Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

Well @biggerben69 is unsupervised now so anything is possible. :D
This is true. Panda talking about writing my po trying to get permission for me to travel to China. Bought special stationary. upload_2019-12-26_22-33-51.jpeg @purplepandalabs
I was on Federal Probation for a little more than 7yrs(supposed to be 5yrs). I gave the feds 21 months more inside while of supervised release. The original term was 60 months. If I was still "supervised" I would never get approved to go to china to visit pandas spot. He had previous felony convictions and I imagine has an indictment or 2 that are sealed. Feds would love to get him.
2 of my violations stemmed from traveling outside my district here in Ca., also. I never planned on being successful in completing probation. I also didn't plan on being found. A local Palm Springs PD snitch got me. A queer kid(37yrs old or so) my wife met while working at a retail clothing spot years ago. He sold narcotics and my wife and I actually posted up at his pad to run off local youngsters who were robbing him home invasion style monthly...sometimes 2 or 3 times in a month. Set up a security door to put some space between the door to enter the house. A security camera and monitor and we sat and waited 5 nights. Spread word that the guys cousin moved in and that open season was closed. He was grateful at the time. Met his mother when she flew in from Santiago, Chile. Sold me his Pharmacy test one night....the US Marshal's were at my pad the following morning.
I was in the wind for more than 2yrs. Would've never been found if not for the snitch. The same Marshal came for me all 3 times with 10 to 15 of his friends in tow.
He was taking a cheap shot, that panda. I just say what I have to say about him. He responds to my comments and questions with gems like "The answer is self evident." He thinks he's clever. I like that he shows up when I start in on him. I'm not sure I'll make it back going to visit and tour his warehouses. He's ok.
I told him I'd give a synopsis of his operation when I got back. I would post it here, I suppose.
I'm not pleased that this source got caught up. I could think of a half dozen scumbags I would rather have met their end the way this source did. It was circumstance that had us on opposite sides here.

He had to be a likable guy. Nevermind the fanbois and the dickriders/groupies that all well known drug dealers have. He seemed ok. Drug dealers are generally fun to be around. Its not an easy life to walk away from.
He needed to not have the lab where he laid his head. He should've been renting a place. He may have had plans to do so and just never got around to it?
I'm curious as to how his case is going to be handled? The state could have their way with him. He could be sentenced to state prison or county jail. When he's about 6 months or so to the door his case manager will let him know that he has a hold. That means instead of releasing to the street or to some kind of halfway house the feds will pick him up on a federal indictment and will have to face charges in the feds.
They will take his home with the indoor court and gym, bank accounts, cars...everything. With federal probation taken into consideration after his federal prison term along with this state time he's dealing with...I would estimate that he will have the next 10 years pre-planned for him....maybe 15.

Now, thats not all behind a wall. I'd say 7 to 10 total behind a wall. That gun is a bitch to deal with in the feds. If he's fortunate he'll get 2yrs for the gun on top of whatever sentence he gets for the other stuff. It could be 5yrs.
 
They are actually still running a promotion. Did u see this though.. I'll post... Scared me for the future , good thing I have a few cycles stocked ... Says it will effect All sources .. I guess except ones where the raws come from Moldova


I have really very sad news today. Maybe you heard about it. There were some rumors recently that China is very serious about banning steroids production. Not just banning, let me be clear: China is criminalizing production/trade/import/export. New laws should go into force on January,1st,2020.

As you know, virtually all raws are produced in China. In fact, there are just a few huge factories producing steroid raws and with the coming new year they stop production. This means there will be virtually no possibility buying them – the production of raws will be halted. We hoped everything is not so serious... But just today we were trying purchasing more test e raws and got refusal.

Some raws for less popular/demanded products can be still ordered till the end of the year, but there is already a real deficiency of the popular ones like test enanthate.
This will effect ALL sources, absolutely all. The current available stock will be sold and all sources you usually order from will no longer have products.

We, Pharmacom Labs did and are still doing our best to get maximum raws now to have stock for future for 6-12 months at least + we still have a lot of ready-to-use finish products available in stock.
For this reason, we will still continue our 300/200 promotion for orders paid by cryptocurrency till the of the year. Just because we promised it. We will also have 3 days of increased bonuses up to $700/$700 for 3 days within Christmas promotion on 24th - 26th of December for warehouse 2 only.



Since January 1st prices will go up by 20% at least and may and most probably will only go higher with the time while our stock will be running low. Orders placed within the promotion and not paid by January 1st will be liquidated without possibility to restore them. There will be no exclusions. We warn about it in advance. New year starts with new increased prices. So, this is really the last promotion we have.

We will still have sufficient stock for probably next 6-12 months. After this, as per

I predict most underground labs will close because of lack of access to quality raws (or some may stay open with questionable products because real raws are already virtually not available nor even produced).

We still can ship within December from our international warehouse without issues. I don`t want it to sound like I am trying to increase our sales by using the above excuse. I am just telling all "as it is." It is just what we encountered with just today. We were already now not able purchasing some raws.

So, our advice for all. If you want to have some stock at old prices, you need to place your order and pay for it before the end of the year. I am not sure, how delivery will work afterwards, but what is sure prices will go up.

Situation is really said and there is no certainty regarding coming perspectives, but they look not well right now.



Sincerely,

basicstero.ws



"I predict most underground labs will close because of lack of access to quality raws (or some may stay open with questionable products because real raws are already virtually not available nor even produced)."


Wtf does this mean? Anyone finding it hard to find "real raws"? lol. Also sounds like they're trying to distance themselves from "underground labs". News flash, you are an underground lab.
 
Everyone here is really starting to believe that an industry worth billions of dollars is going to dry up overnight because a single government changed a law? Cmon guys...
Nothing to do with drying up the price of raw just went from 4K a kg of Tren to 8k
There are some raw places not closing up but most are do to licensing
 
Capitalizing on panic. Someone who is getting cut out by the law is already figuring out how to get around it.

No shit, right?

Have any of you actually done the quick math of ROI of just a Kilo of Test E? It's fucking insane.

If I ever go off the rez again, I'm not fucking with cartels and grow houses and shit again. I'm hitting up Panda and selling straight oil.

That kind of business doesn't just disappear, especially when the risk is so low compared to other black markets.
 
They are actually still running a promotion. Did u see this though.. I'll post... Scared me for the future , good thing I have a few cycles stocked ... Says it will effect All sources .. I guess except ones where the raws come from Moldova


I have really very sad news today. Maybe you heard about it. There were some rumors recently that China is very serious about banning steroids production. Not just banning, let me be clear: China is criminalizing production/trade/import/export. New laws should go into force on January,1st,2020.

As you know, virtually all raws are produced in China. In fact, there are just a few huge factories producing steroid raws and with the coming new year they stop production. This means there will be virtually no possibility buying them – the production of raws will be halted. We hoped everything is not so serious... But just today we were trying purchasing more test e raws and got refusal.

Some raws for less popular/demanded products can be still ordered till the end of the year, but there is already a real deficiency of the popular ones like test enanthate.
This will effect ALL sources, absolutely all. The current available stock will be sold and all sources you usually order from will no longer have products.

We, Pharmacom Labs did and are still doing our best to get maximum raws now to have stock for future for 6-12 months at least + we still have a lot of ready-to-use finish products available in stock.
For this reason, we will still continue our 300/200 promotion for orders paid by cryptocurrency till the of the year. Just because we promised it. We will also have 3 days of increased bonuses up to $700/$700 for 3 days within Christmas promotion on 24th - 26th of December for warehouse 2 only.



Since January 1st prices will go up by 20% at least and may and most probably will only go higher with the time while our stock will be running low. Orders placed within the promotion and not paid by January 1st will be liquidated without possibility to restore them. There will be no exclusions. We warn about it in advance. New year starts with new increased prices. So, this is really the last promotion we have.

We will still have sufficient stock for probably next 6-12 months. After this, as per current perspective, sales will be stopped due to missing stock and lack of any possibility to get raws. We are not quite sure yet, what exactly will happen in future.

There is also no certainty how shipping will work in future. Maybe Basicstero will be able shipping small orders but not large ones.Most probably we stop selling in bulk since January to have stock for retail customers directly from our store for as long time as possible.

I predict most underground labs will close because of lack of access to quality raws (or some may stay open with questionable products because real raws are already virtually not available nor even produced).

We still can ship within December from our international warehouse without issues. I don`t want it to sound like I am trying to increase our sales by using the above excuse. I am just telling all "as it is." It is just what we encountered with just today. We were already now not able purchasing some raws.

So, our advice for all. If you want to have some stock at old prices, you need to place your order and pay for it before the end of the year. I am not sure, how delivery will work afterwards, but what is sure prices will go up.

Situation is really said and there is no certainty regarding coming perspectives, but they look not well right now.



Sincerely,

basicstero.ws

I am in contact with the staff of my favorite ugl and they told me that there will be no problems and prices will remain stable. and regarding pharma grade factory like balkan, my Moldovan wholesalers who work inside balkan in a commercial office told me the same thing.

so if someone can continue to produce normally, without increasing prices, it means that everyone can do it.

then I think that for the whole of 2020, the big brands will have stocks of raw materials purchased in 2019. Whoever announces that they have already increased prices since the first months of 2020, in my opinion is getting sly.

this business is immense and I think even bigger than the cocaine and heroin put together. Steroids are now using them all.
it won't be a fucking law to stop this business.
 
I am in contact with the staff of my favorite ugl and they told me that there will be no problems and prices will remain stable. and regarding pharma grade factory like balkan, my Moldovan wholesalers who work inside balkan in a commercial office told me the same thing.

so if someone can continue to produce normally, without increasing prices, it means that everyone can do it.

then I think that for the whole of 2020, the big brands will have stocks of raw materials purchased in 2019. Whoever announces that they have already increased prices since the first months of 2020, in my opinion is getting sly.

this business is immense and I think even bigger than the cocaine and heroin put together. Steroids are now using them all.
it won't be a fucking law to stop this business.
Well, all signs point to the situation is real. Even the ugl you quoted (pharmacon) is saying that the raws are getting harder to get. So, if china dries up a bit and prices do go up considerably then other countries are gonna have a problem with stock. It's not just one raw provider acknowledging the problem. It's all of them. So, if (when) the shit hits the fan it's going to get dry everywhere. Reading around everyone is running out of test e. That's just the beginning. The only question appears to be (imo) is which source is going to jump first. Prices are going up. I think sources are just waiting to see who will be the first.
 
I am in contact with the staff of my favorite ugl and they told me that there will be no problems and prices will remain stable. and regarding pharma grade factory like balkan, my Moldovan wholesalers who work inside balkan in a commercial office told me the same thing.

so if someone can continue to produce normally, without increasing prices, it means that everyone can do it.

then I think that for the whole of 2020, the big brands will have stocks of raw materials purchased in 2019. Whoever announces that they have already increased prices since the first months of 2020, in my opinion is getting sly.

this business is immense and I think even bigger than the cocaine and heroin put together. Steroids are now using them all.
it won't be a fucking law to stop this business.
Our board here probably isn't the best place to make this subject a matter of contention, but if your saying that aas sales have surpassed the sum total of cocaine and heroin sales world wide you would be wrong. No disrespect meant but you're buying into some hype that just isn't there.
If I was to venture a guess I'd have to say that aas sales would be closer to more like 5% or so of the total in USD that heroin and cocaine generate. If that. Probably less than that. I'm probably being reserved. It's probably less than 1% of what coke and skag generate world wide. Yes...that's more accurate.
It may not feel that way if your hanging around your gym all day. But, seriously....
 
Well, all signs point to the situation is real. Even the ugl you quoted (pharmacon) is saying that the raws are getting harder to get. So, if china dries up a bit and prices do go up considerably then other countries are gonna have a problem with stock. It's not just one raw provider acknowledging the problem. It's all of them. So, if (when) the shit hits the fan it's going to get dry everywhere. Reading around everyone is running out of test e. That's just the beginning. The only question appears to be (imo) is which source is going to jump first. Prices are going up. I think sources are just waiting to see who will be the first.
Right even if they have stock you have to raise price because the re up for the next batch is double ..... so if there price don’t go up I’d think they are under dosing gear ... or there exiting
 
I am in contact with the staff of my favorite ugl and they told me that there will be no problems and prices will remain stable. and regarding pharma grade factory like balkan, my Moldovan wholesalers who work inside balkan in a commercial office told me the same thing.

so if someone can continue to produce normally, without increasing prices, it means that everyone can do it.

then I think that for the whole of 2020, the big brands will have stocks of raw materials purchased in 2019. Whoever announces that they have already increased prices since the first months of 2020, in my opinion is getting sly.

this business is immense and I think even bigger than the cocaine and heroin put together. Steroids are now using them all.
it won't be a fucking law to stop this business.

Don't know where you got your data & statistical number from bruh but last checked a kingpin that deals with cocaine was in the billionaire club. I have yet, to see anyone w/aas made the front page or FBI most wanted. just sayin!
 
Our board here probably isn't the best place to make this subject a matter of contention, but if your saying that aas sales have surpassed the sum total of cocaine and heroin sales world wide you would be wrong. No disrespect meant but you're buying into some hype that just isn't there.
If I was to venture a guess I'd have to say that aas sales would be closer to more like 5% or so of the total in USD that heroin and cocaine generate. If that. Probably less than that. I'm probably being reserved. It's probably less than 1% of what coke and skag generate world wide. Yes...that's more accurate.
It may not feel that way if your hanging around your gym all day. But, seriously....

Are you kidding me. What about all of the people getting pulled over with AAS in their cars on Cops and LivePD??

Probably more like .001% of coke and heroin sales. After a statement such as that I won't ever be able to take anything that guy says seriously again.
 
Don't know where you got your data & statistical number from bruh but last checked a kingpin that deals with cocaine was in the billionaire club. I have yet, to see anyone w/aas made the front page or FBI most wanted. just sayin!
To be fair, the now deceased founder of Asia Pharma, Mihael Karner, was designated as a “kingpin” under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act.
Still doesn't change my belief.
President Obama: Don't Buy Steroids from Asia Pharma - MESO-Rx
 
We aren't calling Titanium a kingpin now are we? Kingpins dont usually get popped the way he did. They also generally dont use discord and they are usually no where near their own product!
Just sayin....
 
He died? When? How?
Can't remember where I read it? I'll have to look...Maybe I have the drug dealers confused?
I was sure the AP head was holed up in a gated Community with enhanced security in South Africa? He was shot in his bed while he slept next to his wife who was unharmed.
 
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