TRT options?

[Bigdawg26]

It is very very rare to not recover HPTA function especially if you are only doing it for less than a year. I blasted and crushed for 3 years straight and still recovered mine no problem. (Tho it is highly individual)
Hcg makes the recovery even faster
I will say once you start it's extremely hard to stop.

Well there goes that idea. Shows how very little I know.

 

[Bigdawg26]

As others have stated, try your PC first. So glad I did! Just go in there and tell him that your sex life is nonexistent, you come home from work and flop straight on the couch, work is slacking as the motivation just isn’t there, you get the idea. Tell him you have a coworker who recently got put on trt and you can’t believe the change you’ve seen in him and that you would like a better quality and of life that a slightly higher testosterone level would give you. Good luck!

I literally had the exact conversation the other day while I was there which is why he ran the labs in the first place. . Which all of that is true. Only hope I have is that his nurse is the one that called me today and gave me the results. I’m going to schedule another visit again and go over it with him in person.

 

[Bigdawg26]

I am jumping here because I am a noob too in a similar situation: I have 220-ish testo and considering going to TRT clinic; right now doing other hormones panel to try to understand why my testo is so low but if nothing is crazy messed up I was thinking to get some TRT. I am 37 years old and despite having less libido than at 21 but I got my wife pregnant one year ago and still have a decent libido and everything down seems to work fine, however I find myself always tired during the day, not really depressed but for sure drained and have a big luck of motivation to training (and I got some weight in for that reason that I struggle to get rid off), I get some brain fog after lunch time that make me having a hard time concentrating at work etc so I try to weak up early and do most of the mental focused work in the morning before lunch.

Question for the more expert that can be useful to the author of this topic if it is in the same condition:
Can joining a TRT with a moderate dosage of testo + HCG for one year or so will shut down your HPTA system forever? I would like to bring the levels to normal so to get the right motivation to lose weight hit the gym and eventually get off from it within 9 months to one year, but worried that even for such period of time I will shut down. On the other side one could argue to don't start TRT at all and try to lose weight, hit the gym and see if it helps the natural level, but in the past year I found big lack of motivation in being able to lose weight and train properly and no idea how much test can help me with that and my mental focus so kind of interested to try out to see if it is so beneficial.
Thanks

Yeah I’m exactly where you are. Except 42 with shit energy and motivation. Test levels may not be my issue. I’ve just heard that it’s a game changer if you get on it. But that’s only from a few people I know that’s on it.

 

[Isenhart85]

if once you start , you don’t really come off from it , how realistic is it to do it for 35-40 years of yo

Yeah I’m exactly where you are. Except 42 with shit energy and motivation. Test levels may not be my issue. I’ve just heard that it’s a game changer if you get on it. But that’s only from a few people I know that’s on it.

Are you concerned about maintaining it for the last 35+ year ? Does even exist a group of population that has been on TRT dosage for so long ?
I am sure it will be game changer for the next few years and I am very tempted to do TRT for that reason but I am worried that I will have to inject weekly for the next 35+ year ( hopefully )

 

[Bigdawg26]

if once you start , you don’t really come off from it , how realistic is it to do it for 35-40 years of yo

Are you concerned about maintaining it for the last 35+ year ? Does even exist a group of population that has been on TRT dosage for so long ?
I am sure it will be game changer for the next few years and I am very tempted to do TRT for that reason but I am worried that I will have to inject weekly for the next 35+ year ( hopefully )

I’m good with it or atleast I say I am. But I have no idea how much of a hassle it is to maintain. I have no experience at all with TRT or running any gear . And then there’s the issue if it’s not doctor prescribed you always have to deal with a source. Again I have no idea how much trouble that is either. I just assumed that my doc would put me on from symptoms I was having and I figured my levels would be low enough. I know there is endless knowledge here, I haven’t put in any time into looking for a source and what all that comes with. Hell I shit the bed with my intro and posted it in the underground!!

 

[Leg_locker]

Are you concerned about maintaining it for the last 35+ year ? Does even exist a group of population that has been on TRT dosage for so long ?
I am sure it will be game changer for the next few years and I am very tempted to do TRT for that reason but I am worried that I will have to inject weekly for the next 35+ year ( hopefully )

If you look at it from the perspective of 1 injection a week (Test u) and feel significantly better vs having to go on multiple drugs just to keep you alive but not feel any better or end up being a type 2 diabetic and have to Inject yourself daily anyways I'll take the 1 shot (I personally do 2 shots a week cruise and daily pins on blast)
I personally know a few people 50+ on trt and they are different people now from where they started. one of them lost 40 pounds in a year mind you he busted his ass off but wouldn't of had the same motivation or recovery without the aid of trt.
he most definitely added years of quality life vs staying on the same path getting fatter, body breaking down, mind breaking down and ending up being a shell of a human being kept alive with pills.

 

[TrenE]

You need to go to a clinic and pay the premium for trt. They are happy to treat symptoms and let’s face it your test levels are low.
What country you in ?
If you really want to know what’s happening you need to have a decent blood test. Then book in with a clinic.
My guess is you don’t know what Cholesterol is.

 

[Bigdawg26]

You need to go to a clinic and pay the premium for trt. They are happy to treat symptoms and let’s face it your test levels are low.
What country you in ?
If you really want to know what’s happening you need to have a decent blood test. Then book in with a clinic.
My guess is you don’t know what Cholesterol is.

I’m in the US. I didn’t ask what the other numbers were on the lab report. I’m strictly going off the phone conversation with the nurse just stating everything was good.

 

[TrenE]

I’m in the US. I didn’t ask what the other numbers were on the lab report. I’m strictly going off the phone conversation with the nurse just stating everything was good.

Get your test results or go get a full hormone and vitamin test. In America you can order online and get them sent to you.

 

[may2021]

Use a doc or trt clinic for a month or however long it takes you to feel comfortable injecting, then save your time and money and go pharma.

Sustanon is widely available, extremely cheap and takes a second to inject; unlike all the bullshit UG homebrew test.

Keep doing bloods every 6 months.

Done.

 

[Bigdawg26]

So I gets call from the Dr office called this AM and said they were going to put me on TRT. The dosage is .5 every 2 wks. Is that good or that low of a dose even going to do anything? The also said that 1 wk after first inj to come in for labs to see if levels are increasing. After that I have to come back after 2 months to establish a base line.

 

[Rido]

So I gets call from the Dr office called this AM and said they were going to put me on TRT. The dosage is .5 every 2 wks. Is that good or that low of a dose even going to do anything? The also said that 1 wk after first inj to come in for labs to see if levels are increasing. After that I have to come back after 2 months to establish a base line.

thats terrible.

every 2 weeks is garbage with a half life that short.

minimum every week imo and even then, that blows

 

[Deezznutzz]

Most people do testosterone cypionate. 5ml 2x a week. 1ml is 200mg in most vials. At the least .25 ml 2x a week for 100 test a week. What Ester? Sounds like this Dr sucks.

 

[Deezznutzz]

You should enter that dosage on steroidcalculator dot com and show the Dr how bad it sucks. Lol

 

[Deezznutzz]

My advice to anyone who doesn't have insurance and is having trouble with a doctor is go to a hormone specialist trt clinic for at least a year. Yes it will cost about $220 a vial every 10 weeks but you will learn how to read your blood work and learn a lot in that year when they go over your blood work with you. Then you can decide if you just want to self administer yourself getting the testosterone for like $6 a vial up to $35 a vial at most in the underground. Of course run your own Labs every 6 months and you would know how to read them and what to do since you already did it with the trt clinic for a year.

 

[Bigdawg26]

Most people do testosterone cypionate. 5ml 2x a week. 1ml is 200mg in most vials. At the least .25 ml 2x a week for 100 test a week. What Ester? Sounds like this Dr sucks.

At that dose is it even going to raise my levels? After the first labs I’ve got 2 mo before next set of labs. Is there any way to self medicate and see what I like. And then come of so my levels look they haven’t increased and try and get him to up the dose? Or is that not enough time for it to clear. I’m assuming it’s cyp but the nurse didn’t say and I forgot to ask on the ester.

 

[Rido]

Most people do testosterone cypionate. 5ml 2x a week. 1ml is 200mg in most vials. At the least .25 ml 2x a week for 100 test a week. What Ester? Sounds like this Dr sucks.

The problem is uptodate.com(irony) doesn't show the ideal dosing. At some teaching hospitals urology or "mens health". Is giving it atleast weekly now, which shocked me.


I would talk with the doctor. If they will work with the patient. That would be great

 

[Deezznutzz]

At that dose is it even going to raise my levels? After the first labs I’ve got 2 mo before next set of labs. Is there any way to self medicate and see what I like. And then come of so my levels look they haven’t increased and try and get him to up the dose? Or is that not enough time for it to clear. I’m assuming it’s cyp but the nurse didn’t say and I forgot to ask on the ester.

Okay here's the steroidcalculator dot com on cyp. One is if you do .5ml every three and a half days that's 200 a week. The other one is if you do .5ml every 14 days.

If you did 200 a week dosing your daily testosterone output would be 25 and at the lowest it would be almost 16. See it barely dips down. Now if you did what your doctor is saying and it's the same ester it would dip all the way down to less than 2 mg of daily testosterone output which is crap.

 

[Leg_locker]

So I gets call from the Dr office called this AM and said they were going to put me on TRT. The dosage is .5 every 2 wks. Is that good or that low of a dose even going to do anything? The also said that 1 wk after first inj to come in for labs to see if levels are increasing. After that I have to come back after 2 months to establish a base line.

Like others said that is horrible but expected from a GP.
You'd probably end up feeling worse if you did that protocol.

Is there any way to self medicate and see what I like. And then come of so my levels look they haven’t increased and try and get him to up the dose?

if he's recommending 1 shot every 2 weeks he'll probably never increase it to a level/frequency where you'll be optimal. So you could try to self medicate and if your levels come back to high and your doc cuts you off not really a big deal as he doesn't know what he's doing in the first place so no loss to you.
But ultimately since you don't have alot of experience I'd just go with a try clinic at first to learn then do what you want when you feel comfortable like @Deezznutzz said

 

[Bigdawg26]

Like others said that is horrible but expected from a GP.
You'd probably end up feeling worse if you did that protocol.

if he's recommending 1 shot every 2 weeks he'll probably never increase it to a level/frequency where you'll be optimal. So you could try to self medicate and if your levels come back to high and your doc cuts you off not really a big deal as he doesn't know what he's doing in the first place so no loss to you.
But ultimately since you don't have alot of experience I'd just go with a try clinic at first to learn then do what you want when you feel comfortable like @Deezznutzz said

The only problem with self medicating is that I don’t have a source. I’ve read through the underground and found a few possibles but haven’t reached out to see who’s g2g. I did call a TRT clinic today and they are 400.00 per month labs included. How long does someone need to go to a clinic before they could go on their own? Or is the idea to go to a clinic and learn and then try to get doc to prescribe? What are the odds of my PC putting me back on after I work with a TRT clinic? Thanks