Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

It's funny Ej911. Why would a new member come in here and start shit? It's a big fucking conspiracy and everybody's a shill blah, blah, blah, ad nauseam. You obviously have some past history and a motive. I dont get people who do this shit then ask other men for nudes. See, I can make shit up too.
 
It's funny Ej911. Why would a new member come in here and start shit? It's a big fucking conspiracy and everybody's a shill blah, blah, blah, ad nauseam. You obviously have some past history and a motive. I dont get people who do this shit then ask other men for nudes. See, I can make shit up too.
He’s not a new member. He has already admitted to being a member of good standing here but is afraid of repercussions for coming forth. If I’m not mistaken, @Millard said that’s a no no and those accounts need combined.
 
He’s not a new member. He has already admitted to being a member of good standing here but is afraid of repercussions for coming forth. If I’m not mistaken, @Millard said that’s a no no and those accounts need combined.
I dont get the time and effort people put into making shit up on here. Who pissed him off so bad that he'd come back and do this?
 
I believe I read Millard saying he approves of alt handles. That we can post truthfully and without fear of retribution to our main account this way. He was implying that the alt handle was just making lab reviews but I feel this isn’t so different.

He’s not a new member. He has already admitted to being a member of good standing here but is afraid of repercussions for coming forth. If I’m not mistaken, @Millard said that’s a no no and those accounts need combined.
 
I believe I read Millard saying he approves of alt handles. That we can post truthfully and without fear of retribution to our main account this way. He was implying that the alt handle was just making lab reviews but I feel this isn’t so different.
Seeing as how TGI doesn’t even source here anymore and you’re just stirring the pot, I’d say your logic is flawed, but that’s MB’s decision.
 
No idea who that crazy fuck is but letting him run wild and openly allowing him to tell people on your forum that he's part of forum management as he's harassing them....never seen such a thing left unchecked so you get to own part of the blame for an outcome you don't like. Sorry but my 2 cents and I don't believe any logical impartial person would dispute that point.
Really? You think a rational impartial person would logically conclude that I am conspiring with multiple drug dealers to remove another drug dealer in order to sell narcotics because of ANYTHING that @biggerben69 might have said?

Of course, the premise of your argument is wrong. His claim to forum management was promptly checked and everyone in this thread repeatedly acknowledged that they never believed that he was part of forum management.

As far a logical and impartial application of the rules - and dispelling of bullshit, check this out:

Let me parse this for you:

biggerben69: My curiosity as to his board handle has to do if he is a banned member. That would be a conflict that could be an issue down the road. If I dissed him an apology and retraction will follow immediately upon my being made aware.

This means that Biggerben69 is threatening to expose @TitaniumGear (TGI) as a previously banned member.

Biggerben69: One request that I hope that you will reconsider is my backing off iceman. I have been informed that iceman may be another banned member.

This means that Biggerben69 is threatening to expose @iceman440 as a previously banned member.

As everyone in this thread knows very well, permanently banned members are not permitted to return with a new username.

I chastised you guys for protecting @CdnGuy for returning under a new username.

And ever since then, you guys eagerly exposed him each and every time he reappeared under a different username. At least 6 times if I recall correctly.

Biggerben69: One of the tech guys is attempting to match up IP addies while other members of the security team are conducting interviews as we speak to get the ID's of some members squared
away. If there is anything else I can do to make your stay more enjoyable please don't hesitate to hit me up. In fact, later this evening meso staff will be getting replacement burner phones for the quarter. Once I have it I will get you my number to put you in contact with me immediately should the situation call for swift action.


Biggerben claims MESO is investigating with a security team, conducting interviews in order to ""get the ID's of some members squared away".

He also implies that he is a MESO staff member awaiting his "replacement burner phone for the quarter".

First of all, the implication that Biggerben69 is, was, has been a MESO staff member is false and was quickly dismissed as such. Any interpretation of this statement to suggest that MESO was personally-identifying members was also dismissed.

There is no doxxing. There is no threat of doxxing.

@biggerben69 DID NOT POST personally-identifying information about any MESO-Rx member e.g. phone numbers, real names, addresses, etc. He DID NOT EVEN THREATEN to post personally-identifying information.

There is simply no violation of the rules. Not even close. You guys are promoting a false narrative in support of TGI.

Now to the real substance of his allegation:

Allegation: @TitaniumGear (TGI) and @iceman440 are usernames of previously banned MESO members.

@biggerben69 failed to substantiate his allegation.

I found no evidence to support it.

Case closed.
 
This is some strange stuff Millard. BB has been here pretty much since the inception of this forum and has always called MESO his home as long as I have known him.

Not making accusing for anyone but he has had a rough go the last year plus. He is usually spot on about slimy sources and doings. I know you know best in this particular case, but I think some perspective is needed. I've seen much worse on this site from guys that still parade here.

Thanks

It's good to see you @heady muscle .

But please read it again - @biggerben69 was not banned for doxxing.

This is a detailed explanation why:

Let me parse this for you:

biggerben69: My curiosity as to his board handle has to do if he is a banned member. That would be a conflict that could be an issue down the road. If I dissed him an apology and retraction will follow immediately upon my being made aware.

This means that Biggerben69 is threatening to expose @TitaniumGear (TGI) as a previously banned member.

Biggerben69: One request that I hope that you will reconsider is my backing off iceman. I have been informed that iceman may be another banned member.

This means that Biggerben69 is threatening to expose @iceman440 as a previously banned member.

As everyone in this thread knows very well, permanently banned members are not permitted to return with a new username.

I chastised you guys for protecting @CdnGuy for returning under a new username.

And ever since then, you guys eagerly exposed him each and every time he reappeared under a different username. At least 6 times if I recall correctly.

Biggerben69: One of the tech guys is attempting to match up IP addies while other members of the security team are conducting interviews as we speak to get the ID's of some members squared
away. If there is anything else I can do to make your stay more enjoyable please don't hesitate to hit me up. In fact, later this evening meso staff will be getting replacement burner phones for the quarter. Once I have it I will get you my number to put you in contact with me immediately should the situation call for swift action.


Biggerben claims MESO is investigating with a security team, conducting interviews in order to ""get the ID's of some members squared away".

He also implies that he is a MESO staff member awaiting his "replacement burner phone for the quarter".

First of all, the implication that Biggerben69 is, was, has been a MESO staff member is false and was quickly dismissed as such. Any interpretation of this statement to suggest that MESO was personally-identifying members was also dismissed.

There is no doxxing. There is no threat of doxxing.

@biggerben69 DID NOT POST personally-identifying information about any MESO-Rx member e.g. phone numbers, real names, addresses, etc. He DID NOT EVEN THREATEN to post personally-identifying information.

There is simply no violation of the rules. Not even close. You guys are promoting a false narrative in support of TGI.

Now to the real substance of his allegation:

Allegation: @TitaniumGear (TGI) and @iceman440 are usernames of previously banned MESO members.

@biggerben69 failed to substantiate his allegation.

I found no evidence to support it.

Case closed.

The short answer is that there was no doxxing involved.
 
He’s not a new member. He has already admitted to being a member of good standing here but is afraid of repercussions for coming forth. If I’m not mistaken, @Millard said that’s a no no and those accounts need combined.

I believe I read Millard saying he approves of alt handles. That we can post truthfully and without fear of retribution to our main account this way. He was implying that the alt handle was just making lab reviews but I feel this isn’t so different.

In general, the creation of multiple user accounts to self-promote is prohibited.

In paritcular, the creation of multiple user accounts for the primary purpose of covertly promoting the sale of AAS is categorically prohibited.

This obviously includes sources who including multiple (fake) accounts to self-promote and/or attack unsatisfied customers, critics or competitors.

However, there are instances where I have always strongly encourage members to create an alternate account. They should ALWAYS use a secondary account when discussing interactions with a source, especially negative interactions and experiences.

Sources are known to retaliate against members who post reviews or criticism that could adversely affect or threaten their business. The sources have your name and address. So it could be dangerous for members to publicly criticize sources. A secondary account is a reasonable precaution.

Other situations where multiple accounts may be permitted is when a member decides to source. The primary account could likely contain personally-identifying data given the amount information people tend to share as part of a community. There is expectation to force anyone to self-incriminate.

Other situations where multiple accounts are prohibited apply to banned members. Banned members are prohibited from circumventing their ban with additional user accounts.
 
In general, the creation of multiple user accounts to self-promote is prohibited.

In paritcular, the creation of multiple user accounts for the primary purpose of covertly promoting the sale of AAS is categorically prohibited.

This obviously includes sources who including multiple (fake) accounts to self-promote and/or attack unsatisfied customers, critics or competitors.

However, there are instances where I strongly encourage members to create an alternate account. They should ALWAYS use a secondary account when discussing interactions with a source, especially negative interactions and experiences.

Sources are known to retaliate against members who post reviews or criticism that could adversely affect their business. The sources have your name and address. So it could be dangerous for members to publicly criticize sources. A secondary account is a reasonable precaution.

Other situations where multiple accounts may be permitted is when a member decides to source. The primary account could likely contain personally-identifying data given the amount information people tend to share as part of a community. There is expectation to force anyone to self-incriminate.

Other situations where multiple accounts are prohibited apply to banned members. Banned members are prohibited from circumventing their ban with additional user accounts.
Thanks for entertaining today’s drama. Can you fix Meso? It’s acting really weird right now, making me confirm if I want to like a comment and not fully loading pages.
 
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