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[muscle96ss]

I am looking and I haven't found the standard yet but I will keep looking.

I did find that our testing on the black tops were dosed higher than immunoassay's testing. On two different occasions so far and I'm only on page 4 of the thread.

I also noticed we are over on dosing with the sample Kaluta's black top than Jano's testing and immunoassay's testing over at PM.

I don't see Kefei's being tested as he missed the boat on the first rounds it seems but our testing has his right on the money.

I'm really not seeing a huge difference except in the greys. My thoughts is that both sets of testing seem to be pretty accurate with one another. Jano has mentioned to me that another vial we tested here he had tested with his lab and it was exactly the same. The vial cannot be disclosed so don't ask.

I think everyone needs to step back and figure this out without whining like a bunch of butt hurt kids.

All the banter is just causing hostility and unwanted posts back and forth. It's exhausting and ridiculous.

mands

We tested the earlier batches of the blacks before there was 5mg in them. The batch you tested has had extensive testing done by tp. Also kalatu had several suppliers including he purchased some blacks from tp without tps knowledge. So we dont even know if what was tested from that scammer even came from the same place. But you are correct, the differences arent huge, but enough to suspect that something is off a little. Thats why i have said all along that this can be very useful if we can just collaborate to get things right. However its obvious that jim wants no part in that and doesnt care about accuracy.

 

[mands]

You nailed it, all muscle cares about is TP and the grey tops, I wonder why

Well we have more grey tops being tested and have one that has already been tested.

mands

 

[MassTurk]

@mands Im a supporter of Dr Jim. These tests you and him conducted are one of the best things happened to this community. I will always be here to defend his efforts. But his attitude right or wrong, is indefensible. If he is for this community there is no need for the banter. Since you looked at data and don't find much difference I guess they did proper testing too I'm guessing

 

[BigAli]

Im sorry, did i hurt your feelings? Your the one that just HAD to brag about his money and cars. Besides its not like i wouldnt give it back[emoji23]

I believe it hurt your feelings bc you got yourself involved in an uninvited discussion. I'd be more than happy to send you my address. Just go thru my posts and see where I'm from originally. You might change your words. You are a big guy so don't be scared.

PS. just do not forget to wear you red miniskirt. (I see some implications from the way you hold your phone in your avatar )

 

[janoshik]

Jano has mentioned to me that another vial we tested here he had tested with his lab and it was exactly the same. The vial cannot be disclosed so don't ask.

I think everyone needs to step back and figure this out without whining like a bunch of butt hurt kids.

All the banter is just causing hostility and unwanted posts back and forth.

true this

 

[janoshik]

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[mands]

@mands Im a supporter of Dr Jim. These tests you and him conducted are one of the best things happened to this community. I will always be here to defend his efforts. But his attitude right or wrong, is indefensible. If he is for this community there is no need for the banter. Since you looked at data and don't find much difference I guess they did proper testing too I'm guessing

I really can't determine that. I didn't see the standard posted over there and we haven't seen the raw data.

It looks like Jano's and Immunoassay's testing seem to be pretty close within each others on most samples. I think the biggest difference was 1.9 iu's or 10% on the Somastims.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

You nailed it, all muscle cares about is TP and the grey tops, I wonder why

Dude, I could care less what GH you choose to buy or who you buy it from as long as you are making an informed decision with the correct information. I personally use the greys and buy from PD; thats my personal choice based on many factors. Firstly, I have known PD longer than TP and don't mind paying a little extra to ensure that I have a tracking number and a package at my doorsteps within a couple days of payment. I have been using GH for around 25 years and have used numerous brands both pharma and generic. I have done IGF-1 and serum results on many of these and have seen how the different brands react with my body. Some make me dry and vascular, some make me more full, etc... So I have made my choice based on what works for ME!!

What I recommend for anyone to do is to try different brands, do some bloodwork, see how it makes you look, see how it makes you feel, and see what your results are. Then stick with what works for you. What works for me, may or may not work for you. Many people complain of swelling, carpal tunnel, and extreme lethargy on the greys; they may not be for you.

So do't put words in my mouth. I will tell you what I use and the pros and cons of my experiences. I support the greys because that is what I personally use and because I know where they come from(which makes some of these posts humorous). When people ask you in real life about products that you use, don't you give them honest recommendations?

You guys like to twist things around here and distort them like politicians. It is this us against you mentality that is complete bullshit. We need to work together to find answers and guide people based on right and wrong, not ego's.

 

[muscle96ss]

I read the whole thread and let's just say WOW! I didn't find the standard posted I must have missed it.

Just send me the page number on the Jano thread.

mands

I will be back at my computer in a bit and will find it and PM it to you.

 

[Dr JIM]

Exactly what I thought!!! You can't reason with idiotic morons!

Right we are idiots bc YOU want to "play" by a different set of rules, GET LOST BOZO!

 

[Dr JIM]

I will be back at my computer in a bit and will find it and PM it to you.

Why don't you POST IT MH so we can all see it! It's the same ol" nonsense over and over again. I can see it now, "ah sorry MANDS but the standard is not for public display"!

 

[muscle96ss]

Right we are idiots bc YOU want to "play" by a different set of rules, GET LOST BOZO!

And what rules are those? You are delusional!!

 

[PrideofNYC123]

I read the whole thread and let's just say WOW! I didn't find the standard posted I must have missed it.

Just send me the page number on the Jano thread.

mands

I don't remember seeing it either. There is a "blank" hplc but I don't remember the standard.


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[muscle96ss]

Why don't you POST IT MH so we can all see it! It's the same ol" nonsense over and over again. I can see it now, "ah sorry MANDS but the standard is not for public display"!

This is so fucking ironic; everybody please review this thread:

MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

Remember it is YOU who refused to post your standard. Then when you changed your mind and PROMISED to post it, you still NEVER posted it!! Then when the code for the standard was exposed as being Karl's Somastim, you denied it and just created diversions.

Jim, this is your third attempt at trying to test GH, thus far NONE of them have produced accurate results and your biased stance has always been that they are accurate and that all GH is just underdosed, because Jim could never be wrong(you are just a failure). So instead of learning how to do it right, you attack others that have actually succeeded in testing it. And then you put on this act that I am supposed to ignore the rules that I am bound by and actually give you something that you refused to give me even after you promised(a man of integrity I see). And you aren't even willing to listen to reason and meet me half-way and do it in a legitimate and fair method. Cut the bullshit and charades. If you truly care about whats best for the community and getting this stuff right, then quit acting like a jackass and act like a decent human being and have a normal discussion.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

You guys like to twist things around here and distort them like politicians.

More projecting.

t is this us against you mentality that is complete bullshit. We need to work together to find answers and guide people based on right and wrong, not ego's.

Says who? We don't need to do anything. You ProMuscle guys barged in here and pissed on our rug, and now you expect us to help clean it up and invite you to stay for dinner.

I don't see anyone from Meso over at ProMuscle asking about your testing. Do you know why? Because most Meso members don't care what you do on that scammer board.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

This is so fucking ironic; everybody please review this thread:

MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

Remember it is YOU who refused to post your standard. Then when you changed your mind and PROMISED to post it, you still NEVER posted it!! Then when the code for the standard was exposed as being Karl's Somastim, you denied it and just created diversions.

Jim, this is your third attempt at trying to test GH, thus far NONE of them have produced accurate results and your biased stance has always been that they are accurate and that all GH is just underdosed, because Jim could never be wrong(you are just a failure). So instead of learning how to do it right, you attack others that have actually succeeded in testing it. And then you put on this act that I am supposed to ignore the rules that I am bound by and actually give you something that you refused to give me even after you promised(a man of integrity I see). And you aren't even willing to listen to reason and meet me half-way and do it in a legitimate and fair method. Cut the bullshit and charades. If you truly care about whats best for the community and getting this stuff right, then quit acting like a jackass and act like a decent human being and have a normal discussion.

What a blatant attempt at deflecting! You're not even trying to hide it anymore. Sad.

 

[muscle96ss]

What a blatant attempt at deflecting! You're not even trying to hide it anymore. Sad.

I have already made a proposition for a solution here this morning. It was quite reasonable and nobody in their right mind with pure motives would refuse it. However, thats just what Jim did. Are you guys really after solutions? What is your motive here? CBS, why are you even in this thread; you don't use these drugs and haven't contributed anything in the form of information to this thread?

 

[Dr JIM]

This is so fucking ironic; everybody please review this thread:

MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

Remember it is YOU who refused to post your standard. Then when you changed your mind and PROMISED to post it, you still NEVER posted it!! Then when the code for the standard was exposed as being Karl's Somastim, you denied it and just created diversions.

Jim, this is your third attempt at trying to test GH, thus far NONE of them have produced accurate results and your biased stance has always been that they are accurate and that all GH is just underdosed, because Jim could never be wrong(you are just a failure). So instead of learning how to do it right, you attack others that have actually succeeded in testing it. And then you put on this act that I am supposed to ignore the rules that I am bound by and actually give you something that you refused to give me even after you promised(a man of integrity I see). And you aren't even willing to listen to reason and meet me half-way and do it in a legitimate and fair method. Cut the bullshit and charades. If you truly care about whats best for the community and getting this stuff right, then quit acting like a jackass and act like a decent human being and have a normal discussion.

More of the same crap, did you find Janes standard, ah its not for public display.

What that entire thread proves is how willing I was to expose ALL of the accompanying data yet YOU wont cite squat for Janeos FIVE lame HPLCs.

Your an ignorant hypocritical fraud and is why MH = MEATHEAD!

Try your bullshit on PM where they "idolize" the likes of your ignorant ass!

 

[muscle96ss]

More of the same crap, did you find Janes standard, ah its not for public display.

What that entire thread proves is how willing I was to expose ALL of the accompanied data yet YOU wont cite squat. Your an ignorant hypocritical fraud and is why MH = MEATHEAD!

Like I stated, you aren't interested in solutions. Jano already put you to shame on your knowledge of GH testing. So instead, you sit here and try to divert people to scenario you know is impossible to happen to try and save face. Let me know when you are man enough to have a real discussion.

 

[Dr JIM]

I have already made a proposition for a solution here this morning. It was quite reasonable and nobody in their right mind with pure motives would refuse it. However, thats just what Jim did. Are you guys really after solutions? What is your motive here? CBS, why are you even in this thread; you don't use these drugs and haven't contributed anything in the form of information to this thread?

A "solution" with you being a part is no solution, it's MH taking charge pure and simple and you're damn right I'll have NO PART of it, been there done that!

Whats there to "solve" MH tell me now, bc the data being posted on this thread is accurate and since you have failed to cite ANYTHING to the contrary, if you don't like it to bad LEAVE!