TRT options?

[Smashshit]

The main reason I wanted to go through my doc is so he cld monitor whatever needs to be looked at. I still have to use him for the rest of my meds and follow ups for general purposes. I didn’t know how well the HRT or online clinics even looked at long term health. I just figured that was for the hardcore guys. Are you still prescribed or using ugl for treatment?

You’re way overthinking it. If he won’t prescribe it go to a clinic it’s not for hard core guys lol it’s the only way many guys can get the treatment they need because pcp’s have to follow insurance guidelines, fda, blah blah blah.

Yes I’m still prescribed but I treat myself because my pcp’s protocol is from the 80’s. I researched long and hard and learned enough to treat myself before I ever started. The only reason I keep my script from him is because it’s cheap and it allows me to have a legit script and I can travel without any possible issue etc…. I run ugl gear most of the time and stockpile my script though. I only have to see him once a year for bloodwork and my insurance pays for that and my office visit. I do my own bloodwork the rest of the time through a 3rd party vendor.

 

[TrenE]

Take the script.
You need to do a minimum of 100mg a week so you have a script. Then after 4 weeks of injections have bloods. You will be so low the doctor will have to double your dosage. In the meantime go to a new doctor and ask if they can help you.
Now most places in America will have 1ml vials. These are one time only use , if you get 0.5ml to use every two weeks they should give you 1 vial of 200mg a ml. You can then split that into two or 4 injections. If they supply you with a 10ml vial they have to give you a new vial every 28days as this is the law on multi use vials have to be disposed of after 28 days. No one does this as we all know it lasts until you finish it.
If you want help I have all the time to explain things

 

[Smashshit]

The only problem with self medicating is that I don’t have a source. I’ve read through the underground and found a few possibles but haven’t reached out to see who’s g2g. I did call a TRT clinic today and they are 400.00 per month labs included. How long does someone need to go to a clinic before they could go on their own? Or is the idea to go to a clinic and learn and then try to get doc to prescribe? What are the odds of my PC putting me back on after I work with a TRT clinic? Thanks

TrT nation is $99 month and they’ll put you on 200mg a week. Viking alternative is the same. Your doctors protocol is gonna have you feeling worse than now but if he gives you the script to do at home injections you can inject your own protocol which is exactly what I did from the beginning. Plenty of us here can help guide you through the process but if you can get a script form your doc then get it!

 

[TrenE]

Definitely take the doctors script then come back and let us know how many ml a month you get. Hopefully you get a 10ml vial as I have read the 1ml ones are out of stock in a lot of America.

 

[Smashshit]

TrT nation is $99 month and they’ll put you on 200mg a week. Viking alternative is the same. Your doctors protocol is gonna have you feeling worse than now but if he gives you the script to do at home injections you can inject your own protocol which is exactly what I did from the beginning.

Definitely take the doctors script then come back and let us know how many ml a month you get. Hopefully you get a 10ml vial as I have read the 1ml ones are out of stock in a lot of America.

I’ve read this too but I’ve yet to have any issue filling mine so it may just be regional. I’ve also heard it’s the 100mg/ml vials so who knows.

 

[Bigdawg26]

So I called the pharmacy to confirm. The script if for 10ml but they are only allowing 3ml. They said I cld get the 10ml bc that what the script called for, but I had to pay private which is 60.00 no biggie. But they also said I cldnt fill it any sooner and that is 9 mo. Evidently it’s all my ins will allow. I do appreciate all the help so far. I was hoping for atleast .5 weekly.

 

[T&H]

The only problem with self medicating is that I don’t have a source. I’ve read through the underground and found a few possibles but haven’t reached out to see who’s g2g. I did call a TRT clinic today and they are 400.00 per month labs included. How long does someone need to go to a clinic before they could go on their own? Or is the idea to go to a clinic and learn and then try to get doc to prescribe? What are the odds of my PC putting me back on after I work with a TRT clinic? Thanks

If you spent some time reading thru the top domestic source threads, you should easily find 2 or 3 that are no Brainers to go with. Most people here want a handout and not invest the time researching.

If you Decide to grab ugl test, go reading thru some threads starting at the last page moving forward.

 

[TrenE]

Now you need to learn about needle dead space if using a draw needle then switching to a smaller for injection. Also I he airlock technique will come in handy.
I wrote this out to try helping people that are new and want to use fixed insulin syringes to illuminate waste or using to much.

TRT PROTOCOL

1. treatment

You can start high and work down or you can start low and work up.

In Australia you can get 250mg every 10 days , this works out at 175mg a week Your starting dose doesn't really matter as most guys need 100mg+ per week to be optimised, but there are certainly some who need less. End destination is the same so work with your doctor.

With primoteston you can inject every 5days 0.5ml or weekly as the castor oil helps half life.

You can Inject shallow IM with 30g 8ml 0.5ml insulin syringes or a 27g 1/2 if you have a bit of fat. As you get more comfortable with injecting, you can inject 2x per week MWF, EOD, or daily.

Most people end up on 125mg-175mg per week to achieve optimal SERUM levels and RESOLUTION OF SYMPTOMS.

2. Blood Work

Bloods should be checked every 6 weeks after starting therapy until you have achieved the above. Keep in mind if you get your blood work done before the 6 week mark, your levels may still climb a little before they stabalise, but it can help to get blood work early if things aren't feeling great incase you are way off.

A usual titration up or down would be 25-50mg a week depending on how far you are off the mark.

Blood work should be done when you are due for your next injection. Always get blood work done at the same time relative to your injection frequency.
3. Goal Levels

Most guys need Free T 700pmil/L to achieve optimal symptom resolution and health markers. Some need closer to 900 Total T will look like 25-35nmol/L

 

[Bigdawg26]

If you spent some time reading thru the top domestic source threads, you should easily find 2 or 3 that are no Brainers to go with. Most people here want a handout and not invest the time researching.

If you Decide to grab ugl test, go reading thru some threads starting at the last page moving

Thanks bro. I’ll take a look and be working on that as a backup if all else fails.

 

[Bigdawg26]

Now you need to learn about needle dead space if using a draw needle then switching to a smaller for injection. Also I he airlock technique will come in handy.
I wrote this out to try helping people that are new and want to use fixed insulin syringes to illuminate waste or using to much.

TRT PROTOCOL

1. treatment

You can start high and work down or you can start low and work up.

In Australia you can get 250mg every 10 days , this works out at 175mg a week Your starting dose doesn't really matter as most guys need 100mg+ per week to be optimised, but there are certainly some who need less. End destination is the same so work with your doctor.

With primoteston you can inject every 5days 0.5ml or weekly as the castor oil helps half life.

You can Inject shallow IM with 30g 8ml 0.5ml insulin syringes or a 27g 1/2 if you have a bit of fat. As you get more comfortable with injecting, you can inject 2x per week MWF, EOD, or daily.

Most people end up on 125mg-175mg per week to achieve optimal SERUM levels and RESOLUTION OF SYMPTOMS.

2. Blood Work

Bloods should be checked every 6 weeks after starting therapy until you have achieved the above. Keep in mind if you get your blood work done before the 6 week mark, your levels may still climb a little before they stabalise, but it can help to get blood work early if things aren't feeling great incase you are way off.

A usual titration up or down would be 25-50mg a week depending on how far you are off the mark.

Blood work should be done when you are due for your next injection. Always get blood work done at the same time relative to your injection frequency.
3. Goal Levels

Most guys need Free T 700pmil/L to achieve optimal symptom resolution and health markers. Some need closer to 900 Total T will look like 25-35nmol/L

Thank you that’s good knowledge. May have to reach out later depending on where this leads.

 

[Big_paul]

. Test was 340, they said normal range was from 264-916

So the choice is low t or what?

 

[Rido]

I use matrix. I bounce between ugly and their test c. They don't give me shit. They know I go on blast.

I buy their test and their products to give them business and they give me legal protection.

 

[TrenE]

Thank you that’s good knowledge. May have to reach out later depending on where this leads.

Happy to help with anything.
It’s all a big learning curve for you so don’t worry how stupid you think the question is , if you don’t know the answer it’s not stupid to ask. It’s stupid not to ask.

 

[Bigdawg26]

I haven

So the choice is low t or what?

t seen the doc since then, it has just been the nurse that has called to give me the lab results. And plan moving forward. I don’t guess I’ll see the doc until after my 2 mo lab work.