Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

I’ve been following along for the past few days. The reality of the situation is this is MESO. It’s not your god-given right to be here. And Millard isn’t going to cater to anyone. It’s delusional to think complaints about strong language will be listened to. Start a “suggestions box” thread and see how that goes for you.

Sources are here through a loophole but they aren’t needed and since they pay nothing they are owed nothing.

I hope everyone picked up on CBS’s indication that “this is a reset”. This could be the very best source in the entire world except that doesn’t mean shit at MESO because if we collectively hold the source accountable at all times then WE are in the drivers seat. Being a popular source is even harder. If we start going gushy fanboy with stars in our eyes for the source then newbs see that, lurkers see that and fuck a duck, the whole accountability system falls apart - the source is in control and we’re all going to get hurt in the end by that.

So for all sources, there is no g2g here, even if it’s tested, even if there’s all kinds of satisfied people, even if the source does everything to make us happy little boys and girls, because it can all turn to shit if there’s an opportunity to make money and greed takes over.

The source reset isn’t an attack unless you make it one by being defensive. Sit back and read, or don’t. Learn from it. But it should be really obvious at this point there is going to be absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop this. It’s a reset so it’s going to be just as crude as the initial vetting should always be.

And in the end if all is well the source will remain here. This is how everything in life goes. Change and adaptions. Natural selection takes over. The strong survive and the weak get killed.
 
I’ve been following along for the past few days. The reality of the situation is this is MESO. It’s not your god-given right to be here. And Millard isn’t going to cater to anyone. It’s delusional to think complaints about strong language will be listened to. Start a “suggestions box” thread and see how that goes for you.

Sources are here through a loophole but they aren’t needed and since they pay nothing they are owed nothing.

I hope everyone picked up on CBS’s indication that “this is a reset”. This could be the very best source in the entire world except that doesn’t mean shit at MESO because if we collectively hold the source accountable at all times then WE are in the drivers seat. Being a popular source is even harder. If we start going gushy fanboy with stars in our eyes for the source then newbs see that, lurkers see that and fuck a duck, the whole accountability system falls apart - the source is in control and we’re all going to get hurt in the end by that.

So for all sources, there is no g2g here, even if it’s tested, even if there’s all kinds of satisfied people, even if the source does everything to make us happy little boys and girls, because it can all turn to shit if there’s an opportunity to make money and greed takes over.

The source reset isn’t an attack unless you make it one by being defensive. Sit back and read, or don’t. Learn from it. But it should be really obvious at this point there is going to be absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop this. It’s a reset so it’s going to be just as crude as the initial vetting should always be.

And in the end if all is well the source will remain here. This is how everything in life goes. Change and adaptions. Natural selection takes over. The strong survive and the weak get killed.
Stfu, you worthless ass kisser. You have sucked so much cock your protein needs for the next 6 months have been met.
 
I’ve been following along for the past few days. The reality of the situation is this is MESO. It’s not your god-given right to be here. And Millard isn’t going to cater to anyone. It’s delusional to think complaints about strong language will be listened to. Start a “suggestions box” thread and see how that goes for you.

Sources are here through a loophole but they aren’t needed and since they pay nothing they are owed nothing.

I hope everyone picked up on CBS’s indication that “this is a reset”. This could be the very best source in the entire world except that doesn’t mean shit at MESO because if we collectively hold the source accountable at all times then WE are in the drivers seat. Being a popular source is even harder. If we start going gushy fanboy with stars in our eyes for the source then newbs see that, lurkers see that and fuck a duck, the whole accountability system falls apart - the source is in control and we’re all going to get hurt in the end by that.

So for all sources, there is no g2g here, even if it’s tested, even if there’s all kinds of satisfied people, even if the source does everything to make us happy little boys and girls, because it can all turn to shit if there’s an opportunity to make money and greed takes over.

The source reset isn’t an attack unless you make it one by being defensive. Sit back and read, or don’t. Learn from it. But it should be really obvious at this point there is going to be absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop this. It’s a reset so it’s going to be just as crude as the initial vetting should always be.

And in the end if all is well the source will remain here. This is how everything in life goes. Change and adaptions. Natural selection takes over. The strong survive and the weak get killed.
I sincerely disagree with the notion that a belligerent attack out of nowhere is a valuable activity. What exactly is being reset? What information is being collected and shared to enhance the goal of this forum which has been stated to be harm reduction? Because all it SEEMS to be is a good ol boys club jumping in hard to a thread they’d previously been absent from and insulting everyone who isn’t one of them or doesn’t bend a knee to some assumed level of importance bestowed by their join date.

If there are genuine intentions they need not be introduced with arbitrary attacks on members and accusations with zero evidence.

If there’s value added here, what the fuck is it? I’ve been accused by individuals who have no prior interaction with me of being a paid shill and using my training work here with Meso clients to pedal drugs with absolutely NO proof or even a visible inkling of probable cause. As stated before; who’s actually doing hard reduction work here? Guys blasting a source who’s on the straight and narrow or the guy advocating for diet and training before grams of gear?

So I ask again, what exactly is going on here that’s adding value? Or did someone just get upset a source is maintaining a standard others can’t meet? @TitaniumGear (TGI) can handle himself. Tell me why I’m a subject of this, though. Anyone. Go ahead. All ears. Spill the fucking beans. With any shred of proof that I’ve done anything not on the level in my time here. You’d be lying and wasting your time to say you have any, but by all means. Make an attempt.
 
BBBG I agree with a fair amount of what you’ve said. The one minor issue I take and please correct me if I’m wrong—I can take criticism and am always willing to learn, is that I think sources do have a role here.

They drive site traffic. Site traffic drives visits. More visits equals more revenue and the ability to charge higher rates for advertising.

We see the same exact shit with the media today. Put out some juicy headline or generate a controversy to drive those damn clicks!

I have no idea nor am i saying that sources drive the bulk of revenue for the site. I just know for me personally I found MESO looking for a source and instead found some pretty cool people and a wealth of information to keep me learning for a decade.

Maybe the idea that money drives everything isn’t so far fetched.
 
I sincerely disagree with the notion that a belligerent attack out of nowhere is a valuable activity. What exactly is being reset? What information is being collected and shared to enhance the goal of this forum which has been stated to be harm reduction? Because all it SEEMS to be is a good ol boys club jumping in hard to a thread they’d previously been absent from and insulting everyone who isn’t one of them or doesn’t bend a knee to some assumed level of importance bestowed by their join date.

If there are genuine intentions they need not be introduced with arbitrary attacks on members and accusations with zero evidence.

If there’s value added here, what the fuck is it? I’ve been accused by individuals who have no prior interaction with me of being a paid shill and using my training work here with Meso clients to pedal drugs with absolutely NO proof or even a visible inkling of probable cause. As stated before; who’s actually doing hard reduction work here? Guys blasting a source who’s on the straight and narrow or the guy advocating for diet and training before grams of gear?

So I ask again, what exactly is going on here that’s adding value? Or did someone just get upset a source is maintaining a standard others can’t meet? @TitaniumGear (TGI) can handle himself. Tell me why I’m a subject of this, though. Anyone. Go ahead. All ears. Spill the fucking beans. With any shred of proof that I’ve done anything not on the level in my time here. You’d be lying and wasting your time to say you have any, but by all means. Make an attempt.
Nothing of value in any of this, this shit wasn’t even started as some great crusade to protect meso. It was started because one asshole didn’t get the welcome he felt he was entitled to, He wanted attention.
 
And while we’re on the subject of harm reduction and sources on Meso...

IF you’re in the camp that believes sources don’t belong here, I ask for your logic. Aside from Meso inherently not being a source board (it isn’t; sources don’t pay, sponsor, or gain favor with mods by being here), please explain.

Because it is NOT hard to connect the dots between a vetted source third party testing raws and finished products being the a major staple of harm reduction in the world of UGL PED use.

ONTOP of that, it is nearly guaranteed, if you believe in Meso as it is, that there IS NO PROTECTIONISM of sources by our moderator. What does that mean? No issues swept under the rug or members banned because a source made a mistake or somebody had an issue. It means there’s ZERO money changing hands other than paying customers supporting a reliable source and said source contributing FREQUENTLY AND IN LARGE AMOUNTS to a harm reduction steroid testing operation that has NEVER BENEFITTED HIM WHATSOEVER as far as testing his gear.

It doesn’t matter what source it is. Sources on the straight and narrow that continue to do right by Meso members are ACTIVE HARM REDUCTION.
 
I sincerely disagree with the notion that a belligerent attack out of nowhere is a valuable activity. What exactly is being reset? What information is being collected and shared to enhance the goal of this forum which has been stated to be harm reduction? Because all it SEEMS to be is a good ol boys club jumping in hard to a thread they’d previously been absent from and insulting everyone who isn’t one of them or doesn’t bend a knee to some assumed level of importance bestowed by their join date.

If there are genuine intentions they need not be introduced with arbitrary attacks on members and accusations with zero evidence.

If there’s value added here, what the fuck is it? I’ve been accused by individuals who have no prior interaction with me of being a paid shill and using my training work here with Meso clients to pedal drugs with absolutely NO proof or even a visible inkling of probable cause. As stated before; who’s actually doing hard reduction work here? Guys blasting a source who’s on the straight and narrow or the guy advocating for diet and training before grams of gear?

So I ask again, what exactly is going on here that’s adding value? Or did someone just get upset a source is maintaining a standard others can’t meet? @TitaniumGear (TGI) can handle himself. Tell me why I’m a subject of this, though. Anyone. Go ahead. All ears. Spill the fucking beans. With any shred of proof that I’ve done anything not on the level in my time here. You’d be lying and wasting your time to say you have any, but by all means. Make an attempt.

I have no clue the reason you personally or anyone here was attacked. But @Urgentfury12 thinks I’m a cocksucker for providing a calm summary of what is going on. I didn’t even provide my opinion at all. That makes me a cocksucker kiss ass or whatever.

There’s guys in this thread that are extremely active. That makes them shills. They get extremely defensive about that. And it looks even MORE suspicious when it’s the same handful of guys fighting back to every post by BB69 and Brutus.

Nobody defends a source on MESO. And if you get all upset about words on the screen then simply turn the screen off the words disappear. But if you’re going to sneak a peek then don’t be surprised if it’s occasionally negative.

And you guys are missing the point. This is a harm reduction site not a source board. Sources add no value so bashing in a source thread takes away zero. If the source gets pissed off at a few sticks and stones will break bones words then they can leave the money on the table and walk out. Point to one that would ever do that? There’s money here so the source will stay. There’s no cuddling with the source needed.
 
I have no clue the reason you personally or anyone here was attacked. But @Urgentfury12 thinks I’m a cocksucker for providing a calm summary of what is going on. I didn’t even provide my opinion at all. That makes me a cocksucker kiss ass or whatever.

There’s guys in this thread that are extremely active. That makes them shills. They get extremely defensive about that. And it looks even MORE suspicious when it’s the same handful of guys fighting back to every post by BB69 and Brutus.

Nobody defends a source on MESO. And if you get all upset about words on the screen then simply turn the screen off the words disappear. But if you’re going to peak then don’t be surprised if it’s occasionally negative.

And you guys are missing the point. This is a harm reduction site not a source board. Sources add no value so bashing in a source thread takes away zero. If the source gets pissed off at a few sticks and stones will break bones words then they can leave the money on the table and walk out. Point to one that would ever do that? There’s money here so the source will stay. There’s no cuddling with the source needed.
Read my last. You’re not considering the whole picture. So keep defending this shit for the sake of it. We’re not on the same page. Never will be.

And don’t hit me with “suspicious.” I’m a man. You threaten me and question my integrity for no reason and I’ll respond every fucking time. You want to talk violence? Doubling down. Unacceptable behavior towards me does not demand that I step down. So fuck that.
 
Tell me why I’m a subject of this, though. Anyone. Go ahead. All ears. Spill the fucking beans. With any shred of proof that I’ve done anything not on the level in my time here. You’d be lying and wasting your time to say you have any, but by all means. Make an attempt.

I quoted this as this is my reaction to this great "reset" as well.
 
Read my last. You’re not considering the whole picture. So keep defending this shit for the sake of it. We’re not on the same page. Never will be.

Typing at the same time you were so I didn’t get a chance yet to read your other post is all.

I’m not trying to persuade you. I’m allowed to post and you’re allowed to post. There’s a shit-ton of other guys here though. I’m sure some will disagree and some will agree with both of us.
 
I have no clue the reason you personally or anyone here was attacked. But @Urgentfury12 thinks I’m a cocksucker for providing a calm summary of what is going on. I didn’t even provide my opinion at all. That makes me a cocksucker kiss ass or whatever.

There’s guys in this thread that are extremely active. That makes them shills. They get extremely defensive about that. And it looks even MORE suspicious when it’s the same handful of guys fighting back to every post by BB69 and Brutus.

Nobody defends a source on MESO. And if you get all upset about words on the screen then simply turn the screen off the words disappear. But if you’re going to sneak a peek then don’t be surprised if it’s occasionally negative.

And you guys are missing the point. This is a harm reduction site not a source board. Sources add no value so bashing in a source thread takes away zero. If the source gets pissed off at a few sticks and stones will break bones words then they can leave the money on the table and walk out. Point to one that would ever do that? There’s money here so the source will stay. There’s no cuddling with the source needed.

Titanium can defend himself. The guys fighting back were attacked. Me, Mac, urgent, mp.... called shills, racist, paid shills, fake valor

Glad you can once again only see it from the corporate side
 
If you defend a convicted felon questioning my intentions and integrity out of left field with no relevant supporting information we have nothing further to discuss. You and I are not the same.

This behavior isn’t excused because some guy did something one time and it panned out. I can throw shit at the wall and get something to stick every 5yrs too if I cared enough.

So you nitwits carry on with your Meso Black-Ops. I’ll be here doing exactly what I’ve been doing and you’ll find some new squirrel to chase in the name of tinfoil hat wearing righteousness. I’m sure of it.
 
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Stfu, you worthless ass kisser. You have sucked so much cock your protein needs for the next 6 months have been met.

This'll s how you respond to someone that just took the time to write a thoughtful post?

Rather than fantasizing about performing fellatio, try reading what he actually wrote. You *might* learn something. Then again, you might just become aroused and goJack off again.
 
This'll s how you respond to someone that just took the time to write a thoughtful post?

Rather than fantasizing about performing fellatio, try reading what he actually wrote. You *might" learn something. Then again, you might just become aroused and goJack off again.
What’s wrong with jacking off...

More productive than anything going on here right now.

Also, there’s some history there maybe you’re unaware of. Regarding another apparent “old guard” member who conveniently isn’t with us anymore, at least not that we know of, though I’m sure he’s here watching. :rolleyes:
 
If you defend a convicted felon questioning my intentions and integrity out of left field with no relevant support information we have nothing further to discuss. You and I are not the same.

This behavior isn’t excused because some guy did something one time and it panned out. I can throw shit at the wall and get something to stick every 5yrs too if I cared enough.

So you nitwits carry on with your Meso Black-Ops. I’ll be here doing exactly what I’ve been doing and you’ll find some new squirrel to chase in the name of tinfoil hat wearing righteousness. I’m sure of it.

I run a 2 for 1 special on tin foil hats.

Also guys, for the last time no longer taking dick pics for payments. That was only for the first 10 years
 
This'll s how you respond to someone that just took the time to write a thoughtful post?

Rather than fantasizing about performing fellatio, try reading what he actually wrote. You *might* learn something. Then again, you might just become aroused and goJack off again.

This is exactly what I did. Try to learn something from and discard what I don’t agree with.

But I’m not the one that had my integrity questioned so I completely understand the response.
 
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