TP HGH

[janoshik]

Damn I kind of regret even asking the question I asked - had I knew it would have started negative dialogue

To perhaps pull the conversation kind of back on topic - Can you explain what’s changed in the testing method and if you have tested any pharma HGH as of yet with this different method of testing?

The impurities that were previously not well defined away from the main HGH peak are now easily detected. That's it. Took a lot of work for that to happen, though, I based it off Karlsson's work.

I can't tell about pharma GH - no way of telling if it's high quality fake or genuine pharma, really. I've tested fake GH pharma that tested almost as well as GH reference standard (which is more pure than pharma GH).

 

[SkankHunt]

I've read his history with @mands but tbh Jano performs waaay too many blind tests to not be caught for "junk" or fake reports. He could easily be blind tested vs Lab4Tox at any time. I fail to see how he could be pulling this off running what a couple hundred or lets say 100 tests per month?

He would be found out much faster than this but I'd love to see your story/proof on this. There's people like @SkankHunt that send in tons of samples that could ass blast @janoshik at any time by sending off samples to Lab4Tox and him at the same time without ever telling him.

I'm curious what you think about them is junk? Accuracy? Totally faked? Price?

I've never used either but I've seen him explain on here and I think even post the cold shipped reference legit HGH for calibration and stuff that leads me to believe he does what he says he does.

So Janoshik ratted out Analyzer who was already being a dumbass and running tests at his university for money? Is there any back story on this?

I'm all for a good bashing but you post tons of shit without coming with receipts and it's not a good look.

Once I sent Jano the Pharma mix 4 from Pharmacom I’m like Ight this dude ain’t playing around lol. I’ve sent him I think around 20 blind samples and he’s identified them all. Kinda hard to be a scammer.

 

[muscletrain]

Once I sent Jano the Pharma mix 4 from Pharmacom I’m like Ight this dude ain’t playing around lol. I’ve sent him I think around 20 blind samples and he’s identified them all. Kinda hard to be a scammer.

Pretty much how I see it.

 

[Bulldog413]

Pretty much how I see it.

Yes I’ve read the Mands issue as well. Everyone fucks ups at some point or another. I’ve fucked up in my business. We all have. I get Mands post, I really do and I can sympathize for his reasoning. Now having said that, I’ve looked into @janoshik ‘s work and I would trust him with my samples 100%. I actually like the guy.

 

[Lifting88]

I send @janoshik a blind sample a few weeks ago

Its was npp but at 250mg/ml, almost no source has npp at 250mg so its impossible that jano just guess the dosing and i get the labtest back as npp 241mg

This guy is real..

 

[stick]

Why are people still harping on about Jano?!? He fucked up, people speculated that he was a fraud, he then proved himself and the case is closed.

This guy is either a fucking wizard or he tests samples professionally. You tell me which one is more believable.

 

[muscletrain]

Why are people still harping on about Jano?!? He fucked up, people speculated that he was a fraud, he then proved himself and the case is closed.

This guy is either a fucking wizard or he tests samples professionally. You tell me which one is more believable.

I mean it would be kind of cool if wizards were real?

 

[lynks8]

This whole "new testing method" is just a marketing gimick that you are all falling for

Ooooo let's retest everything using Janos new method, oooo has it been tested using janos new method??? It's just a ploy to drive more money into his own pocket

Facts are tps hgh has been the standard for almost a decade. Everyone gets it, it works, it's legit, it scored high 90 across the board, so who cares what the "new method" puts the number at. Same for any other long standing providers. Tests need to be compared on a like for like basis, Jano uses a different method now so apparently everyone needs to retest to see what number he puts on it now lol why

It's like a phone network.provider saying we have 99% signal quality, you have been using it for years and are very happy with it. Then someone gets a new test using a different method and it scores lower, why would you care? You have been using the product along with everyone else for years and are more than happy with the results

If anything screams marketing gimick it's his tagline of being stricter than pharma lol how stupid is that. Pharma is the standard, what is the point of being stricter, it holds no actual benefit except to make people think it's some unheard of advanced process he's got going on and they must test using jano now

It's all a ploy to simply get more customers

This is a terrible argument for a number of reasons, some of which have already been identified, so I'll just focus on two more.

1. TP's gh has been (mostly) well-tested and reviewed for a long time. Great! Does that earn him a free pass now to not test? Over the years, how many other labs and sources have been great for a long time and then suddenly shit the bed? Too many to count. Every batch needs to be tested. No-one gets a pass. Not when it's shit we're injecting into our bodies. A source is only as good as their last batch.

2. The phone network analogy is particularly stupid. You can very easily and objectively test how well your phone service is working for free at any time. Determining the purity and iu count of a batch of gh is impossible without complex HPLC testing. These are not comparable. At all.

Source cheerleaders/apologists make me fuckin nauseous.

 

[VaDImadi]

This is a terrible argument for a number of reasons, some of which have already been identified, so I'll just focus on two more.

1. TP's gh has been (mostly) well-tested and reviewed for a long time. Great! Does that earn him a free pass now to not test? Over the years, how many other labs and sources have been great for a long time and then suddenly shit the bed? Too many to count. Every batch needs to be tested. No-one gets a pass. Not when it's shit we're injecting into our bodies. A source is only as good as their last batch.

2. The phone network analogy is particularly stupid. You can very easily and objectively test how well your phone service is working for free at any time. Determining the purity and iu count of a batch of gh is impossible without complex HPLC testing. These are not comparable. At all.

Source cheerleaders/apologists make me fuckin nauseous.

1.As someone who has had hgh produced for over a decade, with little to no complaints, I'm pretty confident he is up to the job.

2. Your understanding of the analogy is particularly stupid. The point of it is to show that if something has been working great for years, and is still working great then who cares if a new method of testing puts the results a little lower. It had nothing to do with how easy or difficult it is to test your actual phone signal

3. I'm not a source apologist, I agree TP should publish batch testing. But even if he doesn't im confident in the fact that if I buy from him, I will get real hgh that is one of the highest quality generics available. As are most people, hence why everyone continues to buy from him.

 

[lynks8]

1.As someone who has had hgh produced for over a decade, with little to no complaints, I'm pretty confident he is up to the job.

2. Your understanding of the analogy is particularly stupid. The point of it is to show that if something has been working great for years, and is still working great then who cares if a new method of testing puts the results a little lower. It had nothing to do with how easy or difficult it is to test your actual phone signal

3. I'm not a source apologist, I agree TP should publish batch testing. But even if he doesn't im confident in the fact that if I buy from him, I will get real hgh that is one of the highest quality generics available. As are most people, hence why everyone continues to buy from him.

Lmao, wow, you completely missed the point, and continue on with your fallacious reasoning: "if it's been good for x amount of time, it must still be good, even without checking". My understanding of your poor analogy is perfectly accurate, or else you could actually rebut my criticism instead of simply repeating your faulty logic.

To be fair, i agree, a strong track record is AN indicator of potential future quality. However, it is not enough, not when it comes to foreign substances i'm injecting into my body....substances sold by sources in an industry where they shit the bed without warning all the time. Too much risk for me to save a couple bucks. Not a good value proposition.

If you're comfortable going on blind faith, by all means, you do you. That's not good enough for me.

Bottom line: you're continuing to cheerlead for a source that has decided to stop testing. That is simply unacceptable in my book, and should not be acceptable by Meso standards.

Oh and lol @ your "most people" argument. Most people are fat cows with double-digit IQs and have shit taste. Who gives a fuck what "most people" do? Pfffft.

 

[VaDImadi]

Lmao, wow, you completely missed the point, and continue on with your fallacious reasoning: "if it's been good for x amount of time, it must still be good, even without checking". My understanding of your poor analogy is perfectly accurate, or else you could actually rebut my criticism instead of simply repeating your faulty logic.

To be fair, i agree, a strong track record is AN indicator of potential future quality. However, it is not enough, not when it comes to foreign substances i'm injecting into my body....substances sold by sources in an industry where they shit the bed without warning all the time. Too much risk for me to save a couple bucks. Not a good value proposition.

If you're comfortable going on blind faith, by all means, you do you. That's not good enough for me.

Bottom line: you're continuing to cheerlead for a source that has decided to stop testing. That is simply unacceptable in my book, and should not be acceptable by Meso standards.

Oh and lol @ your "most people" argument. Most people are fat cows with double-digit IQs and have shit taste. Who gives a fuck what "most people" do? Pfffft.

Why do you think I'm cheerleading TP? I'm really not, I'm just someone who buys HGH, I'll buy from whoever has the best product. But, as I said, he's been doing this for ten years plus with little to no complaints of his product, his people aren't all of a sudden going to forget the process. Also the fact that the blacks are working exactly the same as they always have

For generics, he is your safest bet I'd say, visible testing or no visible testing.

He does test every batch too, they compare every batch to serostim, he said so himself on PM. I just think he's stopped bothering posting Janos test results as he is putting everyone's scores a lot lower now even though none of them have changed anything up

 

[Athlete127]

tp is still around? I will never forget using the black tops with the M on the top. Worst side effects Ive ever had in my life... IDC what anyone says theres other junk in those lol. Ive used 12 pharm with no sides

 

[VaDImadi]

tp is still around? I will never forget using the black tops with the M on the top. Worst side effects Ive ever had in my life... IDC what anyone says theres other junk in those lol. Ive used 12 pharm with no sides

I personally have had zero side effects running batch 90 of meditropes, I have batch 91 also but am yet to start. I split a vial into three shots

Perhaps others can chime in with their experiences

 

[hghlover]

I personally have had zero side effects running batch 90 of meditropes, I have batch 91 also but am yet to start. I split a vial into three shots

Perhaps others can chime in with their experiences

Other than some lethargy the meditrope has always served me well

Some water retention at higher doses but nothing crazy

And you can't beat the price

This is just a guess but i think they might also have refined the process, the newer meditropes seem to dissolve faster than older ones

Worst ones i tried was tps orange tops, yuck.. so much water bloat, blood pressure going up etc.. they felt really dirty, and i had four kits of em, fuck

 

[Sampei]

Why do you think I'm cheerleading TP? I'm really not, I'm just someone who buys HGH, I'll buy from whoever has the best product. But, as I said, he's been doing this for ten years plus with little to no complaints of his product, his people aren't all of a sudden going to forget the process. Also the fact that the blacks are working exactly the same as they always have

For generics, he is your safest bet I'd say, visible testing or no visible testing.

He does test every batch too, they compare every batch to serostim, he said so himself on PM. I just think he's stopped bothering posting Janos test results as he is putting everyone's scores a lot lower now even though none of them have changed anything up

You are a fucking joke, go back sucking dick on the meditropeEU thread please.

Your logic makes no sense, not that it surprises me, from a retard like you we can't expect anything better

 

[hghlover]

Christ this forum is toxic

 

[Athlete127]

Other than some lethargy the meditrope has always served me well

Some water retention at higher doses but nothing crazy

And you can't beat the price

This is just a guess but i think they might also have refined the process, the newer meditropes seem to dissolve faster than older ones

Worst ones i tried was tps orange tops, yuck.. so much water bloat, blood pressure going up etc.. they felt really dirty, and i had four kits of em, fuck

Did he say it was impurities or something ??

 

[VaDImadi]

You are a fucking joke, go back sucking dick on the meditropeEU thread please.

Your logic makes no sense, not that it surprises me, from a retard like you we can't expect anything better

Oh here he is

This is the guy giving out boatloads of abuse and vitriol to meditropeEu, demanding meditropeEu test TPs product, shouting about it for months saying how vital testing is, that no one should buy without testing, and then a few weeks later he posts in the EU source discussion that he's just had a touchdown of meditropes from TP........ So after all your demands for testing and saying how vital they are and no one should buy without it, you go and buy the product with zero testing. Such irony

Mr no balls, guarantee you didn't give TP a single bit of shit about not having testing, infact you did the opposite, licked his arse and then sent him your cash. Why didn't you keep the same energy you had with meditropeEU and give TP loads of abuse demanding testing? Especially considering they are TPs product?

Cowardly and hypocritical

 

[Crystal Clear]

Oh here he is

This is the guy giving out boatloads of abuse and vitriol to meditropeEu, demanding meditropeEu test TPs product, shouting about it for months saying how vital testing is, that no one should buy without testing, and then a few weeks later he posts in the EU source discussion that he's just had a touchdown of meditropes from TP........ So after all your demands for testing and saying how vital they are and no one should buy without it, you go and buy the product with zero testing. Such irony

Mr no balls, guarantee you didn't give TP a single bit of shit about not having testing, infact you did the opposite, licked his arse and then sent him your cash. Why didn't you keep the same energy you had with meditropeEU and give TP loads of abuse demanding testing? Especially considering they are TPs product?

Cowardly and hypocritical

I also followed his replies in their thread and its fucking hilarious. Him demanding meditropeEU to behave while he is insulting them like a retard lol

Edit: + he bought underdosed hilma and later contaminated human labs. This guy seem to have some personal agenda. You see him raging on these other sources? Hilarious to watch

 

[MadBret]

He was using his universities lab without permission

And that is Jano's fault when he got popped?

How?

Making an accusation that he snitched on him is pretty serious as well.

I don't imagine that you actually possess any proof of this, though.

That's clown shit, bro. Stick to the facts. And basically saying TP doesn't have to test because he's so great....more clown shit.

Please shut the fuck up, clown.

It's better for people to think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it to them.

Fucking clown.