Triple B Solutions

He already is successful.

The market has changed my dude. Y’all’s method of “vetting” (if that’s what you think you’re doing) is becoming obsolete and you can’t even see it. Even my old ass can see it.

The real problem (for you) is there is just too much quality raws in circulation today. It’s actually harder to find shitty gear than it is good gear. Resources on how to brew are readily available that even a moron can get it right.

It used to be the vetting was about probing to find if quality was up to par. Now you are reduced to nit picking about labels and fussing over 10 mgs and worrying if a source sent his raws for testing on a Tuesday when he said he sent them Monday. Pathetic !

How do you gauge success? You ordering means he’s successful?

I’d say sending 30 packs a day is a minimum for success on MESO. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think Trip here is doing more that 5-10 packs a day.

And lately, since he’s actually had some testing done, we’re nitpicking about his viagra being shit and his DHB testing 20% underdosed.

What was that you were saying about “even a moron can get it right”?
 
How do you know he's successful. Judging from the # of pm's I've received recently from junior members as well as long time lurkers asking where they can find quality domestic gear suggests otherwise. They aren't buying from him.

Raws are just as shitty now. His dhb and viagra results pretty much prove that.

You can cry all you want but the vetting process here isn't going to change.

He’s been crying about vetting for at least 2 years now. Hasn’t changed.

He also laughed at everyone that gave Sym a hard time for a couple hundred vials with floaters [emoji2369]
 
Ok. I’m curious what others think.

Let’s do a survey...

A) Trip is autistic or otherwise “slow”

B) Trip has a drug and/or alcohol problem

C) Trip is a fine young man just trying to learn the ropes of the hard-fought complicated illegal steroid selling game.

D) Trip is a full-blown addict
Option E. Dyslexic.
 
Who gives a fuck about where who gets what through who said what got flipped into what was said about blah fucking blah blah blah. To me this is a middle school playground. Its went from "saftey harm reduction vetting" to bullshit that matters NONE. Worse than toxic females gossiping about their best friend thats in the other room. I mean come on....WHATS REALLY THE FUCKING OVERALL OBJECTIVE??? That products are tested. That they keep getting tested. That products are dosed correctly. If they arent dosed correctly that he states they arent and fixes the problem. Whether dudes a compulsive liar and gets his raws from nancy pelosi.....who gives a fuck. Tested, proven, clean, and safe is what matters RIGHT???? Seriously....am i right or wrong here? Talk all the shit you want. Tell me if i dont like it then kick rocks. I know im a new guy....but im also not a dumbass. Ive heard what you veteran vetters say this board is about. This thread has become FAR from it. I have a backbone and know this comment is going to get negative replies. I aint scared nor will i feed into bullshit. Facts are facts. And if you all come at me with bullshit and bullying instead of forward progress for the "vetter cause" then it proves my point. Hope yall have a good day. Yall take pride in your vetting process (as you should) but from my point of view....Id be ashamed to be part of it at this point.
 
Foreal though @BigBaldBeardGuy....dude youve been my hero (no homo;)) since i followed these boards loooong before i registered. You have an important job and i believe you do it well for the most part. You have ALOT of good intentions and contributions to MESO. But how is whether anyone being autistic, a drug addict, whether they sell one pack or 50.... Whether their level of success is your standard of success, etc etc etc??? How is any of that "vetting"??? All in all it has become a form of belittling. Belittling=bullying.....am i wrong? Half this shit is exactly that.... shit. Ive seen you as a leader since ive lurked on meso. What qualities do leaders bestow??? What do influencers bestow??? Seems like a bunch of bandwagon followers at this point. Not taking sides or dogging on anyone. Just trying to make sense of it all. I came here over all other options due to what meso stands for. Its turned to a circus the last few weeks. I say we all go back to the way you BBBG take pride in.... HARM REDUCTION VETTING
 
Whether dudes a compulsive liar and gets his raws from nancy pelosi.....who gives a fuck.
I was with you up until this part. If she’s his raw source then I’m going to need a few follow up questions to be answered.

But seriously, I don’t think you’re totally wrong. I also don’t think the guys who are going hard after him are wrong, either. There’s probably a truth that’s somewhere between those two extremes. And yes, both positions have been taken to their extremes. The logical endpoint was always going to be something like this thread. It was bound to happen. Trip didn’t do himself any favors, either. I’ve tried very hard not to be negative or get too personal with my comments. I’ve tried to give constructive advice. Others did too, in the beginning. But not everyone has as long of a fuse as me (or you, I’m guessing). Some guys have a bullshit meter that gets pegged to red very fast. And you know what? That’s fine by me. This place is a slaughterhouse for sources. If they survive here it’s because they took a beating and still kept going. That counts for something in my book (which recently got banned from Amazon).
 
Foreal though @BigBaldBeardGuy....dude youve been my hero (no homo;)) since i followed these boards loooong before i registered. You have an important job and i believe you do it well for the most part. You have ALOT of good intentions and contributions to MESO. But how is whether anyone being autistic, a drug addict, whether they sell one pack or 50.... Whether their level of success is your standard of success, etc etc etc??? How is any of that "vetting"??? All in all it has become a form of belittling. Belittling=bullying.....am i wrong? Half this shit is exactly that.... shit. Ive seen you as a leader since ive lurked on meso. What qualities do leaders bestow??? What do influencers bestow??? Seems like a bunch of bandwagon followers at this point. Not taking sides or dogging on anyone. Just trying to make sense of it all. I came here over all other options due to what meso stands for. Its turned to a circus the last few weeks. I say we all go back to the way you BBBG take pride in.... HARM REDUCTION VETTING

Trip being a drug addict would be a serious concern. Never the less, you're essentially telling everyone how you want them to post. When you open a forum, feel free to make your rules for vetting a sticky.
 
Who gives a fuck about where who gets what through who said what got flipped into what was said about blah fucking blah blah blah. To me this is a middle school playground. Its went from "saftey harm reduction vetting" to bullshit that matters NONE. Worse than toxic females gossiping about their best friend thats in the other room. I mean come on....WHATS REALLY THE FUCKING OVERALL OBJECTIVE??? That products are tested. That they keep getting tested. That products are dosed correctly. If they arent dosed correctly that he states they arent and fixes the problem. Whether dudes a compulsive liar and gets his raws from nancy pelosi.....who gives a fuck. Tested, proven, clean, and safe is what matters RIGHT???? Seriously....am i right or wrong here? Talk all the shit you want. Tell me if i dont like it then kick rocks. I know im a new guy....but im also not a dumbass. Ive heard what you veteran vetters say this board is about. This thread has become FAR from it. I have a backbone and know this comment is going to get negative replies. I aint scared nor will i feed into bullshit. Facts are facts. And if you all come at me with bullshit and bullying instead of forward progress for the "vetter cause" then it proves my point. Hope yall have a good day. Yall take pride in your vetting process (as you should) but from my point of view....Id be ashamed to be part of it at this point.

You can do whatever you want. Order if you choose. Don’t order. See how you can decide? Easy huh?

But whether YOU order or not doesn’t change the fact that this source has only submitted a total of 15 samples covering two batches of products.

I’ll also remind you that he didn’t want to send samples at all. He finally did and the viagra was garbage. The DHB was tested to be 20% underdosed.

Now those may or may not have come to light on their own. Who knows. But the testing certainly sped that process up. How many guys could have got ripped on the viagra? Potentially quite a few right?

We have said from the beginning of this thread that MESO only wants GREAT sources. All he had to do is 1) show pics of his lab (we aren’t even kicking that dead horse anymore) 2) test his raws 3) test his products 4) offer compensation for blind testing (which he has done).

Now how much circle jerk action do you think would be in this thread if he had listened and done all of that at the start? You’re new here so you haven’t witnessed a thread where all of those 4 things play out. Although the threads start the same as this, after about 10-20 pages they are significantly different. GREAT UGL threads are filled with happy customers. I pointed this out previously, about 100 pages ago.

Hello? Happy customers? Where are you? Anything happy to say?

There’s not many, huh?

Hey, instead of attacking our vetting here (because we work hard at it and it’s honestly a little offensive to devalue our efforts) how bout you help put an end to the circle jerking and send Trips a PM and suggest he simply hurry up his lab testing of raws and products. It’s nearly his 3 month anniversary here. This is around the time GREAT labs are trying very hard to handle the orders. Over 30 packs a day with a $200 minimum? Picture that? Think of those bitcoins clinging into the e-wallet. Who wouldn’t want that?

Trip should have just listened at the start.
 
You can do whatever you want. Order if you choose. Don’t order. See how you can decide? Easy huh?

But whether YOU order or not doesn’t change the fact that this source has only submitted a total of 15 samples covering two batches of products.

I’ll also remind you that he didn’t want to send samples at all. He finally did and the viagra was garbage. The DHB was tested to be 20% underdosed.

Now those may or may not have come to light on their own. Who knows. But the testing certainly sped that process up. How many guys could have got ripped on the viagra? Potentially quite a few right?

We have said from the beginning of this thread that MESO only wants GREAT sources. All he had to do is 1) show pics of his lab (we aren’t even kicking that dead horse anymore) 2) test his raws 3) test his products 4) offer compensation for blind testing (which he has done).

Now how much circle jerk action do you think would be in this thread if he had listened and done all of that at the start? You’re new here so you haven’t witnessed a thread where all of those 4 things play out. Although the threads start the same as this, after about 10-20 pages they are significantly different. GREAT UGL threads are filled with happy customers. I pointed this out previously, about 100 pages ago.

Hello? Happy customers? Where are you? Anything happy to say?

There’s not many, huh?

Hey, instead of attacking our vetting here (because we work hard at it and it’s honestly a little offensive to devalue our efforts) how bout you help put an end to the circle jerking and send Trips a PM and suggest he simply hurry up his lab testing of raws and products. It’s nearly his 3 month anniversary here. This is around the time GREAT labs are trying very hard to handle the orders. Over 30 packs a day with a $200 minimum? Picture that? Think of those bitcoins clinging into the e-wallet. Who wouldn’t want that?

Trip should have just listened at the start.
Now thats the kind of talk that made you my hero (again...no homo). To me that was leadership talk....no bullshit or feeding into the circus. Thank you for your answer. And just for the record....I appreciate GREATLY the vetting process....when it is actually productive vetting
 
Who gives a fuck about where who gets what through who said what got flipped into what was said about blah fucking blah blah blah. To me this is a middle school playground. Its went from "saftey harm reduction vetting" to bullshit that matters NONE. Worse than toxic females gossiping about their best friend thats in the other room. I mean come on....WHATS REALLY THE FUCKING OVERALL OBJECTIVE??? That products are tested. That they keep getting tested. That products are dosed correctly. If they arent dosed correctly that he states they arent and fixes the problem. Whether dudes a compulsive liar and gets his raws from nancy pelosi.....who gives a fuck. Tested, proven, clean, and safe is what matters RIGHT???? Seriously....am i right or wrong here? Talk all the shit you want. Tell me if i dont like it then kick rocks. I know im a new guy....but im also not a dumbass. Ive heard what you veteran vetters say this board is about. This thread has become FAR from it. I have a backbone and know this comment is going to get negative replies. I aint scared nor will i feed into bullshit. Facts are facts. And if you all come at me with bullshit and bullying instead of forward progress for the "vetter cause" then it proves my point. Hope yall have a good day. Yall take pride in your vetting process (as you should) but from my point of view....Id be ashamed to be part of it at this point.
@BigBaldBeardGuy already explained it well so that doesn't need to be repeated but I will add to what he said.

I suggest you go back and read how the successful sources did here (Symbiotics and TGI are two of the most recent) and how things ended with them. It wasn't pretty and at this point they were way ahead of triple b.

Its not like these sources are out for the public to view. Quite the contrary because what they are doing is illegal. We know nothing about their private lives, their vices, income etc. The proof is right in front of us that they can go bad at any minute.

How many sources do you know retired or gave it up going out on top without fucking their customers?
 
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It's amazes me that people can overlook personality flaws as is they mean nothing..

Do you surround yourself with people that are untrustworthy and are continuously misleading and lie to you?

Would you trust someone like that with your money, health or freedom?

Not at all saying trip is an addict but since it was mentioned.. I've known junkies and crack heads, and I wouldn't trust any of them with my money because of what I consider obvious reasons.

That's what this style of vetting does accomplish..

It helps to bring out character flaws and can reveal the potential for someone to disappear, or give you a hard time and a line of bullshit when things eventually do go wrong.

But by all means people.. overlook that stuff if you like and place your order..
 
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@BigBaldBeardGuy already explained it well so that doesn't need to be repeated but I will add to what he said.

I suggest you go back and read how the successful sources did here (Symbiotics and TGI are two of the most recent) and how things ended with them. It wasn't pretty.

Its not like these sources are out for the public to view. Quite the contrary because what they are doing is illegal. We know nothing about their private lives, their vices, income etc. The proof is right in front of us that they can go bad at any minute.

How many sources do you know retired or gave it up going out on top without fucking their customers?
I understand and agree with what youre saying. But i dont feel your answers touches the fact that 50%+ (<<being generous) of these 179 pages goes no where, gets us nowhere, and helps nothing. The majority doesnt reflect what so ever toward saftey, testing, final accurate product. Its all a bunch of he said, she said, you said, but didnt you say....bullcrap.
 
You can do whatever you want. Order if you choose. Don’t order. See how you can decide? Easy huh?

But whether YOU order or not doesn’t change the fact that this source has only submitted a total of 15 samples covering two batches of products.

I’ll also remind you that he didn’t want to send samples at all. He finally did and the viagra was garbage. The DHB was tested to be 20% underdosed.

Now those may or may not have come to light on their own. Who knows. But the testing certainly sped that process up. How many guys could have got ripped on the viagra? Potentially quite a few right?

We have said from the beginning of this thread that MESO only wants GREAT sources. All he had to do is 1) show pics of his lab (we aren’t even kicking that dead horse anymore) 2) test his raws 3) test his products 4) offer compensation for blind testing (which he has done).

Now how much circle jerk action do you think would be in this thread if he had listened and done all of that at the start? You’re new here so you haven’t witnessed a thread where all of those 4 things play out. Although the threads start the same as this, after about 10-20 pages they are significantly different. GREAT UGL threads are filled with happy customers. I pointed this out previously, about 100 pages ago.

Hello? Happy customers? Where are you? Anything happy to say?

There’s not many, huh?

Hey, instead of attacking our vetting here (because we work hard at it and it’s honestly a little offensive to devalue our efforts) how bout you help put an end to the circle jerking and send Trips a PM and suggest he simply hurry up his lab testing of raws and products. It’s nearly his 3 month anniversary here. This is around the time GREAT labs are trying very hard to handle the orders. Over 30 packs a day with a $200 minimum? Picture that? Think of those bitcoins clinging into the e-wallet. Who wouldn’t want that?

Trip should have just listened at the start.

While this 180 page stinker does contain some outright silliness, it doesn't help when a source needs to be asked the same question 6-7 times before he answers it either.

It's clear that Trip plans to do thing's his own ass backwards way at his own snail's pace. Sell untested product, then test it and keep his fingers crossed that he won't have to scramble for excuses while working damage control.

i said a couple day's ago, let him loose. If someone gets screwed, it's on them. The info is all here. If they don't want to read it and wind up getting the short end of the stick, it's not because we all didn't try to warn them.

If he still doesn't understand how to do thing's in an order that will best protect him after this many pages, then he never will. i'm done with this clown. i'll be back to laugh smugly when this big top tent collapses.
 
I understand and agree with what youre saying. But i dont feel your answers touches the fact that 50%+ (<<being generous) of these 179 pages goes no where, gets us nowhere, and helps nothing. The majority doesnt reflect what so ever toward saftey, testing, final accurate product. Its all a bunch of he said, she said, you said, but didnt you say....bullcrap.
You do understand that it wouldn't be 179 pages if the source would answer questions and be more transparent than he has.

Again go look at Symbiotics and TGI threads. There's no comparison.
 
I understand and agree with what youre saying. But i dont feel your answers touches the fact that 50%+ (<<being generous) of these 179 pages goes no where, gets us nowhere, and helps nothing. The majority doesnt reflect what so ever toward saftey, testing, final accurate product. Its all a bunch of he said, she said, you said, but didnt you say....bullcrap.
probably because eventually people give up trying to coddle a source when the source continues to do the exact same thing over and over. Frustration sets in and, well, why try to be productive anymore.
 
It's amazes me that people can overlook personality flaws as is they mean nothing..

Do you surround yourself with people that are untrustworthy and are continuously misleading and lie to you?

Not at all saying trip is an addict but since it was mentioned.. I've known junkies and crack heads, and I wouldn't trust any of them with my money because of what I consider obvious reasons.

Would you trust someone like that with your money, health or freedom?

That's what this style of vetting does accomplish..

It helps to bring out character flaws and can reveal the potential for someone to disappear, or give you a hard time and a line of bullshit when things eventually do go wrong.

But by all means people.. overlook that stuff if you like and place your order..
Not saying he is a compulsive liar but say he is. Do testing results lie? Does it matter if he gets his raws from syn, the pope, or whoever as long as the product tests are acceptable??? Does it matter that he is an alcoholic or an addict as long as the production of his products are safe and accurate?? Not sticking up for a source. Im just trying to bring common sense to the surface
 
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