THE new "Generic" HGH Assay PAGE! AAA testing

Muscle, I think it's time for you to call your super secret Chinese lab and tell them they fucked up
 
I think everyone needs to step back and figure this out without whining like a bunch of butt hurt kids.

All the banter is just causing hostility and unwanted posts back and forth. It's exhausting and ridiculous.

mands
Sorry Mands, there is no way they're going to listen. The drug of banter is stronger than Heroin I guess!:confused:
 
Trust me, I don't want to be in charge. Secondly, there is no possible way that the data is accurate. Like I said prior, I know too much about some of these GH's and where they come from.

Cant you answer a simple question wo deflecting for goodness sake, what is there to solve?

Talk about a fraud. Why do you go out and spend thousands of dollars of your own personal money and risk having an illegal substance tested inside the USA without some personal benefit. You have always preached that people should only take pharma GH. So why are you even wasting your time and money with this project? Let me guess; its for the good of the community. Its because you love the people here and want to give back. I can see that clearly by your attitude in each and every post. Talk about having a bias and ulterior motives; Jim tell us why you are doing this. You know, two can play this game. I have been trying to keep this civil, but if a shit show is what you want then we can do that too.

With comments of this nature tell me @mands what can be "figured out" NOTHING. But I'm not going to bow out this time as I did on the MALDI thread.

MEATHEAD entered this thread with one objective and one objective only; to discredit this data! How telling only TWO of his questions are directly related to the assays we've posted. Not his time, if he wants to talk trash I'll be here.

But then again he could just LEAVE and return to his cadre of PM worshipers.
 
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Sorry Mands, there is no way they're going to listen. The drug of banter is stronger than Heroin I guess!:confused:

If you stopped trying to be the Meso nanny for five minutes, you might have actually noticed that some valuable info has been uncovered. Namely, that MH admitted there is nothing Jim can say or do that will ever convince him the test results are accurate. IOW, MH isn't here to uncover the truth, he's here to discredit the tests by any means possible.

That's a pretty damn big admission and it sheds a lot of light on what's been going on here. And the best part is his admission came right after I told MassTurk that MH will never be satisfied with any explanation. Oops!

But keep on with your daily reprimands, HM. I'm starting to enjoy them.
 
This is a great thread though I'm a little late, as it seems it's been derailed.

Would be beneficial to every member to get back on subject.



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I believe there is not much to talk about with guys from pm than. Let's get back to keep analyzing for our own sake. They don't have to take any of this seriously. This is uncensored forum and we can keep doing what we do before they showed up. If this us not a pissing contest and bettering our own community I'm satisfied with data provided. If there is a pharma sample I hope that will shut them up. I just want to be able to follow dr Jim without the constant banter. If they were trying to discredit him by allowing this convo to go for this long JIM fell for it. Conversation is being diverted to discredit Jim then helping the community . I don't doubt for a second that mands and Dr. Jim's results are accurate. What gets me is if we have the evidence to provide that being the case why not post it. Not for PM boys but for our community.
 
If you stopped trying to be the Meso nanny for five minutes, you might have actually noticed that some valuable info has been uncovered. Namely, that MH admitted there is nothing Jim can say or do that will ever convince him the test results are accurate. IOW, MH isn't here to uncover the truth, he's here to discredit the tests by any means possible.

That's a pretty damn big admission and it sheds a lot of light on what's been going on here. And the best part is his admission came right after I told MassTurk that MH will never be satisfied with any explanation. Oops!

But keep on with your daily reprimands, HM. I'm starting to enjoy them.

That is not what I said, Mr. politician. If you would simply enable the factory that produced the GH to communicate with the person who performed the testing; we will get somewhere. But fuck no, that makes too much sense!!! Can't do that!!! It would be too simple and easy, and we obviously don't really want answers here.

You guys sit and and bitch and whine that none of the sellers test their GH and call them irresponsible. And then you have a seller that not only tests the stuff he sells but is willing to prove that his GH is legit and you get scared and run away making excuses and blaming me or PM; which are all diversions. Unbelievable.
 
This is a great thread though I'm a little late, as it seems it's been derailed.

Would be beneficial to every member to get back on subject.



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What subject is that, this dispute bt MH myself is long overdue, bc as long as he is here to talk trash like he did on the other GH threads Ill be here to refute it.

Like the MH post above the ah-ha I gotcha Jim; if I can't criticize your data bc I don't understand it, (but he KNOWS those PM assays are FACTUAL) then I will find reason to criticize you. A sort of if you can't shoot the message kill the messenger adage.

To that end, tell me/us why are YOU willing to accept the risk of conducting tests on illegal substances in the US? How telling bc MH doesn't even understand the legality of this testing, bc its PERFECTLY LEGAL!

Short answer --------- that's not for public disclosure MH, LOL!

However @RingMeister01 if you have a question about the existing data I'm happy to answer it, if it hasn't been answered already, bc our evidence is FULLY TRANSPARENT unlike the top secret GH sample data on PM!
 
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That is not what I said, Mr. politician. If you would simply enable the factory that produced the GH to communicate with the person who performed the testing; we will get somewhere. But fuck no, that makes too much sense!!! Can't do that!!! It would be too simple and easy, and we obviously don't really want answers here.

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I don't know of ANY commercial research or clinical lab that would spend more than a minute with someone who was attempting to dispute the data they generated unless that individual paid for it!

They have better things to do with their time than answer questions from some unknown entity from an unknown country with an undeclared agenda!

And let me have the phone number to YOUR lab so my questions can be answered! Oh heavens no the latter is "top secret" right!

If "they" have questions with respect to THIS DATA POST IT

 
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I knew muscle would finally expose himself, his whole mission all along has been to discredit any testing that doesn't say the greytops are the best. Also, his admission that he knows too much about the greytops and where they come from confirms what I've been saying on this board for a long time, he's a paid shill
 
If have the evidence to provide that being the case why not post it. .

AND I'll answer that question for the SECOND time, we are awaiting the finalized data
on the LAST FIVE samples, the reasons SHOULD be obvious by now!

You tell me what do you think MEATHEAD would attempt to do with even ONE "ERROR" LMAO!

Rest assured its also the reason so little data is included in PMs HPLCS! Limit the data seen on behalf of "the public" limit the error exposure rate considerably. It's next to impossible to criticize that which you can't see!

EVERY lab errors and while the overwhelming majority are insignificant blunders that have minimal effect on the final outcome, those of significance can alter the accuracy and thats why checks and balances are instituted.

Ive learned NEVER to post truly prelim assay data in spite of how hurried others may be.
 
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This argument is tiresome and boring. I'm not reading all these childish posts.

Mands are you guys going to test and post a pharma sample with the same lab and AAA process for comparison? Why is Jim hell bent against that?

This thread needs less rpbb (clueless clinger), less Jim's fat obnoxious mouth and more testing and data comparisons.

Fucking sad...
 
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AND I'll answer that question for the SECOND time, we are awaiting the finalized data
on the LAST FIVE samples, the reasons SHOULD be obvious by now!

You tell me what do you think MEATHEAD would attempt to do with even ONE "ERROR" LMAO!

Rest assured its also the reason so little data is included in PMs HPLCS!

EVERY lab errors the overwhelming majority are insignificant blunders that have minimal effect on the final outcome, but those of significance can alter the accuracy and thats why checks and balances are instituted.

Ive learned NEVER to post truly prelim assay data in spite of how hurried others may be.

Doc I thought you insinuated you weren't going to post any more data . I must have misunderstood you
 
I believe it hurt your feelings bc you got yourself involved in an uninvited discussion. I'd be more than happy to send you my address. Just go thru my posts and see where I'm from originally. You might change your words. You are a big guy so don't be scared. ;)

PS. just do not forget to wear you red miniskirt. (I see some implications from the way you hold your phone in your avatar :D )

Tell u what, instead of me wasting my time how bout u just tell me where your from. You can pm me so you dont keep cluttering up this thread, how bout dat!!!!
 
This argument is tiresome and boring. I'm not reading all these childish posts.

Mands are you guys going to test and post a pharma sample with the same lab and AAA process for comparison? Why is Jim hell bent against that?

This thread needs less rpbb (clueless clinger), less Jim's fat obnoxious mouth and more testing and data comparisons.

Fucking sad...
And I'll invite you to go fuck yourself, if you don't like it, go to PM where all the hgh is great
 
This argument is tiresome and boring. I'm not reading all these childish posts.

Mands are you guys going to test and post a pharma sample with the same lab and AAA process for comparison? Why is Jim hell bent against that?

This thread needs less rpbb (clueless clinger), less Jim's fat obnoxious mouth and more testing and data comparisons.

Fucking sad...
And mands and Dr J arent required to test anything just to make you happy
 
I caution people on getting too carried away with assuming accuracy until we have a pharm grade sample that has gone through to confirm that there isn't any error involved in this process/methodology. This is not an accusation against Jim and I do not believe there is any foul play or conspiracy here.

Tell me which Pharma product did the HPLCs on PM use
How about which Pharma product is "best" GH STANDARD?
Tell me what Pharma GH did the first article posted by CBS use?
Tell me what Pharma product does USP use as the universal standard?

Your entire supposition a pharma standard comparison would settle this dispute is bogus and NOT evidence based. Pity you "know all the data from your labs is factual"
yet you make comments of this nature.

Theres just no point of any further "data exchange" with you on my behalf, as your fund of knowledge with respect to GH analysis is far to limited to "settle" anything.
Of course I knew that the minute you made the above comment!
 
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I caution people on getting too carried away with assuming accuracy until we have a pharm grade sample that has gone through to confirm that there isn't any error involved in this process/methodology. This is not an accusation against Jim and I do not believe there is any foul play or conspiracy here.
Listen,
No one here is buying anything until you post your data. You're coming from a position of the antagonist, the doubter and the accuser. You come here spouting your data from PM, but you cannot share it because PM will not allow it. Then you have no horse in this race.
Why is this info private? The excuse that it was hand shake deal prior to the testing over at PM doesn't add up. You are making a pretty sad, desperate image with this rhetoric. I am sure everyone surmises what I do about that data not being shared and it's the nature of the beast.
The burden is on you to produce, not Jim. And until then you shouldn't expect anything in return.
 
Listen,
No one here is buying anything until you post your data. You're coming from a position of the antagonist, the doubter and the accuser. You come here spouting your data from PM, but you cannot share it because PM will not allow it. Then you have no horse in this race.
Why is this info private? The excuse that it was hand shake deal prior to the testing over at PM doesn't add up. You are making a pretty sad, desperate image with this rhetoric. I am sure everyone surmises what I do about that data not being shared and it's the nature of the beast.
The burden is on you to produce, not Jim. And until then you shouldn't expect anything in return.

The testing done on PM was done by donation from the members with everything to be posted in the private lab testing forum that requires 50 posts to view. This section was created when Big A and Raj did the first lab tests on PM roughly 6 years ago. At the time it was created it was disclosed that anybody that removes anything from this section and posts it on another board will be permanently banned. Big A didn't want people who bitch and whine about how bad PM is to then hypocritically come and steal the information for their own use. I completely understand his reasoning and agree that if the members who paid for these tests choose not share it with others, than that is their right. However, even if I disagreed it would not matter because I don't have any say in the matter. You can sit here and complain to me all you want and keep telling me to post things, but I have no special powers. What you are asking me to do just isn't possible and I don't understand why you guys don't get it.

Secondly you are focusing on a complete diversion. The testing on PM is not what this thread is about. This thread is about determining what the contents are of various vials of GH. I have argued with Jim's prior testing for good reasons and this was before we had even done any testing on PM. This isn't about comparing PM versus Meso to see who is king of the hill. Jesus christ, what is wrong with you people? This is about getting things right. You have guys praising pharma GH and talking about how horrible generic GH is and ironically you have pharma GH at an affordable price staring you in the face and you guys are too fucking stupid to realize it.
 
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