TrenboloneTax: Hybrid Cycling / Lifting Log aka Make Hulk Bike Fast

What did you build the majority of your mass on? IIRC, you mentioned in a prior thread you ran Test only for something like 4 years. Did you accrue it mostly during that period?

I guess what I'm getting at is were other compounds that much of a game-changer for you, or did you just hit a limit of what was tolerable with Test? Did the year of Tren at 100 contribute much?
 
What did you build the majority of your mass on?
I would say I built most of my mass on test, yes. Doses ranging from 500mg per week to 1.5g per week.
IIRC, you mentioned in a prior thread you ran Test only for something like 4 years. Did you accrue it mostly during that period?
I did accrue a decent amount of mass post football. That's when I started dabbling with other oils due to no risk of testing and not worried of metabolites sticking around in detection window.

Post football, I used a lot of tren cuz I was a fat boy that just wanted to be ripped. Diet has never really been "perfect" or "on point" for any long periods of time, except for 6 months increments here and there.

I was in a perpetual recomp phase from post football till probably a couple years ago (maybe 5 years total duration?) Sometimes oscillating between surplus and deficit, but on average, hitting a slight surplus.

This was a longer time period, and it's hard to quantify how much muscle tissue I accrued during this period versus the test only period. Test only period was like straight up mass monster bulk mode. Post football periods are more of recomp less dirty bulk.

I would characterize my AAS use into pretty distinct phases:

1) Test
2) Test + Tren
3) Test + Primo + GH
4) Current: Test + Mast + EQ + GH

I guess what I'm getting at is were other compounds that much of a game-changer for you, or did you just hit a limit of what was tolerable with Test?

The limit of test tolerability for me is always E2. When I was fatter I had much worse E2 issues. Now I feel like I can run quite a decent amount with very little high E2 sides.

I don't think other compounds were much of a game changer for adding on muscle tissue. I just wanted to try them all and I liked the look and effect from some more so than just test solo.

Part of why I really liked primo, and part of why I really like EQ + Mast. Good aesthetic benefit with the additional E2 control.

Did the year of Tren at 100 contribute much?
Did not really contribute to much additional muscle. This was a period of time I focused pretty hard on career + nutrition. Definitely helped me get leaner and stay leaner, though.

Re: GH. I didn't use GH until like 5 years ago for the first time? And I didn't start megadosing GH until early 2023. Early 2023 is when I started 12iu per day.

It's certainly had an impact on my physique though and I think contributed to the roundness / 3D look I have.

Gun to my head and I can only run 1 AAS the rest of my life (on top of a TRT base), with the goal being add as much LBM as possible? It's gonna be more test.

Gun to my head and I can only run 2 AAS the rest of my life? This one is tough. It would either be Test + EQ or Test + Primo due to the E2 control from both of them for me and the lack of need to use an AI.
 
I would say I built most of my mass on test, yes. Doses ranging from 500mg per week to 1.5g per week.

I did accrue a decent amount of mass post football. That's when I started dabbling with other oils due to no risk of testing and not worried of metabolites sticking around in detection window.

Post football, I used a lot of tren cuz I was a fat boy that just wanted to be ripped. Diet has never really been "perfect" or "on point" for any long periods of time, except for 6 months increments here and there.

I was in a perpetual recomp phase from post football till probably a couple years ago (maybe 5 years total duration?) Sometimes oscillating between surplus and deficit, but on average, hitting a slight surplus.

This was a longer time period, and it's hard to quantify how much muscle tissue I accrued during this period versus the test only period. Test only period was like straight up mass monster bulk mode. Post football periods are more of recomp less dirty bulk.

I would characterize my AAS use into pretty distinct phases:

1) Test
2) Test + Tren
3) Test + Primo + GH
4) Current: Test + Mast + EQ + GH



The limit of test tolerability for me is always E2. When I was fatter I had much worse E2 issues. Now I feel like I can run quite a decent amount with very little high E2 sides.

I don't think other compounds were much of a game changer for adding on muscle tissue. I just wanted to try them all and I liked the look and effect from some more so than just test solo.

Part of why I really liked primo, and part of why I really like EQ + Mast. Good aesthetic benefit with the additional E2 control.


Did not really contribute to much additional muscle. This was a period of time I focused pretty hard on career + nutrition. Definitely helped me get leaner and stay leaner, though.

Re: GH. I didn't use GH until like 5 years ago for the first time? And I didn't start megadosing GH until early 2023. Early 2023 is when I started 12iu per day.

It's certainly had an impact on my physique though and I think contributed to the roundness / 3D look I have.

Gun to my head and I can only run 1 AAS the rest of my life (on top of a TRT base), with the goal being add as much LBM as possible? It's gonna be more test.

Gun to my head and I can only run 2 AAS the rest of my life? This one is tough. It would either be Test + EQ or Test + Primo due to the E2 control from both of them for me and the lack of need to use an AI.
Appreciate the detail man :) I started GH at 5IU per day for the first time around 3 weeks ago and I feel/perform like I've had a better response to it than just adding additional AAS outside of Test + Tren instead. I also lowered AAS dose at the same time. Combining it with Test/Mast/Tren and I dropped the dose of all 3 - halving the Mast/Tren. I've started to ramp the Test back up a bit more - only to 525 a week from 450 - and I feel a lot better overall and still seeing progress in the gym on progressive overload.
 
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Appreciate the detail man :)
No problem brother. One of the reasons I’m here is to share my experience (the good, the bad, the absolutely retarded). Always happy to answer anything transparently and go into detail. I’m not trying to trick anyone into anything nor sell anything lol. Just one meathead trying to help other meatheads.
I started GH at 5IU per day for the first time around 3 weeks ago and I feel/perform like I've had a better response to it than just adding additional AAS outside of Test + Tren instead.
I should’ve mentioned that I really wish I had added GH earlier. Definitely a big believer in pulling multiple levers (AAS + GH + slin) instead of ramping AAS way higher.

also lowered AAS dose at the same time. Combining it with Test/Mast/Tren and I dropped the dose of all 3 - halving the Mast/Tren. I've started to ramp the Test back up a bit more - only to 525 a week from 450 - and I feel a lot better overall and still seeing progress in the gym on progressive overload.
I think this is the most intelligent way to continue gaining in a “safer” manner compared to driving AAS sky high. And feel good while doing it. And helping reduce chance of injury.
 
Push day. Left labrum / rotator cuff flaring up. Left pec twinge. Next few push workouts we go lighter higher reps and avoid the movements that caused issue.

Definitely felt the Msten more today. Stuff is pretty cool. Don’t feel nearly as toxic as SDrol. But I should probably get some TUDCA and be better about hydrating.

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Push day. Left labrum / rotator cuff flaring up. Left pec twinge. Next few push workouts we go lighter higher reps and avoid the movements that caused issue.

Definitely felt the Msten more today. Stuff is pretty cool. Don’t feel nearly as toxic as SDrol. But I should probably get some TUDCA and be better about hydrating.

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Looking absolutely swole in this pic. Damn dude! Surprised you can even fit on a bike.
 
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dem traps and shoulders. what is your hr like?
 
My RHR is 80 right now, up 12 points since I started the blast in late August. Was 68 in August.

The GH + Reta impacts it quite significantly. Obviously the additional AAS load too.
 
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