quality. We shall see.

No one going to address the vendor wanting the customer to ship something to a receivers address??? Tf…. Yall ok with this???

 

[TheLobster]

No one going to address the vendor wanting the customer to ship something to a receivers address??? Tf…. Yall ok with this???

When you buy some t-shirts and don’t like them, do you keep them and still ask for your money back? Don’t exaggerate here. He’s not shipping 500 kits just a few kits back to my address. Calm down.

 

[AlexDavis43]

When you buy some t-shirts and don’t like them, do you keep them and still ask for your money back? Don’t exaggerate here. He’s not shipping 500 kits just a few kits back to my address. Calm down.

This has happened with other sources. People here rarely agree on anything but everyone agreed on not liking this.

You're used to sending gear in the mail. We're not.

 

[chumpsickel]

When you buy some t-shirts and don’t like them, do you keep them and still ask for your money back? Don’t exaggerate here. He’s not shipping 500 kits just a few kits back to my address. Calm down.

It's just a few kits that can be sold to some other member like some t-shirts?

 

[BigRed91]

Never liked the idea of sending stuff back. But I feel like the customer should at least make a video destroying the product if they want a refund.

 

[FastBun]

When you buy some t-shirts and don’t like them, do you keep them and still ask for your money back? Don’t exaggerate here. He’s not shipping 500 kits just a few kits back to my address. Calm down.

I’m not sure on ur country… but in america shipping a shirt is not same a shipping illegal drugs…

 

[chumpsickel]

Never liked the idea of sending stuff back. But I feel like the customer should at least make a video destroying the product if they want a refund.

At this point my plan is to hold onto the product and perform some testing for the community. I will ship I vial for testing after 3 months. If everything checks out I will happily use the product. If the tests come back with significant degradation, I guess I am out around $400 for the few kits I bought and $400 for some testing. Other members have offered to pitch in on testing, and I appreciate the offers; I may take you up on your generosity.

This no vacuum issue was actually reported by another member before I made my purchase. I guess that makes me an idiot for thinking the vendor wouldn't continue to sell the vials that had no vacuum after a customer it had already reported the issue. It sounds like he has the problem fixed now and all customers going forward have nothing to worry about.

I honestly only brought the issue up again to get clarification on when the offered testing would occur. He originally said 0, 3, 6, etc. months, but there was no real defined timeline.

 

[readalot]

At this point my plan is to hold onto the product and perform some testing for the community. I will ship I vial for testing after 3 months. If everything checks out I will happily use the product. If the tests come back with significant degradation, I guess I am out around $400 for the few kits I bought and $400 for some testing. Other members have offered to pitch in on testing, and I appreciate the offers; I may take you up on your generosity.

This no vacuum issue was actually reported by another member before I made my purchase. I guess that makes me an idiot for thinking the vendor wouldn't continue to sell the vials that had no vacuum after a customer it had already reported the issue. It sounds like he has the problem fixed now and all customers going forward have nothing to worry about.

I honestly only brought the issue up again to get clarification on when the offered testing would occur. He originally said 0, 3, 6, etc. months, but there was no real defined timeline.

I'm in. Make sure it's blind.

Doubtful those vials are Argon backfilled.

I wonder when @TheLobster will provide the comprehensive excipient list all in one place including glycine amount?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I suspect there is what you read on the internet and then there is real life. Testing will settle it.

Its not even what you read on the internet. it was his own poor interpretation of the study with no testing to validate his claim.

He isnt even hypothesizing it.


I have yet to see any stupid test result with his name on it.

 

[readalot]

Enjoy the whole paper. So much in here.

Protein Quantity on the Air-Solid Interface Determines Degradation Rates of Human Growth Hormone in Lyophilized Samples - PMC

rhGH was lyophilized with various glass-forming stabilizers, employing cycles that incorporated various freezing and annealing procedures to manipulate glass formation kinetics, associated relaxation processes and glass specific surface areas ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fig 4

Check out those excipients playing their role.

Beautiful kinetic treatment in the discussion section.

Yes the kinetics will slow at 298K vs 323K. Still gives you some great insight of physics/chemistry involved when storing lyophilized GH in air over time.

Now if that ain't some fun bedtime reading I don't know what is.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Sounds good @Spaceman Spiff . I placed my order in January, so I will send a vial to Janoshik in April.

Why not send it now?

 

[chumpsickel]

Why not send it now?

Sounds good. I will read about the procedure in the morning and try to get a vial out this week.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Never liked the idea of sending stuff back. But I feel like the customer should at least make a video destroying the product if they want a refund.

Smash it like Gallagher

 

[TheLobster]

At this point my plan is to hold onto the product and perform some testing for the community. I will ship I vial for testing after 3 months. If everything checks out I will happily use the product. If the tests come back with significant degradation, I guess I am out around $400 for the few kits I bought and $400 for some testing. Other members have offered to pitch in on testing, and I appreciate the offers; I may take you up on your generosity.

This no vacuum issue was actually reported by another member before I made my purchase. I guess that makes me an idiot for thinking the vendor wouldn't continue to sell the vials that had no vacuum after a customer it had already reported the issue. It sounds like he has the problem fixed now and all customers going forward have nothing to worry about.

I honestly only brought the issue up again to get clarification on when the offered testing would occur. He originally said 0, 3, 6, etc. months, but there was no real defined timeline.

Firstly, I want to clarify something. There are no HGH vials without vacuum currently,only one batch was like that. I don’t understand why this topic keeps getting brought up repeatedly on purpose.

I may have been selling retail products on Meso for a year, but I have been producing lyophilized products for 10 years+, and I have tested every single batch I’ve ever made with (vacuum and without) I have tested at least 50/60 different versions of HGH with Jano.

I’m really curious to see some comments once the test results are out.I can already predict the responses:
“Yes, you tested it, but the time frame was too short,” or some other excuse like that.

My friend, this is the third time you’re bringing this up. Do you really have that many doubts in your head?

Choose your lucky vial, send it for testing, and give me the tracking number. I’ll contact Jano, pay for the test, and share the results here with your name.

You’ve turned some people here into AI addicts,now some ppl just looks up things and shares random links.They haven’t even done a single lab test in their life.

Ship it today and share the tracking number with me. I’ll take care of the rest. Waiting for you,please make sure to ship it today

 

[readalot]

You’ve turned some people here into AI addicts,now some ppl just looks up things and shares random links.

Come now. Don't exaggerate. Don't inadvertently promote illiteracy as a consequence of your defensiveness.

 

[TheLobster]

Come now. Don't exaggerate. Don't inadvertently promote illiteracy as a consequence of your defensiveness.

Distinguished Professor PhD MD DSc Readalot . Thank you for your comments, and I wish you a good day