Torture - Extreme Pain

[Sworder]

I was reading a paper on torture and it described various coping mechanisms. Figured there would be a lot of military guys here.

Anybody here that has been exposed to torture, extreme pain or severe stress?

I would appreciate any tips from training, actual experiences and describing how to cope mentally and physically.

 

[Sworder]

I have had a few bouts in the hospital and when dealing with extreme pain it really helps to focus on something. I curl up into a ball and then shake my foot at a steady pace. Usually some rocking with the body as well, it's called self stimulation or "stimming." When the pain is really bad it helps to do something with your mouth as well such as bite your lips or cheek as well as hum. The humming vibrates the throat and soothes the sense of hearing as well as it vibrates throughout your skull. The more intense the pain or stress the larger the volume and intensity of the stimming behaviors. That's what I do for pain.

In regards to extreme mental stress there was a 3 week period where I was in an induced coma and I have dreams from the medications. Very vivid nightmares. I was being tied down with a tube down my throat and somebody was putting a bag around my head so I couldn't breathe. I died 3 times that way. My family was killed in front of me. I kept on being forced to receive drugs that knocked me out, I had to sit and piss myself in another dream.

All these dreams were extremely vivid because they were a sort of distorded reality for my brain. Some of the figures in my dreams were nurses but in my dreams they were other characters completely but had the same appearance and name. All these dreams were extremely real and when I finally came to I was so confused about reality. It took me about a week or two to understand that I was in the hospital and that the dreams weren't real. They were my brain's coping mechanism.

How cool is that?! The brain has self defense mechanism to protect itself from stress. I am so fascinated with the brain and how we deal with pain and stress. I was going to add, I don't meditate but I plan on doing it. I have heard that inner peace and imagery helps create a better way to cope with pain or stress. There is a lot to learn from other people, there are established ways to do things the most efficient way.

Anybody here wanting to share? I am sure everybody has different coping mechanisms. Aren't you guys here to share, learn and grow?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

i saw the title and figured you were just going to post Taylor Swift videos.

 

[Sworder]

i saw the title and figured you were just going to post Taylor Swift videos.

I actually like some of her songs! She writes her own lyrics and if you listen to it there is some meaning there. It is teenage white girl problems but those are as real to her as our problems are to us. It's all just sheep in different colors. Rock music is another way to deal with pain, the lyrics reflect something dark because it is dealing with something dark. It's all the same thing, just depends on who you identify yourself as. That's why Taylor Swift is so popular, all the little white girls relate exactly to her problems.
It's a near perfect business model. Boyfriend issues what's that guaranteed 400 million views on YouTube? Then add role model imagery to white and female and that's 1 or 2 billion views, so yeah. It makes perfect sense why Taylor Swift is popular. Damn, I guess that means...?


Here is what 2.5 BILLION views looks like, singing about a boyfriend:


How about this one, message is "shake it off" usurps 2.8 BILLION views, can you even visualize one billion?

 

[Sworder]

Same thing why comic books are so popular, so many "nerds" projecting themselves as heroes is a great business model.

 

[johntt44]

Same thing why comic books are so popular, so many "nerds" projecting themselves as heroes is a great business model.

I've never read a comic book. Even once. I'm a boring person with no imagination I guess.

 

[johntt44]

I loved Jack London books as a kid. Call of the Wild, White Fang, etc. I liked Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, also. Adventure more than fantasy.

 

[Sworder]

I've never read a comic book. Even once. I'm a boring person with no imagination I guess.

There are tons of different outlets. You probably picked something else.

Anime is pretty much the same thing, superpowers. I am into anime that's my go to. I identify with the guys powering up because I have so much rage inside and that's my coping mechanism. Plus I have a strong interest in Asian culture so that makes anime even more "attractive."

 

[Sworder]

I loved Jack London books as a kid. Call of the Wild, White Fang, etc. I liked Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, also. Adventure more than fantasy.

Sounds like you were pretty peaceful with those books!

 

[notdeadYET]

Anybody here that has been exposed to torture, extreme pain or severe stress?

I’ve been married a couple times, what would you like to know?

PS. I think you’d like this book.

The Long Walk: True Story of a Trek to Freedom

 

[Sworder]

I’ve been married a couple times, what would you like to know?

PS. I think you’d like this book.

The Long Walk: True Story of a Trek to Freedom

In regards to the marriage, I understand the joke but am being serious about wanting people to share their experiences with coping mechanisms. If you have any regarding what you would do to control your anger or avoid escalating arguments or disarming techniques. I am all ears.

I think I would like that book as well, I have read Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland by Christopher R. Browning. I will see if I can find it online, thank you.

 

[WeMadeItToAndromeda]

There are tons of different outlets. You probably picked something else.

Anime is pretty much the same thing, superpowers. I am into anime that's my go to. I identify with the guys powering up because I have so much rage inside and that's my coping mechanism. Plus I have a strong interest in Asian culture so that makes anime even more "attractive."

Hey man, I'm a pretty big fan of anime myself!

 

[Sworder]

Hey man, I'm a pretty big fan of anime myself!

What kind of stuff?
Hunter x hunter, death note, shigurui, darker than black, attack on titan etc?

 

[johntt44]

I've had a few surgeries (9). I tend to look past all the limping, gimping, pain to when I'll be whole again. Bad days, the same thing. "Just think John, by 7pm you'll be sitting on the couch drinking a beer. You got this." Looking past things has always worked for me.

 

[notdeadYET]

I understand the joke but am being serious about wanting people to share their experiences with coping mechanisms.

I’ve been in pain before, broken bones, crutches for 6 months. I live with Rheumatoid Arthritis. I’ve run ultramarathons, ‘running’ or moving forward for 24 hours (serious self-inflicted pain).

Side track but these types of races are like an awakening or birth. There are bouts of excitement, enjoyment, pain, despair, misery, doubt, highest of highs and lowest of lows, running thru the night for no reason other than to not quit, not give up. Then something happens, the sun comes up and you get a rush. Pain is still there but it’s replaced with grit and you finish, then afterwards you feel like shit again, get the flu, promise you’ll never run again, start lifting, order some steroids and join Meso.

Anyway, back to the topic. I don’t think I’ve ever been in the type of situation you’ve described. I consider myself blessed. However the human brain is capable of so much. Mental toughness is important. For some in extreme torture, I imagine it’s more like second by second, minute by minute, rather than day-by-day. Fuck - makes me glad to have been blessed, and sorry for those in pain.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

I heard this is about as painful as it gets. To become a warrior in the tribe they have to do this 20 times and they keep the gloves on for like 10min. The pain last way longer then what is shown here. This guy was totally not ready.

 

[jaymaximus]

I was in in the Army, we did POW training, but SERE training is where they would deal with escape and torture. The Rangers do more psychological training than physical as far as that.

But actually training people by torturing them, if that happens it's not "on the books"

 

[Sworder]

I heard this is about as painful as it gets. To become a warrior in the tribe they have to do this 20 times and they keep the gloves on for like 10min. The pain last way longer then what is shown here. This guy was totally not ready.

In regards to Insect bites yes the bullet ant is the king of pain. The half life of the venom is around 24 hours I think too. The Number two tarantula hawk's venom stays for around 10 minutes. So yeah, you are not going to be a be a happy camper if you get stung by one of those. Honestly though some strong pain meds should at least knock the person out. Until the pain is gone.

 

[Sworder]

I live with Rheumatoid Arthritis.

How has hormones helped you? I want to get my mom on some nandrolone, she has a lot of chronic pain and arthritis. A lot of the female auto immune disabilities involving nerves can be ameliorated with some hormones.

Anyway, back to the topic. I don’t think I’ve ever been in the type of situation you’ve described. I consider myself blessed.

We all play the cards we are dealt. If you have a good or bad hand it depends on who you compare things to. You have really no option but to go with the flow, it's either that or the shotty. People tell you that you are strong etc, but not really. No choice!

 

[Sworder]

I've had a few surgeries (9). I tend to look past all the limping, gimping, pain to when I'll be whole again. Bad days, the same thing. "Just think John, by 7pm you'll be sitting on the couch drinking a beer. You got this." Looking past things has always worked for me.

Surgeries are always bad, any and everything about them. 9 of them? Sounds like a construction project, what did you get done if you don't mind sharing?