Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

My useless opinion, Although we need to keep vetting sources (TGI) since when did Jano and WM fall of the source list? They are still sources of testing, who's to say they don't have motive to fake tests (jano) or take a payoff to help put a source under. If we're going to give a creatine source constant vetting, why aren't we going to give the testing source a constant vetting? We have no clue who is behind Jano or WM, to automatically trust the testing source and ignore the track record of the production source is silly.
 
One of the biggest issues is that there is no standard. Each source seems to have their bar set at different heights.

It also doesn't help that we have members that run off at the mouth before they have all the information needed to establish a clear conclusion.

This along with the blatant stupidity that goes on in source threads and behind the scenes, it is now crystal clear to me why some of Meso's most respected members don't bother coming into the underground forum anymore.
There’s so much bullshit here I smell it through my iPhone. You or I have no idea of the back door pm shady shit that goes on. But god forbid someone says something you’ll be attacked for your opinion.
 
One of the biggest issues is that there is no standard. Each source seems to have their bar set at different heights.

It also doesn't help that we have members that run off at the mouth before they have all the information needed to establish a clear conclusion.

This along with the blatant stupidity that goes on in source threads and behind the scenes, it is now crystal clear to me why some of Meso's most respected members don't bother coming into the underground forum anymore.

I'm certainly not a meso historian but when I've read back the vetting has always been a mix bag of everything you've just said. The insults just aren't as creative anymore.

As far as the different standards, you're probably right but someone would need to live here 24/7 to keep up with all these source threads and fuckery.
 
My useless opinion, Although we need to keep vetting sources (TGI) since when did Jano and WM fall of the source list? They are still sources of testing, who's to say they don't have motive to fake tests (jano) or take a payoff to help put a source under. If we're going to give a creatine source constant vetting, why aren't we going to give the testing source a constant vetting? We have no clue who is behind Jano or WM, to automatically trust the testing source and ignore the track record of the production source is silly.
Dude I was all about holding these sources accountable! I’d see a bad test result and dive straight in. I was being very naive!
I can’t take anything back now but I can try to adjust and do things a little better! Testing is important for sure! How important is it though when the data it provides isn’t reliable!? It isn’t worth the paper it’s written on then!!!

I say I was naive and here’s why. I thought that if I didn’t see anything that was shady then I didn’t have any reason to doubt it. That kind of thinking had me blinded from what I saw and what was actually taking place! I didn’t see the shadiness even though looking back now I think it was plan to see. I got caught up too much with testing in general!

I’m not shilling for @Weights & Measures

As of right now I haven’t seen anything that has shown that he has been shady once. He’s been called out many times and has proven his case (to me) each time. For now as far as testing goes he will be the only one that I will trust with testing reports. I will of course try to keep a closer eye on things from here on out now.
Crazy shit has went down, I’m gonna use it as a learning experience. Hopefully I can grow from it and I’m hopeful others will as well.
 
Dude I was all about holding these sources accountable! I’d see a bad test result and dive straight in. I was being very naive!
I can’t take anything back now but I can try to adjust and do things a little better! Testing is important for sure! How important is it though when the data it provides isn’t reliable!? It isn’t worth the paper it’s written on then!!!

I say I was naive and here’s why. I thought that if I didn’t see anything that was shady then I didn’t have any reason to doubt it. That kind of thinking had me blinded from what I saw and what was actually taking place! I didn’t see the shadiness even though looking back now I think it was plan to see. I got caught up too much with testing in general!

I’m not shilling for @Weights & Measures

As of right now I haven’t seen anything that has shown that he has been shady once. He’s been called out many times and has proven his case (to me) each time. For now as far as testing goes he will be the only one that I will trust with testing reports. I will of course try to keep a closer eye on things from here on out now.
Crazy shit has went down, I’m gonna use it as a learning experience. Hopefully I can grow from it and I’m hopeful others will as well.

Shut it before I slap ya with my d
 
Currently eating about 4.3k calories and 500 grams of carbs on 700mg tren ace a week and I’m still constantly fucking hungry! I keep getting more vascular even though I’m eating a shit ton of food too. Have veins in my obliques I’ve never seen before even after already reaching 400g of carbs in the day.

Shit is stupid. I literally feel like cattle on the way to slaughter, only I’m the one doing the slaughtering.
 
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