I have a hard time believing someone with a meth habit could operate as well as TGI did.
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I have a hard time believing someone with a meth habit could operate as well as TGI did.
When WFN got busted they had over 28k orders on file with addresses and credit cards verifying identification. Not one person ever got a knock. Google WFN bust. They were selling 5 million a year in gear and some customers were buying +100k a year and reselling. Only 5 people were charged. Yes, if anyone here ever got knock hope we would all get notified. Cops were on this list and no one got their badge ripped from them.
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You may be surprised to learn that full-fledged addicts have run larger UGLs for much longer than TGI (but not necessarily same quality of product).I have a hard time believing someone with a meth habit could operate as well as TGI did.
The drug program was more out of necessity. Joel Pasternak struggled with drug addiction and began a "drug-related slide into intermittent functional incapacity” while he was running Hulkbody Labs according to federal prosecutors.
His older brother said this about him in court documents:
“[Joshua Pasternak] describes seeing the drug fueled, out of control behavior of his brother as one of the saddest moments of his life. One night, Joshua describes that his brother was on such a drug fueled high that he had to physically hold him down for quite a while until Joel fell asleep. Joshua truly believed that his brother was going to be dead before it was all over with and is grateful that he is still with the family and receiving the help that he needs.”
From court documents:
"Goodwin and Baumann Divided Responsibility, with Baumann Promoting the Organization and Handling Orders, and Goodwin Manufacturing the Steroids and Handling Inventory."
"Philip Goodwin... packaged these goods using counterfeit labels bearing the registered marks of a legitimate, global pharmaceutical company, providing his customers with indicia of quality, sterility, and safety belied by the fact that he manufactured and packaged the steroids—injectable pharmaceuticals—in his kitchen and basement, often while high on heroin.
You may be surprised to learn that full-fledged addicts have run larger UGLs for much longer than TGI (but not necessarily same quality of product).
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good post, hopefully has money squirreled away for a really really good lawyer. always remember, OJ got found not guiltyAlways sad to hear someone take a fall—here seems more self inflicted, but still sad. Given the specifics of the article and the driveway photo with all the burnouts—quite clear he didn’t give two fucks about drawing attention, which recklessness sooner or later has a price.
Will prove interesting to see what shakes out from what sounds like a warrantless search of his home under the claim of exigent circumstances. Without evidence of other folks in the household that could be inside and actually injured, gunshots and the two occupants of the home outside certainly seems to make exigency or search incident to arrest both problematic. Extremely expensive drunken night at the very least, with complete upheaval and turmoil of personal lives for the coming months at the very least—but cases predicated upon warrantless searches of homes without consent can go from sensational headlines to problematic for the state/govt. really quickly too. We shall see I guess.
No doubt , just crazy having a lab in your house then doing silly shit like that .It sounds like she isn’t on meth. The “picking marks” on her face were scrapes and scratches. Apparently from trying to keep the sheriffs from entering the property. She had to be tazed.
I’d probably loose my shit too hearing that they wanted to enter the residence and knowing what was going to happen when they discovered the lab room.
All could have been avoidable.
Should be keeping a low profile but what the fuck, look at the driveway. Neighbors must of loved the fucking burnouts. That’s why when a gunshot is heard they call 9-1-1 on the weird guy in the neighborhood.
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Thanks for that. Good advise to remember always.I would think that it would have been reported if more drugs were found like meth, heroin, ect... idk, maybe a toxicology report will come out at a later time? I feel like TGI wasn’t drugged out but who really knows???
That’s not really the point I wanted to make though.
This is...
Everyone should really take a step back and consider that when they order anything from a UGL that it is very doubtful to know if the brewer of the operation is on drugs or not. But it’s definitely a possibility!
We can do our best to vet these sources but in reality we have know clue to what their mindset is while brewing.
We take a BIG risk with every order we make. We can ask what steps they take to assure quality and sterility but really we don’t know what their actual process is.
If nothing else good comes from TGIs or Musclehead320s downfall, hopefully anyone that reads these threads will come to understand in more depth, that this shit will always carry a huge risk.
Before anyone decides to “take a chance” on any UGL source just realize there’s a lot more factors involved than just ordering a bottle of testosterone.
Weigh your options, do your research to be informed as much as possible, listen to fellow members, ask questions, then ask yourself is it worth all the risks that are involved?
We, ourselves, are the only ones that really care about our own health and well-being.
Be smart, stay safe guys!
LOL!!!have you ever used adderall? Side effects include heart palpitations, cold extremities, and a bachelors degree
Where did you find this out? no bath tub brew guess that’s a plusGood news is the lab was in an office building, so no bath tub brew...there was a sink with a dirty rag hanging on the faucet though.
That makes 2 East Texas Piney Woods UGL'S that have had trouble.Who brews gear to sell on a large scale at their own house? That's pretty stupid.
But I suppose so is shooting a gun inside your house when there's a steroid lab set up inside, so there's that...
Always sad to hear someone take a fall—here seems more self inflicted, but still sad. Given the specifics of the article and the driveway photo with all the burnouts—quite clear he didn’t give two fucks about drawing attention, which recklessness sooner or later has a price.
Will prove interesting to see what shakes out from what sounds like a warrantless search of his home under the claim of exigent circumstances. Without evidence of other folks in the household that could be inside and actually injured, gunshots and the two occupants of the home outside certainly seems to make exigency or search incident to arrest both problematic. Extremely expensive drunken night at the very least, with complete upheaval and turmoil of personal lives for the coming months at the very least—but cases predicated upon warrantless searches of homes without consent can go from sensational headlines to problematic for the state/govt. really quickly too. We shall see I guess.
Nice out look. The last part about giving the lab back made me laugh lol.Was thinking the same thing here... hope he gets a good lawyer, nothing "budget".
I don't know Texas law but I'm surprised a guy on his own 5 acres there would get hassled and home-searched by LE over some gunshots, let alone charged with drunkenness-anything while on his own property. Throw in the injuries on the woman's face for good measure (any corresponding harm to the officers?...) and it seems like all of this could get thrown out.
I doubt they'll give him back the lab tho.
Was thinking the same thing here... hope he gets a good lawyer, nothing "budget".
I don't know Texas law but I'm surprised a guy on his own 5 acres there would get hassled and home-searched by LE over some gunshots, let alone charged with drunkenness-anything while on his own property. Throw in the injuries on the woman's face for good measure (any corresponding harm to the officers?...) and it seems like all of this could get thrown out.
I doubt they'll give him back the lab tho.