Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

[Oldschool]

I'm still NOT KNOCKING HIS TESTING.

I think he gets a lot of it right. How do i know what he tested wasn't altered? How do i know he didn't alter it? 100 possible scenarios.

I am knocking the ethic behind the testing and the motive.

There was more to that whole situation other than just a mistake by jano. Guaranteed.

Timing of other clowns coming into the thread just justifies that.

Really got a kick out of the fact that two banned members using other handles were in it at the same time.

You done got in someones pocket titter. Lol.

 

[T-Bagger]

Guys I'm wrapping up for tonight. Been a rough couple days and my old bones tell me they need more sleep.

I will announce via pm instructions to my new list members in the morning.

Y'all have a good one.

Nighty night Titter. Wet dreams! I mean sweet dreams!

 

[bolder]

I'm still NOT KNOCKING HIS TESTING.

I think he gets a lot of it right. How do i know what he tested wasn't altered? How do i know he didn't alter it? 100 possible scenarios.

I am knocking the ethic behind the testing and the motive.

For me that is what makes his testing VOID!
If I can’t trust the guy behind the testing then I definitely can’t trust the testing either!

 

[mp46]

I'm moving your question here, because it's kind of the general question thread lol and I'm not trying to help shithead make a better product. And TGI might actually chime in here if he feels so inclined

So testing your raws first is a must to see what you're dealing with purity wise. How much can go wrong in the brewing process to fuck up your finished product? I guess the question is how hard is it to make test cyp 250 actually 250?

Not hard at all, Look at someone else, they made 300mg eq at like 300.3 it could be luck, but I think the guy is smart enough to do some basic math, you just have to keep all your numbers straight. There are calculators online that can even break everything down for you. For the basic home brewer you just need to know the volumetric density of the raw, solvents (ba/bb,etc) and the oil. It's important because the raw is measured by weight but everything else is by volume and you want weight of AAS per volume of carrier, or put another way that we know, mg/ml.

Take test cyp for example. If you wan't 250mg/ml and you want 10 vials(100ml), that means you need 25 grams of test. At a 2/18 ba/bb you already know 2% and 18% by volume is going to be those, so 2ml and 18ml, that leaves you 80ml in the brew. We know that test cyp displaces .909ml for every gram, this is where the converting of mg to ml is important. So at 100% purity we need 25g of test multiplied by .909 which is 22.72ml of space the 25 grams is going to take, if it were pure. That leaves us at 52.28ml of oil needed, 20ml of solvents, 42.72ml worth of raw and 52.28 of oil =100ml and a total of concentration of 250mg/ml

Now if that raw is 96% pure and assuming the other 4% of crap is the same volumetric density as the test, you're actually getting 240mg/ml so to compensate we need to divide 250(what we want) by 240(what we have) and that gives us 1.0416 so we need to overdose by 4.16%. Take the 25g at 96% times 1.0416 and we have 26.04g. We go back and start from scratch; 2ml BA, 18ml BB, call it 26 grams test cyp at .909 = 23.634ml. That totals 43.634 so far, so we need 56.336ml oil.

It may all seem trivial and sometimes it is, at a source level making 1L batches that's a difference of 10g of raw and about 10ml of oil but when you're paying $5 for tren or $15/g for primo that's 50-150 a brew. again, insignificant to most people, but that's quality, and that's what sets people apart.

 

[iceman440]

For me that is what makes his testing VOID!
If I can’t trust the guy behind the testing then I definitely can’t trust the testing either!

hence my issue with joedady? But everyone defended him lol

 

[bolder]

The hell? Friends don’t let friends not tren

When you’re right you’re right....

There was more to that whole situation other than just a mistake by jano. Guaranteed.

Timing of other clowns coming into the thread just justifies that.

Really got a kick out of the fact that two banned members using other handles were in it at the same time.

You done got in someones pocket titter. Lol.

Everything about that entire situation was shady lookin! I doubt it was a mistake by Jano, he knew what he was ‘trying’ to do!
I’ve been on the fence with him for quite sometime now. This incident just helped me realize what a lot of others already knew.... at the end of the day it’s always about the money! IMO...

 

[Urgentfury12]

hence my issue with joedady? But everyone defended him lol

You best not be referring me to as everyone
Pretty damn sure I said we got some assholes with agendas. You’re on thin Ice”man” again

 

[bolder]

hence my issue with joedady? But everyone defended him lol

He’s done tons of testing that was appreciated. It seemed to be helping everyone including himself...

I think most knew that he was a reseller and was using the store credits for his benefit. Which was totally fine btw. I think he was gaining from the testing more than he ever lost. Which is definitely fine as well.

My own beliefs is that Jano was the little voice in his ear to try and persuade him to Janos ways of thinking.

I feel like they were playin the community. Then this last current event casted a big shade and has me doubting everything that has been done up to this point.

Testing is a great tool to help ones self and the people of the community until it’s used in a deceiving manner.
I’m in no way telling anyone to not test products or not believe the results that are posted by either of the testing services here, or any members here.

I just know who I’ll look out for when I see them posting...

(Just my personal opinions)

 

[iceman440]

You best not be referring me to as everyone
Pretty damn sure I said we got some assholes with agendas. You’re on thin Ice”man” again

Hell no, your no white knight

 

[iceman440]

He’s done tons of testing that was appreciated. It seemed to be helping everyone including himself...

I think most knew that he was a reseller and was using the store credits for his benefit. Which was totally fine btw. I think he was gaining from the testing more than he ever lost. Which is definitely fine as well.

My own beliefs is that Jano was the little voice in his ear to try and persuade him to Janos ways of thinking.

I feel like they were playin the community. Then this last current event casted a big shade and has me doubting everything that has been done up to this point.

Testing is a great tool to help ones self and the people of the community until it’s used in a deceiving manner.
I’m in no way telling anyone to not test products or not believe the results that are posted by either of the testing services here, or any members here.

I just know who I’ll look out for when I see them posting...

(Just my personal opinions)

Yeah, but here’s what everyone is doing. Getting pissed at jano because he is looking out for himself and not the community.

Joe daddy does it and everyone just keeps going to the fact that he does the testing. It’s no different.

Look I’m glad that the guy test gear, and I could give two shits that he re-Sells. But like you said, how can you trust someone that isn’t out for the community first.

I also believe there are two many people with agendas trying to either sabotage or make others look better than what they are.

I do have full faith that @TitaniumGear (TGI) is not a sellout.

I’m over all of it anyways

 

[TitaniumGear (TGI)]

I'm moving your question here, because it's kind of the general question thread lol and I'm not trying to help shithead make a better product. And TGI might actually chime in here if he feels so inclined



Not hard at all, Look at someone else, they made 300mg eq at like 300.3 it could be luck, but I think the guy is smart enough to do some basic math, you just have to keep all your numbers straight. There are calculators online that can even break everything down for you. For the basic home brewer you just need to know the volumetric density of the raw, solvents (ba/bb,etc) and the oil. It's important because the raw is measured by weight but everything else is by volume and you want weight of AAS per volume of carrier, or put another way that we know, mg/ml.

Take test cyp for example. If you wan't 250mg/ml and you want 10 vials(100ml), that means you need 25 grams of test. At a 2/18 ba/bb you already know 2% and 18% by volume is going to be those, so 2ml and 18ml, that leaves you 80ml in the brew. We know that test cyp displaces .909ml for every gram, this is where the converting of mg to ml is important. So at 100% purity we need 25g of test multiplied by .909 which is 22.72ml of space the 25 grams is going to take, if it were pure. That leaves us at 52.28ml of oil needed, 20ml of solvents, 42.72ml worth of raw and 52.28 of oil =100ml and a total of concentration of 250mg/ml

Now if that raw is 96% pure and assuming the other 4% of crap is the same volumetric density as the test, you're actually getting 240mg/ml so to compensate we need to divide 250(what we want) by 240(what we have) and that gives us 1.0416 so we need to overdose by 4.16%. Take the 25g at 96% times 1.0416 and we have 26.04g. We go back and start from scratch; 2ml BA, 18ml BB, call it 26 grams test cyp at .909 = 23.634ml. That totals 43.634 so far, so we need 56.336ml oil.

It may all seem trivial and sometimes it is, at a source level making 1L batches that's a difference of 10g of raw and about 10ml of oil but when you're paying $5 for tren or $15/g for primo that's 50-150 a brew. again, insignificant to most people, but that's quality, and that's what sets people apart.

This is all exactly right. You have mentioned before about lab balances and also in another thread mentioned graduated cylinders vs. Syringe measurements and how the residual components left behind in the cylinder will also throw off your final numerical value, volume and of course concentration. That is the one thing that I do implement but have a work around to ensure i still remain fairly accurate (barring a mistake is not made in the entire process).

I don't want to say here step by step how i get so close to target but @mp46 will know if you have the proper equipment there is a way to know exactly how much was left in the cylinder.

@mp46 you're really studied at the methodology and it is quite obvious, so without insulting your intelligence i will just say if you want to know the step by step of how i do this without a syringe full of liquid at a time you can always PM me.

Costs factored for me are substantial. I use expensive stuff that i have proven to be effective. Even my mct oil. Its $100/gallon. So if i lose a batch or botch a batch, much more than raws cost is lost.

Displacement is key as well, another reason i was at a loss for being initially "off" about EQ dosing. EQ raw being a liquid...displace 1ml/1ml, of course. Everything else is less than that.

The is also instrument variance as well. If raws are tested at 99.5% by instrument "A" and oil is tested by instrument "B", there will be a variable. Even the same instrument will have a slight variation on the same sample.

I’m over all of it anyways

Me too. Let the shit die.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Guys I'm wrapping up for tonight. Been a rough couple days and my old bones tell me they need more sleep.

I will announce via pm instructions to my new list members in the morning.

Y'all have a good one.

Members.

Is there a card? Or a decoder ring? Jackets maybe? Feel like I’m being stiffed.

 

[TitaniumGear (TGI)]

Members.

Is there a card? Or a decoder ring? Jackets maybe? Feel like I’m being stiffed.

Stiff-ied.

 

[TitaniumGear (TGI)]

My 5 closest guesses to my number have been notified. Looks like a mix of old and new clients. Thanks for participating everyone. Maybe again next month? We will see.

 

[T-Bagger]

Glutamine didn’t work for me at all.
A prescription is better than nothing if it gives relief.
Or just not take anything that gives you heartburn, like Tren...

Eh, screw the Rx. There are enough OTC meds out there so that you don’t waste your money going to a doctor.

 

[Brawny]

Eh, screw the Rx. There are enough OTC meds out there so that you don’t waste your money going to a doctor.

Along with the long term health effects of using omeprazole

Honestly I believe if you keep your diet dialed in, you can keep the heartburn manageable. I found certain food, eating too close to bed or drinking sour workout drinks flared mine up when I was lifting

 

[The ole man]

Well it seems I missed out on something. And from the sounds of it I don’t even want to know.
Anyway had a good workout yesterday as well as a good nights sleep.
Steak and eggs for breakfast and ready for my first day back to work.
Took .5 adex yesterday
Still on my cruise of 150 mg test e
Can’t wait to run this npp/tpp soon.

 

[TitaniumGear (TGI)]

Well it seems I missed out on something. And from the sounds of it I don’t even want to know.
Anyway had a good workout yesterday as well as a good nights sleep.
Steak and eggs for breakfast and ready for my first day back to work.
Took .5 adex yesterday
Still on my cruise of 150 mg test e
Can’t wait to run this npp/tpp soon.

@Urgentfury12 started his run with DHB yesterday. Lots of folks kicking off the summer blast!

 

[The ole man]

@Urgentfury12 started his run with DHB yesterday. Lots of folks kicking off the summer blast!

Ya I plan to be right behind them.
Think I’m gonna start June 1st just to make it easy on keeping track.
I think I remember somebody else just starting their npp/tpp run too. Can’t remember who since I’ve been kinda away from the thread for the last week.

 

[The ole man]

Ya I plan to be right behind them.
Think I’m gonna start June 1st just to make it easy on keeping track.
I think I remember somebody else just starting their npp/tpp run too. Can’t remember who since I’ve been kinda away from the thread for the last week.

I’m kicking myself in the butt for not ordering some aromasin with my last order. I think I got enough adex but was dumb of me to have not ordered 30 tabs of it.