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bolder said:
A lot going on here bro. Also too long of a cycle, imo. You’re purposing a 6 month blast?
You have enough included in this cycle to run two separate cycles.
Sounds like your wanting it all at once.
I’d suggest two separate cycles here with a break in between. But that’s just me.
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Thats how i will set it up. Break it into 2 cycles. Thank you
 
gunny8541 said:
I have tried tren twice and couldnt get past 3 weeks. It was test @ 500 tren @ 300. I wanted to try lower test low tren and hopefully make it work. If it works, i could extend it out. I have never done over a 12 week and have only seen about 16 - 20 week max. I didnt know if running normal test and primo moderate would be too much to extend the extra time.
I thought about the primo the entire run but wasnt sure how effective it woukd be in a calorie surplus. Everything i read said its best used when deficit or maintaining.
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I had a great first few weeks on Tren A and then the sides hit me pretty hard and I was only doing 200mgs a week so I feel you on that.
I know @iceman440 will think this is heresy but just leave the Tren out and do NPP. Sounds like you want to bulk anyhow and NPP is the friendlier choice.
 
Urgentfury12 said:
I had a great first few weeks on Tren A and then the sides hit me pretty hard and I was only doing 200mgs a week so I feel you on that.
I know @iceman440 will think this is heresy but just leave the Tren out and do NPP. Sounds like you want to bulk anyhow and NPP is the friendlier choice.
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I have always had a good run on test/npp/mast. Just wanted to try something different. I want the tren to work but i work days for 2 weeks then nights for 2 weeks @ 12 hr shifts so sleep is already messed up, then the tren made it unbearable.
 
gunny8541 said:
Would yall mind critiquing this and tell me what changes you would make. It looks good to me on paper but yall know more about how long to run each compound etc. I dont feel it is an overly aggressive cycle but it might be too long. Thanks fellas

1-4 test E 200 wk, tren a 250 wk,mast p 400 wk, Anavar 50 day

4-14 test E 500 wk, npp 350 wk, maybe add mast p back in and finish with anavar.

14-24 test E 200 wk, primo 600 wk, maybe add var in at end.

Pharmacy anastrozole as needed, lisinoprol if BP gets high, will be monitored daily.

Pre bloods will be done and mid bloods every 8 weeks to see how everything looks.

No pct, continue doc prescribed trt test cyp @ 200 wk.
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What’s your goal with this? This might be the first time I’ve seen someone use tren and an oral on the front end of a long cycle.

Your dosages are definitely moderate. Let’s hear the goal and I bet we can structure it better (into two cycles as mentioned) for better results
 
gunny8541 said:
Would yall mind critiquing this and tell me what changes you would make. It looks good to me on paper but yall know more about how long to run each compound etc. I dont feel it is an overly aggressive cycle but it might be too long. Thanks fellas

1-4 test E 200 wk, tren a 250 wk,mast p 400 wk, Anavar 50 day

4-14 test E 500 wk, npp 350 wk, maybe add mast p back in and finish with anavar.

14-24 test E 200 wk, primo 600 wk, maybe add var in at end.

Pharmacy anastrozole as needed, lisinoprol if BP gets high, will be monitored daily.

Pre bloods will be done and mid bloods every 8 weeks to see how everything looks.

No pct, continue doc prescribed trt test cyp @ 200 wk.
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@Mac11wildcat will get this sorted out for you and you’ll end up with a solid approach. As others pointed out you’re doing too much in one cycle and it’s actually two jammed together consecutively.

I’m a big believer in running the stronger compounds toward the end of a cycle to overcome any plateaus you might hit. The NPP kicks in fast enough so you don’t need an oral at the beginning. And I would save the Tren for the end of the cycle. Tren is more powerful than NPP so using it at the end will give you a nice bump. If it fucks up your sleep then using it at the beginning kind of cripples the progress of your cycle right from the start.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
@Mac11wildcat will get this sorted out for you and you’ll end up with a solid approach. As others pointed out you’re doing too much in one cycle and it’s actually two jammed together consecutively.

I’m a big believer in running the stronger compounds toward the end of a cycle to overcome any plateaus you might hit. The NPP kicks in fast enough so you don’t need an oral at the beginning. And I would save the Tren for the end of the cycle. Tren is more powerful than NPP so using it at the end will give you a nice bump. If it fucks up your sleep then using it at the beginning kind of cripples the progress of your cycle right from the start.
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Need something to distract me anyways.

I opened my eyes this morning imagining what it’s like waking up as MoreShitstain and almost ate a round through my Glock.
 
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Mac11wildcat said:
Need something to distract me anyways.

I opened my eyes this morning imagining what it’s like waking up as MoreShitstain and almost ate a round through my Glock.
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Don’t sweat it man. You can’t let every dumbass and asshole piss you off. They’re just not worth it and you shouldn’t let it get to you.

You’ve been contributing to the forum and he’s been trolling for attention he isn’t getting somewhere else. He’s just an unhappy person who thinks the world owes him something.

Nobody else gives two shits what he has to say.
 
Brawny said:
Don’t sweat it man. You can’t let every dumbass and asshole piss you off. They’re just not worth it and you shouldn’t let it get to you.

You’ve been contributing to the forum and he’s been trolling for attention he isn’t getting somewhere else. He’s just an unhappy person who thinks the world owes him something.

Nobody else gives two shits what he has to say.
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I’ve enjoyed every minute. He’s a great outlet for care-free stress relief.
 
gunny8541 said:
Would yall mind critiquing this and tell me what changes you would make. It looks good to me on paper but yall know more about how long to run each compound etc. I dont feel it is an overly aggressive cycle but it might be too long. Thanks fellas

1-4 test E 200 wk, tren a 250 wk,mast p 400 wk, Anavar 50 day

4-14 test E 500 wk, npp 350 wk, maybe add mast p back in and finish with anavar.

14-24 test E 200 wk, primo 600 wk, maybe add var in at end.

Pharmacy anastrozole as needed, lisinoprol if BP gets high, will be monitored daily.

Pre bloods will be done and mid bloods every 8 weeks to see how everything looks.

No pct, continue doc prescribed trt test cyp @ 200 wk.
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Man this is a cluster fuck lol. What’s your goal for this cycle?

If you want to run a long long cycle like this, EQ/primo would be your best bet IMO. Throw us your goals, we can help you better
 
Y’all see Cailer pull a WR deadlift at the Kern yesterday? 950lbs at less than 220lbs

Strongest pull any American has ever made. Fuark
 
So back on the subject of bloodwork, what all should a person be looking for as far as liver health?

ALT and AST? Or is there something more involved?
 
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