THE new "Generic" HGH Assay PAGE! AAA testing

[janoshik]

Because based on your history of posts I could see where you were aiming.

But okay, let's try it:

basic pricelist:
raws for purity 60 euro
finished products, quantitative of a single compound - 80 euro
hplc of hgh - 290 euro

 

[Eman]

Because based on your history of posts I could see where you were aiming.

But okay, let's try it:

basic pricelist:
raws for purity 60 euro
finished products, quantitative of a single compound - 80 euro
hplc of hgh - 290 euro

Do you provide all raw data for your testing?

If a sample is tested, can you prove legitimacy?

 

[janoshik]

Only when expicitely requested, it's an extreme pain in the ass to export it all.

Done so 3 times in the last 2 weeks. All samples tested for reddit/sst, if you stroll through, you will find out who had it done.

I'm not sure what do you mean by proving 'legitimacy'

 

[Eman]

I'm not sure what do you mean by proving 'legitimacy'

Meso members may be concerned that you are able to make the results of source X good or bad based upon ulterior motives... Just wondering if you can prove otherwise, if you can prove your results are legitimate. If not, it doesn't necessarily prove you're faking anything. I'm just wondering how you would professionally respond to that?

 

[heady muscle]

Did you not see where Jim said there will be NO MORE GH assays posted in this thread? And that there will be a new thread created for future tests? That means this thread is finished. IOW, there will be no more data posted.

Maybe if you stopped writing posts at least once or twice every page in which to whine about all the childish bantering and bullshit behavior, you would have seen it. Jesus fucking Christ already.

And the point being, if nobody gives a fuck about what Jano And M96 says, then lets get back to discussing the results Jim and Mands have come up with thus far. Since the new results were posted barely anything has been discussed about them because of the bullshit bantering.

 

[rpbb]

What you don't realize is that the majority of the people here are smart enough to see through all the smoke and mirrors and bullshit being posted in this thread. Everyone who was a part of the testing and everybody who knows my reputation and history understand that you guys look like a bunch of complete fucking clowns with your conspiracy theories and false accusations. You have even dragged RP into this which shows you know nothing about what you talk about and are just a bunch of incompetent morons who can't defend your own testing and so you try to diminish what others have done in an attempt to make yourselves look better. To think Dr. Jim is actually a real doctor and this is how he treats people. I sure as hell wouldn't go to a doc like this. I could understand if you guys were a bunch of college kids playing on a computer. But to think that this stuff is being written by grown men and adults is just plain pathetic.

Muscle, you're wrong. You guys are basing your testing results off a guy who has been a known fraud. than you come here and attack our testing because you don't like the results and Dr J's personality. And you have to admit, Racepick thanking the sponsors for letting you guys test their product is just weird

 

[mands]

Muscle, you're wrong. You guys are basing your testing results off a guy who has been a known fraud. than you come here and attack our testing because you don't like the results and Dr J's personality. And you have to admit, Racepick thanking the sponsors for letting you guys test their product is just weird

He's most likely thanking them because some sponsors helped paid for the testing. That's my guess.

mands

 

[janoshik]

Meso members may be concerned that you are able to make the results of source X good or bad based upon ulterior motives... Just wondering if you can prove otherwise, if you can prove your results are legitimate. If not, it doesn't necessarily prove you're faking anything. I'm just wondering how you would professionally respond to that?

So were the members on SST when I first came there, long time ago.

I dare to say that they've put me through numerous tests - like sending blind samples, sending laced samples, sending samples of known composition (not known to me)... But anything I say should be considered biased, so feel free to check it out there yourself and ask people.

I don't really know what else I could respond.

Also, if I was faking anything or was shilling for anybody, it would be interesting to point out whom I would do it for. I'm doing this for longer than most sources (at least over at SST) even exist.

My reputation is something that makes me money. If there was a sponsor who'd want to give me 20 000$ for faking results it would still be a bad deal for me as it took years for me to build the reputation and a single case of myself having ulterior motives would shred it to bits.

Also, I know personally dozens of people over there on the forums, who know me and can vouch both for my abilities and integrity.

 

[PrideofNYC123]

He's most likely thanking them because some sponsors helped paid for the testing. That's my guess.

mands

Correct. They paid for Simec and the members paid for the hplc done by Jano and the immunoassays

 

[rpbb]

Correct. They paid for Simec and the members paid for the hplc done by Jano and the immunoassays

the important thing to tell the guys at PM is that simec and Dr J are idiots not to be trusted, and go with Janos tests that say the chinese hgh is all magically overdosed and even better than pharma, except for that one tiny sponsor that was thrown under the bus

 

[Eman]

So were the members on SST when I first came there, long time ago.

I dare to say that they've put me through numerous tests - like sending blind samples, sending laced samples, sending samples of known composition (not known to me)... But anything I say should be considered biased, so feel free to check it out there yourself and ask people.

I don't really know what else I could respond.

Also, if I was faking anything or was shilling for anybody, it would be interesting to point out whom I would do it for. I'm doing this for longer than most sources (at least over at SST) even exist.

My reputation is something that makes me money. If there was a sponsor who'd want to give me 20 000$ for faking results it would still be a bad deal for me as it took years for me to build the reputation and a single case of myself having ulterior motives would shred it to bits.

Also, I know personally dozens of people over there on the forums, who know me and can vouch both for my abilities and integrity.

Without hostility, can you give an explanation in laymen terms on Dr Jim's process for the testing.

Remember, your integrity on this forum is questionable at best... An improvement would be refreshing in that regard.

 

[muscle96ss]

the important thing to tell the guys at PM is that simec and Dr J are idiots not to be trusted, and go with Janos tests that say the chinese hgh is all magically overdosed and even better than pharma, except for that one tiny sponsor that was thrown under the bus

But the immunoassay was not performed by jano buy by and accredited and licensed lab which I have the original scans from. You keep ignoring this important fact.

Secondly, that sponsor that I supposedly through under the bus is LK3 and I consider him a friend and use his injectable antioxidant products religiously. His services and products can't be beat and I highly recommend him . His GH was not even available for normal members to purchase because he was not sure of it and wanted it tested before he brought it forward. If I were biased, I would have definitely given him a pass because he is a good guy and deserves to succeed.

 

[mands]

I hear what you are saying, but on those that tested at 10iu, we don't what the seller actually claims is their contents. For instance, TP's 10iu black tops he actually claims to have 15iu and when Rips were on the market he claimed those to be overdosed as well(which testing showed was true). And as of recent a lot of sellers have been intentionally overdosing to get higher serum scores and compete in what has become a competitive market. Whether or not people agree with serum scores, you have to agree that the high serum scores improve sales. So just because some samples came back as being close to 10iu, doesn't mean that the value is necessarily correct. That is why the pharm sample is so important. Because if that comes back correct then I would have to agree that your testing is accurate. But by the same token, I would think that if the pharm sample comes back with a decent amount of error then you would have to agree that something is off.

Our testing shows in the chart what the seller claims in their vial. The only one that doesn't show the claim is TP's black tops. He claims 15 iu's but we have it marked as 10 iu's. He stated these were overdosed and out testing shows it's true

Yes Pharm samples will be nice.

I myself will most likely be taking over all testing. Jim has tried and tried. I believe he's sick of it frankly and I don't blame him. I've wanted to walk away a few times.

mands

 

[Just Fish]

@jano if spent more time proving that your data and testing are accurate and not biase rather than trying to discredit Dr Jim's data and testing you would get a lot more respect here.

 

[janoshik]

the important thing to tell the guys at PM is that simec and Dr J are idiots not to be trusted, and go with Janos tests that say the chinese hgh is all magically overdosed and even better than pharma, except for that one tiny sponsor that was thrown under the bus

Quote me on saying chinese hgh is better than pharma.

Thank you.

Without hostility, can you give an explanation in laymen terms on Dr Jim's process for the testing.

Remember, your integrity on this forum is questionable at best... An improvement would be refreshing in that regard.

When there is no hostility aimed at me I have no reason to be hostile - as you've seen I'm very happy to answer all your questions you've posted in a polite manner.

I cannot give you explanation to the exact process JIM has the analyses conducted with - only he (or maybe not even him - not an attack! If he is not the one conducting the analyses, which he is not, he might not know for example what enzymes are they using, or stuff he might not consider important to know) knows that and had not made that public yet.

I can give you explanations about AAA testing (I think I had explained it somewhere over on PM a while ago).

Please, can you name the precise reasons why do you consider my integrity here to be questionable? I'll be happy to talk about it a a calm and polite manner.

 

[janoshik]

@jano if spent more time proving that your data and testing are accurate and not biase rather than trying to discredit Dr Jim's data and testing you would get a lot more respect here.

I just love repeating myself - what do my data have with me pointing out JIMs contradictions and lies?

His lies and contradictions are what I pointed out from the beginning.

It was you guys who started talking about testing conducted over at PM.

I think it's called deflection.

 

[rpbb]

I just love repeating myself - what do my data have with me pointing out JIMs contradictions and lies?

His lies and contradictions are what I pointed out from the beginning.

It was you guys who started talking about testing conducted over at PM.

I think it's called deflection.

actually, we didn't give a rat's ass about the testing at PM until you and muscle came over and started your happy horseshit with Jim, (same as the last time DrJ and mands did testing).

 

[janoshik]

actually, we didn't give a rat's ass about the testing at PM until you and muscle came over and started your happy horseshit with Jim, (same as the last time DrJ and mands did testing).

Do I have to quote you on your lying ass again?

"Generic" GH ASSAYS

Do you want me to quote you on the time when you said it was totally me mentioning the PM testing first?

I love the fact you can't delete stuff on this forum. Much easier to point out the liars.

 

[Just Fish]

I know I could give two shits about PM's testing

 

[Eman]

Please, can you name the precise reasons why do you consider my integrity here to be questionable? I'll be happy to talk about it a a calm and polite manner.

We are a community here... This board is nothing like PM.

Dr Jim has been a respected member of this community for a long time. He can come off as abrasive at times but he has contributed more to Meso than most ever will.

Now, you have come in from day one throwing accusations, calling Jim a liar, fraud etc etc. I've not seen a whole lot of your factual evidence to support any of your claims either.

You don't seem capable of having a discussion and then you point your finger at Jim for being unable to do the same... Would you be able to have a discussion with you? You've admitted you have a short fuse... How would you react to the shit talk if you were in Jim's position I wonder...

It's a vicious circle in the thread. Completely unproductive....

I'm trying to ascertain if you actually have anything to offer here or if the damage is done.