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A neighbor (Ricky Watson) publicly admitting calling the police and reporting "shots fired":



The two charges that left me scratching my head were:

PUBLIC INTOXICATION and UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER

Both of these seem to necessarily require behavior occurring on public property.

How could this occur on private property?

Maybe Sammie Vail met officers on the (public) street at the end of his driveway?

The gun charge is an automatic if the person is intoxicated with a concealed or nonconcealed gun:

PENAL CODE CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a shoulder or belt holster.


Crazy how gun laws differ. In my state, whatever your dwelling at the time is, be it your house, campsite, etc is considered your private property and your are allowed your weapon on your persons while intoxicated. I thought it would be different in Texas. Also, I wonder if shots were fired? From the looks of the driveway and people I know alike, I would say probably so. No cost like the cost of living high on life.
 
Public and private distinction on property is probably curtilage or not distinction. Can't say where he was standing or outside location exactly. This makes or breaks some cases and I'm assuming is the determining factor on such a charge of public intoxication (ie standing on the corner edge of your property feet off the street drunk as hell vs sitting on your private patio behind the house blasted out of your mind).
 
Exigent circumstances—like say the kind created by firing a gun in the house—gives LE a truckload of latitude. Tacking on public intoxication and improper handling of a firearm are probably necessary since those were the precipitating events that led to the search of the house. In other words, filing charges wrt the illegal drug activity but not filing the offenses that led to the search that uncovered said illegal drug activity would be unheard of. If you get into a fistfight with a cop after he pulls you over for speeding you’re still getting a speeding ticket. That it is the least of your worries at that point is irrelevant.
 
Its simple really They found a lab, no judge will throw anything out regardless of how they found out about it. They all work together the court system is fucking fraudulent. 'Ol TGI is going down for 5-10 years. End of story. Let it be a lesson for all "Home Brewers" & "UGL Labs" out there now....The littlest mistake can lead to catastrophic disasters.
 
There were at least two other people inside the house that were questioned by police.

The police did obtain a search warrant when they realized they stumbled upon a significant drug manufacturing operation. (Search warrant #41-14259F issued by Harrison County Justice of Peace Nancy George).

The search warrant gave local and federal officers (DEA) the authority to search and seize the drug lab.

Of course, the "plain view" discovery of the clandestine lab was only made possible by the warrantless search under claims of exigent circumstances.

Are the facts that a neighbor called 911 and reported shots fired and the presence of two people inside sufficient to establish exigent circumstances?

Did the behavior of the intoxicated suspects to resist and prevent officers from entering the property contributed to exigent circumstances?
alot of questions in this case from a procedural standpoint. if he saved enough money, and gets a good enough lawyer, he'll be fine. If not...
 
Its simple really They found a lab, no judge will throw anything out regardless of how they found out about it. They all work together the court system is fucking fraudulent. 'Ol TGI is going down for 5-10 years. End of story. Let it be a lesson for all "Home Brewers" & "UGL Labs" out there now....The littlest mistake can lead to catastrophic disasters.
really, you've been through this before?
 
really, you've been through this before?


No I have not but your a fucking idiot to think any court is just going to throw away an open and shut case like this. I will bet you right now a 12 week cycle of your choice from any source you desire if it gets thrown out on a baseless warrant or any technicality. I dont want anything in return that how sure i am of this. That dude is fucked no matter what. I dont care if he's got Johnny Cochran up in this bitch he is as good as gone 5-10 case closed.
 
No I have not but your a fucking idiot to think any court is just going to throw away an open and shut case like this. I will bet you right now a 12 week cycle of your choice from any source you desire if it gets thrown out on a baseless warrant or any technicality. I dont want anything in return that how sure i am of this. That dude is fucked no matter what. I dont care if he's got Johnny Cochran up in this bitch he is as good as gone 5-10 case closed.
and you're a fucking idiot if you think the courts in this country aren't controlled by how much money you have
 
You can pay your way out of the state.. but you can't pay your way out of the feds.

If he has no priors he will probably do a solid 4yrs. Possibly more.

40kilos of raws is ALOT of time
 
Everyone graduate detective school last week? LMFAO

Online law school webinars from the University of Phoenix.

It’s because this hit home for us all. TGI was supposed to be one of us and it’s sobering to think of the consequences. We all hope for the best while also expecting the worst. But there’s not going to be anything for a long couple months. These things drag out.

We should all taper off of this. There’s nothing “new” and we’re spinning our wheels regurgitating the same stuff now. [emoji106]
 
Online law school webinars from the University of Phoenix.

It’s because this hit home for us all. TGI was supposed to be one of us and it’s sobering to think of the consequences. We all hope for the best while also expecting the worst. But there’s not going to be anything for a long couple months. These things drag out.

We should all taper off of this. There’s nothing “new” and we’re spinning our wheels regurgitating the same stuff now. [emoji106]
Very well said. Let it fucking die.
 
Its simple really They found a lab, no judge will throw anything out regardless of how they found out about it. They all work together the court system is fucking fraudulent. 'Ol TGI is going down for 5-10 years. End of story. Let it be a lesson for all "Home Brewers" & "UGL Labs" out there now....The littlest mistake can lead to catastrophic disasters.
There’s plenty of lawyers depending on the circumstances that could get him out of this, especially if somehow it was determined to be an illegal search and seizure.
alot of questions in this case from a procedural standpoint. if he saved enough money, and gets a good enough lawyer, he'll be fine. If not...
^^^this right here
 
There’s plenty of lawyers depending on the circumstances that could get him out of this, especially if somehow it was determined to be an illegal search and seizure.

^^^this right here

^^^^^ thus right here x2

Fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. It’s there for a reason. That is, only if the search is ruled invalid. And if that is the case, most likely it would happen at the appellate level.

@Stinkfinger1112
 
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