It’s not the consumers responsibility to do all the testing for you, sure some blind samples here and there are good but YOU should be testing every batch you put out
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Bumpygooch
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You understand that source testing amounts to a giant leap of faith, right? Who cares how many samples he sends out, he KNOWS he’s sending out good samples. It kind of IS on consumers to do the blind testing, that’s what makes it blind. The source cannot be relied upon to send out blind samples, they’ll just make sure all the samples marked to go out are good.
I’m still watching. I’m just taking a less active role. Waiting on testing results.
@Jn2k2 is right. The idea with the testing here should be:
1) you test each product, each batch
2) members random and blindly test your products.
When that’s done, it earns or breaks trust. For example, if your batch 2 Test E sample is 335 mg/ml and someone sends a sample in that reports 333 mg/ml then congratulations, you earn more trust (that usually means more customers). However if the customer sample reports 210 mg/ml then you lose trust (and lose customers)
You should be proud of your product and with tested gear you’ll have more customers than the little dicked douchebags over on Brewly. Add the testing results to your pastebin. It will literally sell your gear for you.
I’ve seen it before. And now that you’ve been making some sales, it’s time for you to invest 10% to 15% into your business. Get some samples out for testing.
And please tell me your new fancy labels will have batch numbers.
so does buying with zero testing. You haven’t been here very long but the two most successful sources here tested every batch they put out. If you enjoy sending gear off overseas by all means do it. Bottom line is sources should test everything they put out
Shhh... we have a process that works here.
Why the fuck would you NOT want the source to have his products tested. Expect more from your sources. It’s cheap for them and they can use it for marketing.
We spot check and the source KNOWS if he gets caught lying about his testing that he’ll get triple burned out of here.
Bumpygooch
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I didn’t say buying without testing isnt, that’s irrelevant. So is source testing. Again, who gives a shit they test every batch and it comes back good, of course it did, if it didn’t, would you even know? Blind testing is the only way there’s any accountability. Sure, it looks good if they test every batch. Look at Sparta, he stuck around until that first blind test came back shitty and he vanished as soon as it did. Yes, there’s a correlation between me not being here long and not being intelligent....well played.
Bumpygooch
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Again, I never wrote they shouldn’t. But, accepting the results implies there’s a level of trust. I mean, they’re not selling soap and testing for the amount of lavender. They’re still drug dealers. I defer back to my Sparta example and blind testing, he couldn’t disappear quickly enough.
I don’t get how this guy is making an argument against holding a source accountable with frequent testing
Bumpygooch
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Where did I make and argument AGAINST it? This isn’t a difficult concept. How are you corroborating their tests without blind testing? If a source sends out a test and it comes back bad, will you ever know? My point is without blind testing, you’re just accepting the source’s good test, well, because, he’s a good guy.
There’s a process that you don’t understand because you haven’t been here long enough to see it in effect.
Source tests EVERY product EVERY batch, if he wants to send in “perfect” samples and then underdose the gear that’s his prerogative. But if he gets caught be a customer spot check he’s getting BOOTED out of here (not literally but his sales will plummet). It would be source suicide. Usually no 2nd chances.
That’s the power MESO has if we all side together as customers. That’s why we come down hard on someone sticking up for the source, that person gets tossed out of the tribe.
I know at least two guys have sent sample(s) in for testing. It’s slow with the USPS.
Bumpygooch
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My Sparta point precisely, although I don’t think he ever sent out tests, the blind tests bit him. Simple point, I don’t trust the drug dealer to be honest about testing the illegal drugs he’s selling.
Bumpygooch
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USPS prevented me from sending out samples, now I can’t drive for a couple weeks.
BobbySweeney
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Excellent.
Akimopio
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That should make it even more worrisome that a source can’t even take that one simple step to increase his sales by a large amount. At the very least it shows that the source actually has the raws/finished oils needed. It’s the one tool we have here to make sure what we are getting is what we paid for, oh and the fact that we are injecting it into our bodies should make everybody wait for the test results before purchasing anything from this source.
cochino
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The problem with Sparta is he only posted the good results and he was caught doing that. Had he posted the bad results , alerted everyone and try to fix the problem he would still be sourcing here.
Sym had a few batches that were bad, but he alerted everyone and made things good for the people who ordered.
@BigBaldBeardGuy They will indeed include batch numbers. I do listen to you.
I also agree with testing, I'm working on it. I would like it to go along with the batch numbers. You certainly aren't lying about it boosting sales, I completely sold out of Tren A. Raws are on order and should be here within the next few days. Primo was pretty close to selling out again as well.
I also agree with testing, I'm working on it. I would like it to go along with the batch numbers. You certainly aren't lying about it boosting sales, I completely sold out of Tren A. Raws are on order and should be here within the next few days. Primo was pretty close to selling out again as well.
Bumpygooch
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Precisely my point, the untrustworthy drug dealer, surprising.
This is all we want. Sources that listen to what MESO wants. If you do that you’ll have happy customers.
Your concern is understood. But I already explained how we handle that here at MESO. SST cared more about Sparta than the members there. Me and another MESO member at the time got banned for posting that Sparta had real bad aromasin results. The mods called it “spreading FUD”.
It’s the opposite here. As soon as bad test results show, the source gets hammered with negativity.
