XmadXscientist
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No Ba or no BB?
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No Ba or no BB?
I think he was just saying GU can double as an antiseptic basically replacing BA, but BB will still be needed.
Have you heard of that before?
BB of course, BA not , 10% of GUA is sufficiently antiseptic
TideGear
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What @Eman said is accurate. I don't personally use the microwave though. What I did was just put one of those vials on the stove top (I have a glass top stove), get it hot and shake it until the crystals are gone. Let it sit overnight like he said and see what happens. With the amount of guaiacol you used, it should have held. I'm thinking maybe you didn't heat it enough. Let us know how it goes.
XmadXscientist
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They’re testing a compound that includes guaiacol in it as an anti microbial agent but I found little information regarding guaiacol by itself.
Guaiacol is highly toxic and makes for a poor substitute even if it had the same strength to prevent bacterial growth that BA does.
Do you have literature on this?
1% ba never hurt nobody
Thanks for the advice guys. I have no problem getting it back into solution by heating a vial I'm just concerned about the remaining 200ml I have that is also crashed lol. And yes, it was 100mg/ml. I suppose a smaller scale test brew would've been a good idea but I was confident in that recipe. I'll try adding 1% more bb as a "first last resort" haha, I don't particularly want to add more Guaiacol either. I'll play around with it and see where that gets me. Thanks again fellas
To clarify, I didn't mean to heat it up just for it to hold for a few hours. Heat up your oil and bottle it, it SHOULD stay in solution.
XmadXscientist
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So I lied, it’s only 2% guaiacol
Its not a substitute. But like you see, some recipes contains 10-15% GU. And this % is enough to hold oil antibacterial. Why to add another antibacterial compound ?
If you have compound with 10% GU, 1-2% BA and around 20-30% BB like have this TB,TRB recipes....its not a bacteria friendly medium.
XmadXscientist
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I could only find information about the compound they’re developing with guaiacol in it but nothing really in guaiacol by itself, do you have any info on that?
About guaiacol like antiseptic compound ?
XmadXscientist
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Yes sir
XmadXscientist
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Ok so found the recipe I used to make the test 100. Oil/BB mix needs to be prewarmed, raws are melted by themselves then oil is slowly added over the course of 45-60 minutes, add BA and guaiacol as the mix cools below 250 and leave mixing for another hour.
If you check uses and effects of GUA , you will find it - expectorans, local anesthetic and antiseptic. Guaiacol is naturaly in smoke ( he gives to meat a ,,smoked,, taste ) and - anticeptic effect.
Firstly was found in plant Guaiacum officinale
But its not only one GUA - duotal, guajako-fosfal, geosot, benzosol, guaiamar...
Its important to have all substances hot ( very hot ) , because if you add cold oil into hot BB+TNE ( also TAC ) - crashing very easy. Will arise flakes - insoluble
Do you think this recipe would work for TrNE if the GU would be brought up to 5% and everything else remain the same?
XmadXscientist
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Yep x2
You could try it but I’m not sure, Tren Base is far more challenging to work with.
Anyone make tne without eo or guac?
I've had sources assure me theirs is guac free, but I couldn't say for sure.
I've had sources assure me theirs is guac free, but I couldn't say for sure.
