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Tren Hexa Vs. Ace/Enan and neurodegernative diseases

TRT@40

TRT@40

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I am intrigued by the results reportedly achieved with tren even when considering the short term sides like the ones talked about in various threads like the following:
https://thinksteroids.com/community...aranoia-on-tren.134394787/page-2#post-2282859

First, is there any truth to tren hexa being better for human consumption than ace in terms of sides?
Given that it has longer half life, it would be released slowly into your system than ace therefore the sides will not be as intense. I understand the main benefit of tren ace is that if sides are too severe you can reduce or stop it completely and manage your sides very quickly given its short half life. But if you are not considering this benefit of tren ace, would you choose tren hexa if you want to lower the taxing on your system?

Secondly, I came across the connection between tren and neurodegeneration as a long term side effect. That scared me off given that I have seen old folks with neurodegenerative diseases. I know all AAS with excessive dosing and long term usage can cause these issues.

Check out the following paper:
17β-trenbolone, an anabolic-androgenic steroid as well as an environmental hormone, contributes to neurodegeneration. - PubMed - NCBI

Youtube video by Jerry Brainum:










by Jerry Brainum



Those of you who have used tren long term and are knowledgeable about tren pharmacology, would you comment if these issues are real?
I am really interested in learning more about tren to make an informed decision.

I posted the 2nd half of this message in the above mentioned thread and I did not get any responses. I am wondering if nobody really wants to talk about these serious ND sides or they are result of long term usage and mega dosages or ...?

Thanks for any education you fellas can provide to me and others who will read it!
 
If release time has anything to do with sides then enanthste would be superior to hex. There’s not one better than the other health/sides wise, they’re both tren at the end of the day.
 
Couple things to consider:
1. IMO the only real change between esters is the ability to control blood levels and to get it out of your system if sides suck. There’s some speculative evidence that long and short esters have slightly varried effects, but not significant
2. What are “large amounts”
3. What is a “very long time”
4. Dose cycling the drug reduce the impact as its or is this cumulative ?

Hex won’t be any better for you, it’s just a different ester.
 
Parabolin from Negma is my favorite juice ever.

the problem with the side effects, no matter what you ester you use is how long you consume it. Tren back in the day, people would run no longer than 8 weeks. Nowadays, I know people who don't come off it.
 
I know that for me, side effects of tren become more pronounced the longer I use it. Once I pass the 8 week mark I'm just trying to hold it in the road, which becomes not worth it at that point. Not to mention, your transformation really slows down at that point.

My opinion: get your 4-6 weeks of good results and GTFO the shit b4 shit gets too real.
 
TRT@40 said:
I am intrigued by the results reportedly achieved with tren even when considering the short term sides like the ones talked about in various threads like the following:
https://thinksteroids.com/community...aranoia-on-tren.134394787/page-2#post-2282859

First, is there any truth to tren hexa being better for human consumption than ace in terms of sides?
Given that it has longer half life, it would be released slowly into your system than ace therefore the sides will not be as intense. I understand the main benefit of tren ace is that if sides are too severe you can reduce or stop it completely and manage your sides very quickly given its short half life. But if you are not considering this benefit of tren ace, would you choose tren hexa if you want to lower the taxing on your system?

Secondly, I came across the connection between tren and neurodegeneration as a long term side effect. That scared me off given that I have seen old folks with neurodegenerative diseases. I know all AAS with excessive dosing and long term usage can cause these issues.

Check out the following paper:
17β-trenbolone, an anabolic-androgenic steroid as well as an environmental hormone, contributes to neurodegeneration. - PubMed - NCBI

Youtube video by Jerry Brainum:










by Jerry Brainum



Those of you who have used tren long term and are knowledgeable about tren pharmacology, would you comment if these issues are real?
I am really interested in learning more about tren to make an informed decision.

I posted the 2nd half of this message in the above mentioned thread and I did not get any responses. I am wondering if nobody really wants to talk about these serious ND sides or they are result of long term usage and mega dosages or ...?

Thanks for any education you fellas can provide to me and others who will read it!
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IDK why many believe ester modification changes the risk imposed by ANY parent anabolic compound.

If the cumulative dose is the same so too is the risk!

Finally the effects of AAS on rat
brains require further study to establish weather a similar cause and effect relationship exists in humans esp when HUMAN genetics plays a major role in the disease under study.

Jim
 
Dr JIM said:
IDK why many believe ester modification changes the risk imposed by ANY parent anabolic compound.

If the cumulative dose is the same so too is the risk!

Finally the effects of AAS on rat
brains require further study to establish weather a similar cause and effect relationship exists in humans esp when HUMAN genetics plays a major role in the disease under study.

Jim
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You beat me to it, but glad you did as you have much more credibility than I. I just dont believe the ester has much to do with anything except for half life.
 
Nandralonalonealonealone.

I firmly believe they make you more of what you are and exacerbate issues that already existed. Just my .02. I’ve always been fairly well adjusted without mental issue like depression or anxiety. If that changes, I’ll change my outlook

The way i think of it is in terms of the bell curve and sigmas from average. Starting left or right of center doesn’t bode well for neuro-active drugs; recreational hard drugs, alcohol, and gear included.
 
Holidaypay said:
I could be wrong but isn't tren hex the only one that was made for human consumption
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Say what ?

According to what source, as in UGL or forum.

Tren Hex has been popularized by UGL many are pushing this AAS as the new kid on the block.

In fact the headlines of some UGL
read “we now carry Tren Hex”.

The parent compound is still TRENBOLONE
 
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Dr JIM said:
Say what ?

According to what source, as in UGL or forum.

Tren Hex has been popularized by UGL many are pushing this AAS as the new kid on the block.

In fact the headlines of some UGL
read “we now carry Tren Hex”.

The parent compound is still TRENBOLONE
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It was made in France for medical use in humans in 1980 an was discontinued in 1997 Google it
 
Dr JIM said:
Say what ?

According to what source, as in UGL or forum.

Tren Hex has been popularized by UGL many are pushing this AAS as the new kid on the block.

In fact the headlines of some UGL
read “we now carry Tren Hex”.

The parent compound is still TRENBOLONE
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Jim I respect the time you have Ben on here but lately I feel like you have Ben calling me an other people out without making sure what we say is wrong or right or without reading everything we say an taking something out of context then when we prove our point u just stop responding I understand there is a lot of bro science going around but check your facts before commenting no hard feelings just feel like u have Ben comming at me a lot since I joined
 
Holidaypay said:
Jim I respect the time you have Ben on here but lately I feel like you have Ben calling me an other people out without making sure what we say is wrong or right or without reading everything we say an taking something out of context then when we prove our point u just stop responding I understand there is a lot of bro science going around but check your facts before commenting no hard feelings just feel like u have Ben comming at me a lot since I joined
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Who’s Jim? He block me? Must’ve.
 
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