Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

[mp46]

They pulled blood so we’ll see if they run a hormone panel. No way tren or mig did this so TRT is the excuse if they bring it up. I’ll just have to follow up with my primary as to why my test level is 3,000

They took X-ray and put me on morphine. There’s one spot near my stomach that has me ballin my eyes out when the doctor touches it so it’s probably macbuilts fault for having me eat all this food.

 

[really small guy]

My buddy asked.me how long after last EQ shot is it ok to start PCT. I was gonna tell him 4 weeks, but then I feel like for some reason I remember 6 weeks. Then I read some stuff that some says 4.. some says 6... Does anyone know? Don't want to give him bad info

 

[Mac11wildcat]

My buddy asked.me how long after last EQ shot is it ok to start PCT. I was gonna tell him 4 weeks, but then I feel like for some reason I remember 6 weeks. Then I read some stuff that some says 4.. some says 6... Does anyone know? Don't want to give him bad info

4-6 would work...I think people overcomplicate it. Using enough PCT hcg/clomid/nolva and a long enough PCT period seems to be a bigger obstacle.

What test isn’t he on?

 

[really small guy]

4-6 would work...I think people overcomplicate it. Using enough PCT hcg/clomid/nolva and a long enough PCT period seems to be a bigger obstacle.

What test isn’t he on?

He's on cyp along with the EQ. He is having ED issues .. I can't figure it out. He went from 500 test to 250. And he's having issues. He wants to get off and pct .. thinks he went too long on cycle.. I'm confused about it. I don't ever rly get ED unless I take high dose deca. But he says it's pretty bad. Idk.. I recommended pills for it. Like Viagra and Cialis. Idk what's going on with him

 

[really small guy]

4-6 would work...I think people overcomplicate it. Using enough PCT hcg/clomid/nolva and a long enough PCT period seems to be a bigger obstacle.

What test isn’t he on?

Will 50 mg clomid be Enough for him when there time comes ? Maybe since it's bad he needs to start higher?

I hate it cause he's not on meso... Doesn't do his own research that much.. comes to me with all the questions.. I try to do.my best giving him good info, but I keep telling him to get on this forum and read. He hasn't done it for a year.

 

[iceman440]

They pulled blood so we’ll see if they run a hormone panel. No way tren or mig did this so TRT is the excuse if they bring it up. I’ll just have to follow up with my primary as to why my test level is 3,000

They took X-ray and put me on morphine. There’s one spot near my stomach that has me ballin my eyes out when the doctor touches it so it’s probably macbuilts fault for having me eat all this food.

That’s a good theory, and I’ll even add more. Since Mac and Urgentfury are some sort of secret underground corporate shill twins, it’s now both their faults lol!

If he ask why your test is so High, just ask why his is so low? Not your fault you are a well oiled baby producing machine!

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Cyp is the bigger concern IMO.

5-6 weeks after last pin begun PCT. If he wasn’t on HCG that needs to be two large doses, tapered down to 500 EOD for a couple weeks. 50mg clomid for 4 weeks, 40 nolva for 4 weeks, 20 nolva for 2 weeks.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

He's on cyp along with the EQ. He is having ED issues .. I can't figure it out. He went from 500 test to 250. And he's having issues. He wants to get off and pct .. thinks he went too long on cycle.. I'm confused about it. I don't ever rly get ED unless I take high dose deca. But he says it's pretty bad. Idk.. I recommended pills for it. Like Viagra and Cialis. Idk what's going on with him

This will be broscience or parroting and I can’t cite it because I forget where I read it but supposedly even though EQ aromatizes there’s also another enzyme at work that converts EQ into an anti-estrogen or the net effect is such. So his estrogen level might be too low especially if he dropped his test to 250 and is taking the same dose of AI. He might want to lower his AI

Also, the EQ will keep him shut-down so he should run the the Test at least 2 weeks longer after dropping the EQ.

 

[really small guy]

This will be broscience or parroting and I can’t cite it because I forget where I read it but supposedly even though EQ aromatizes there’s also another enzyme at work that converts EQ into an anti-estrogen or the net effect is such. So his estrogen level might be too low especially if he dropped his test to 250 and is taking the same dose of AI. He might want to lower his AI

Also, the EQ will keep him shut-down so he should run the the Test at least 2 weeks longer after dropping the EQ.

I didn't know that about the EQ. Bro science or not, info is appreciated. Good to consider.. and I did let him know about running the test a little longer. Thanks man.

 

[mp46]

This will be broscience or parroting and I can’t cite it because I forget where I read it but supposedly even though EQ aromatizes there’s also another enzyme at work that converts EQ into an anti-estrogen or the net effect is such. So his estrogen level might be too low especially if he dropped his test to 250 and is taking the same dose of AI. He might want to lower his AI

Also, the EQ will keep him shut-down so he should run the the Test at least 2 weeks longer after dropping the EQ.

I know masteron is considered an anti estrogen, didn’t know about Eq having that property.

 

[Heavy Iron]

50mg clomid for 4 weeks, 40 nolva for 4 weeks, 20 nolva for 2 weeks

This is what I used to do. Also some people will "frontload" clomid 100-150 the first three days.

 

[mp46]

On another note, I started running TGI adex with this cycle, .5mg twice a week. I usually don’t because I don’t really get any symptoms from high e2 other than finding my emotions. However I did notice a huge drop in my acne so I’ll continue using it.

Hopefully this incident today sorts out quickly and I don’t miss anything. Aside from the pain I feel fine mentally and physically, I even debated on taking breakfast with me to the hospital as I laid in a ball on the bed.

 

[BigJ89]

This is what I used to do. Also some people will "frontload" clomid 100-150 the first three days.

No HCG?

 

[Heavy Iron]

No HCG?

I never did and I recovered okay. But that is poor judgement. I was misinformed and didn't do my research into it. This year I'm gonna come off and do a thorough PCT. And try to have one more kid. Then I'm done. Lol. So that will be interesting. I've been B&C for two years.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

If you’re coming off after a heavy cycle or b&c I have to stress using enough HCG.

2500 iu day 1 and 3, 1000iu day 5, 7, and 9, then 500iu EOD for the next week and a half. To the effect of ~15kiu total.

This may seem overkill but it ALWAYS worked and as long as you keep anti-e in for a bit you’re fine.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I’m at the end of my fucking rope with “anti-fraud” measures on credit cards. Fucking done.

 

[iceman440]

I’m at the end of my fucking rope with “anti-fraud” measures on credit cards. Fucking done.

Right!?!? Getting so much harder to fraud them

 

[JMpMasterSteve]

Everytime I’m finally able to get back on this thread there’s at least 100 pages worth of reading to catch up. I love it

 

[HockeyHead]

Everytime I’m finally able to get back on this thread there’s at least 100 pages worth of reading to catch up. I love it

And I've noticed about 97 of those pages are useless chatter. Oh well!

 

[TX_Hempknight]

If you’re coming off after a heavy cycle or b&c I have to stress using enough HCG.

2500 iu day 1 and 3, 1000iu day 5, 7, and 9, then 500iu EOD for the next week and a half. To the effect of ~15kiu total.

This may seem overkill but it ALWAYS worked and as long as you keep anti-e in for a bit you’re fine.

Thought I read that AI doesnt help with increased Estrogen from HCG because it bypasses something and the aromitization occurs outside the testes. Just discussing.