MESO-Rx Exclusive Trenbolone facts - series on unique characteristics of different steroids

[malfeasance]

Sorry, I did not read all six pages to see if this was already here, but here is a study on trenbolone in rats, to explore whether tren might be used as an effective and safe weight loss agent

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0039128X14003109#:~:text=Trenbolone%20(17%CE%B2%2Dhydroxyestra%2D4,androgenic%20potency%20compared%20to%20TEST.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Sorry, I did not read all six pages to see if this was already here, but here is a study on trenbolone in rats, to explore whether tren might be used as an effective and safe weight loss agent

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0039128X14003109#:~:text=Trenbolone%20(17%CE%B2%2Dhydroxyestra%2D4,androgenic%20potency%20compared%20to%20TEST.

They never said what form of trenbolone they used but they did say they gave 2mg/kg a day. For a 200 lb male that's 1,260mg per week! Also seemed odd that they kept referring to trenbolone as a SARM or designer steroid.

 

[rexy]

They never said what form of trenbolone they used but they did say they gave 2mg/kg a day. For a 200 lb male that's 1,260mg per week! Also seemed odd that they kept referring to trenbolone as a SARM or designer steroid.

From what i understand, at the doses it was intended for clinically in humans (50mg base over a week or two), it is actually selective and acknowledged/acts as a SARM. Going above that, it spills all over the show and that's where your CNS stimulation and other pathways get spillover. Could be wrong but it's definitely not the first time I've come across it referred to as such when it's dosed very low.

 

[xrayphoton13]

From what i understand, at the doses it was intended for clinically in humans (50mg base over a week or two), it is actually selective and acknowledged/acts as a SARM. Going above that, it spills all over the show and that's where your CNS stimulation and other pathways get spillover. Could be wrong but it's definitely not the first time I've come across it referred to as such.

Interesting

 

[xrayphoton13]

If you can tolerate EQ as well, its a fantastic compound for bulking. Some people just get bad sides with EQ

How much eq per week do you like for a bulk? I was thinking 600mg would be a good place to start but then I see posts saying you need at least 1g

 

[Ateam2023]

How much eq per week do you like for a bulk? I was thinking 600mg would be a good place to start but then I see posts saying you need at least 1g

intrepid is gone im pretty sure ,, Banned months ago,,

 

[malfeasance]

How much eq per week do you like for a bulk? I was thinking 600mg would be a good place to start but then I see posts saying you need at least 1g

I had good results from 900mg a week along with 600mg testosterone. Added size and no side effects that I noticed until I went to donate blood - my hematocrit was over the limit, and they turned me away.

 

[Type-IIx]

They never said what form of trenbolone they used but they did say they gave 2mg/kg a day. For a 200 lb male that's 1,260mg per week! Also seemed odd that they kept referring to trenbolone as a SARM or designer steroid.

Yeah, this is the study that Victor Black has regurgitated ad nauseum. He’s the “Tren is a SARM” guy.

Tren’s delta-4,9,11 structure gives it among the MOST broad homology across the nuclear steroid receptors, that’s why it’s so gestagenic and antagonizes MR and GR.

Farthest thing from a SARM that exists. Well, except for MENT. It definitely “slices” into the AR like a knife though. It’s basically a mirror image of the AR.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Yeah, this is the study that Victor Black has regurgitated ad nauseum. He’s the “Tren is a SARM” guy.

Tren’s delta-4,9,11 structure gives it among the MOST broad homology across the nuclear steroid receptors, that’s why it’s so gestagenic and antagonizes MR and GR.

Farthest thing from a SARM that exists. Well, except for MENT. It definitely “slices” into the AR like a knife though. It’s basically a mirror image of the AR.

Of course it would be Victor black spouting that. He seems to do the exact opposite of if his goal of harm reduction. Saying tren is a SARM instead of the most potent AAS could lead younger people to try it. He's also got everyone thinking EQ will destroy your kidneys. And he says all you need to get huge is trt test with high primo or masteron because they are all equal on an mg per mg basis. Sounds like a great way to waste time and money. I'm sure he's said a lot more nonsense too

 

[ve79]

Of course it would be Victor black spouting that. He seems to do the exact opposite of if his goal of harm reduction. Saying tren is a SARM instead of the most potent AAS could lead younger people to try it. He's also got everyone thinking EQ will destroy your kidneys. And he says all you need to get huge is trt test with high primo or masteron because they are all equal on an mg per mg basis. Sounds like a great way to waste time and money. I'm sure he's said a lot more nonsense too

That's the one thing I hate more now then ever in today's gym and in fitness social media is encouraging kids to take tren the most powerful toxic compound and kids taking it blindly without a clue what there doing. It really tics me off

 

[mikeh1998]

Sorry, I did not read all six pages to see if this was already here, but here is a study on trenbolone in rats, to explore whether tren might be used as an effective and safe weight loss agent

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0039128X14003109#:~:text=Trenbolone%20(17%CE%B2%2Dhydroxyestra%2D4,androgenic%20potency%20compared%20to%20TEST.

In 6 weeks, fat mass increased by 34 ± 7% in CTRLs (p < 0.01). Fat mass decreased by 37 ± 6% and lean mass increased by 11 ± 4% with TREN (p < 0.05). Serum triglycerides, HDL and LDL were reduced by 62%, 57% and 78% (p < 0.05) respectively in TREN rats.

They never said what form of trenbolone they used but they did say they gave 2mg/kg a day. For a 200 lb male that's 1,260mg per week! Also seemed odd that they kept referring to trenbolone as a SARM or designer steroid.

Despite all this that result is shocking to me, the non-tren rats got fucking shredded and massive here in just 6 weeks?

The tren vials on my desk are screaming at me like the Green Goblin mask... Just 10 weeks... 100 mg...

I cannot come up with a rational reason to not take tren at this point... What the fuck...

 

[Nidus]

Despite all this that result is shocking to me, the non-tren rats got fucking shredded and massive here in just 6 weeks?

The tren vials on my desk are screaming at me like the Green Goblin mask... Just 10 weeks... 100 mg...

I cannot come up with a rational reason to not take tren at this point... What the fuck...

Tempted to run 50-70mg during a cut myself, still got some Tren E here

 

[mikeh1998]

Tempted to run 50-70mg during a cut myself, still got some Tren E here

I hopped on Tren Ace today. No joke. 100 mg per week for 10 weeks.


View: https://youtu.be/kaeqLI2uFTw

 

[Nidus]

I hopped on Tren Ace today. No joke. 100 mg per week for 10 weeks.


View: https://youtu.be/kaeqLI2uFTw

Keep us updated on how it goes!

 

[mikeh1998]

Keep us updated on how it goes!

I am thinking about starting a cycle log thread but am not confident posting pics yet

Reading the tren recomping stories drives me insane because it seems so much more effective than taking testosterone for recomping. I have also been rethinking whether or not “test is best” is even true. It seems like what people do is get massive off nandrolone or trenbolone and then once they have enough muscle they settle down to just taking TRT and telling everyone testosterone is all you need to get big, everything else is toxic.

 

[Steppe_daddy]

I’ve been on 100 mg Tren A for the past 6 weeks with very little side effects and nice bloods. Lipids are shit, but they were shit before Tren. Liver and kidney are right outside the reference range.

Some days the aggression is increased, but imo that has more to do with the caloric restriction & cardio than the Tren.

100 mg is my sweet spot

 

[Nidus]

I’ve been on 100 mg Tren A for the past 6 weeks with very little side effects and nice bloods. Lipids are shit, but they were shit before Tren. Liver and kidney are right outside the reference range.

Some days the aggression is increased, but imo that has more to do with the caloric restriction & cardio than the Tren.

100 mg is my sweet spot

I would love to hear from other Tren users how much Tren they run and how it impacted their lipids, liver and kidney markers.

 

[xrayphoton13]

I am thinking about starting a cycle log thread but am not confident posting pics yet

Reading the tren recomping stories drives me insane because it seems so much more effective than taking testosterone for recomping. I have also been rethinking whether or not “test is best” is even true. It seems like what people do is get massive off nandrolone or trenbolone and then once they have enough muscle they settle down to just taking TRT and telling everyone testosterone is all you need to get big, everything else is toxic.

The Todd Lee method. I know Todd Lee said he got the most size off nandrolone only cycles. I'm not positive but I think Jordan Peters might be similar

 

[gbochatt]

The Todd Lee method. I know Todd Lee said he got the most size off nandrolone only cycles. I'm not positive but I think Jordan Peters might be similar

Taeian Clark also says this, but he’s kind of a moron. I’ll be running deca as a base on my rebound into my office season due to Jordan Peters talking about it. Very interested to see what happens. I’ll run a log in a few weeks covering it.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Taeian Clark also says this, but he’s kind of a moron. I’ll be running deca as a base on my rebound into my office season due to Jordan Peters talking about it. Very interested to see what happens. I’ll run a log in a few weeks covering it.

Looking forward to it! Yeah I thought Taeian Clark was either a very intelligent autist or an idiot at first but the more I read from him it's definitely the second of the two

I will say I tried deca/dbol myself to see and it will throw on strength and size quickly and joints feel great plus not having to worry about AI or hair loss makes it idiot proof. But I do worry about living on it for life like some people on his FB group. I'm not sure how good long term deca is for your heart or dbol for your liver