Trump dismisses CIA report of hacking by Russia?

What's your point? They compiled information from multiple sites commenting on what the FBI said, including the Washington Post which as kawilt noted posted BS (as usual). But the Post also posted a video of some of the DC hacks commenting on the topic, whcih I found entertaining.
Just saying Zero hedge may not be a good source for accurate information. I will do some research on comments made by Trumps oldest son in 2008 where he claims that Trump was making alot of money in Russia.

And for the latest Trump claims smart people don't need daily intel briefing.
 
Just saying Zero hedge may not be a good source for accurate information. I will do some research on comments made by Trumps oldest son in 2008 where he claims that Trump was making alot of money in Russia.

And for the latest Trump claims smart people don't need daily intel briefing.

Neither is Wikipedia. But I doubt would would like any of the sites I watch. Like most things information related, you have to learn how to extract diamonds from dung heaps, preferably without getting your hands dirty.
 
Neither is Wikipedia. But I doubt would would like any of the sites I watch. Like most things information related, you have to learn how to extract diamonds from dung heaps, preferably without getting your hands dirty.
Trump is probably a regular at Zero Hedge, and the dung heap is Zero Hedge and sites like it, and they are yours. :)
 
I dismiss the cia's report as well. Obama has been using the CIA for political purposes. Hence the benghazi was started because of a YouTube video. The FBI also dismissed the CIA report. According to what I've seen the CIA hasn't found anything to prove Russia was behind this and that they were behind trump in this election. There's just as much circumstantial evidence that they were behind hillary as there was for Trump.
 
The weirdest thing about all this is the explicit admission, by the freaking president no less, that the US "democracy" is so fragile it is vulnerable to a few foreign hackers providing accurate information on crimes committed by one of the candidates. In other words, the current government is vulnerable to an informed public. Not that I didn't know that, but both Hillary and Obama came right out and said it.

Anything that depends upon the collective consciousness of an uninformed populace is indeed fragile. Absence of knowledge is not absence of fact. We know the contents of Hilary's server, but not Trump's. The DNC, but not the RNC.


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Raimondo always does a nice job of putting the pieces in order. Not really any new data for anyone paying attention.

The Russian narrative has been going on so long that, like the WMD narrative, the media is now actively engaged in ignoring/suppressing the data that doesn't fit while fabricating data that does.

The Leak That Came in From the Cold

Craig Murray tells all – media ignores him

by Justin Raimondo, December 16, 2016

What difference, at this point, does it make?

As the frantic attempts by die-hard Democrats, the media, and the CIA to prevent Donald Trump by being sworn into office reach a fever pitch, Hillary Clinton’s anguished cry seems like the only appropriate response. Trump won the election, he’s now announcing his Cabinet, and that’s the end of the matter.

Or is it only the beginning?

When the CIA targets a country for regime change, I wouldn’t bet the farm on the targeted government surviving. And while this isn’t quite Allende’s Chile, America’s increasing resemblance to a banana republic is augured in the CIA’s refusal to appear at a congressional oversight committee to explain leaks in the press charging that Russian intelligence actively worked to elect Trump. So who’s in charge here – the CIA or the people’s elected representatives?

The White House has joined the fray, implying that the PEOTUS is directly colluding with Moscow. White House spokesman Josh Earnest stated that Trump was “obviously” aware, “based on whatever sources were available to him,” that the Russians were behind the alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta. Because, you see, Trump has a direct line to the Kremlin: after all, how else could the Russians issue their marching orders?

It’s unlikely, albeit possible, that this brouhaha is going to prevent Trump from taking office: the “Hamilton electors” campaign doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, in spite of the best efforts of Christine Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s daughter – gee, how did she become an elector, I wonder?

The game plan of “the Resistance” – yes, that’s what these drama queens call themselves – seems to be to block what the CIA and the neoconservative NeverTrumpers fear the most: Trump’s vow to turn US foreign policy around, align with Russia against Saudi-jihadist elements in the Middle East, and bring an end to the policy of “intervention and chaos,” as the President-elect put it in one of his “victory tour” speeches. Their strategy is to Russia-bait him into exhaustion, block his nominees to national security positions – Rex Tillorsen will face the McCain-Graham inquisition, to be sure – and utilize the media to unleash a tsunami of fake news designed to smear him as Putin’s poodle.

The first phase of this assault is slated to be endless congressional hearings on the subject of Russian “influence” in American politics: think of the old House Un-American Activities Committee. “Are you or have you ever been …?” And the outgoing administration is going to leave a turd in the icebox with the “report” on the whole matter ordered by President Obama to be placed on his desk before January 20.

Yet this whole ginned-up controversy is starting to come unglued, as congressional Republicans start to http://www.westernjournalism.com/thepoint/2016/12/15/gop-rep-launches-bombshell-attack-on-obama-spies-trump-russia-story-1-word-says-it-all/, both the FBI and the ODNI distance themselves from the CIA’s assessment, and even John Bolton challenges the narrative, calling into question the entire basis of the conspiracy theory at the heart of the “Putin did it” campaign. Technical experts are also raising their voices, pointing out the http://icitech.org/its-the-russians-or-is-it-cold-war-rhetoric-in-the-digital-age/ in the publicly available case of those who claim to know that the Kremlin is behind an elaborate plot to upend the American political system. An excellent article in the Intercept asks such pertinent questions as why, if the Russians are so diabolically clever, did they leave Cyrillic comments on their cyber-trail? “Would a group whose ‘tradecraft is superb’ with ‘operational security second to none” really leave behind the name of a Soviet spy chief imprinted on a document it sent to American journalists?”

Speaking of American journalists: the media-industrial complex, which was clearly an arm of the Clinton machine during the election campaign, is steadfastly ignoring the biggest development in this ongoing story: Craig Murray, a close confidante of Julian Assange, has now revealed the real story of how both the DNC emails and the Podesta email archive were acquired by WikiLeaks.

Murray, the United Kingdom’s former Ambassador to Uzbekistan, says “Neither of the leaks came from the Russians. The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.” The leakers were “disgusted whistleblowers” disillusioned with the Clinton campaign’s sidelining of Bernie Sanders and what they viewed as the corruption of the Clinton Foundation.

According to Murray, while someone may have hacked the DNC and John Podesta, the fact is that hackers were not Assange’s source. In the Daily Mail version of this story, the British tabloid reports that Murray said he flew to Washington, D.C., and met a go-between “in a wooded area near American University,” which is in the northwestern part of the city. The hand-off of what is described as a “package” took place there, and the rest is history.

However, in an extensive interview with Antiwar Radio’s Scott Horton, Murray doesn’t say he personally received the materials, although he does say he took a trip to Washington in September that was somehow connected to this affair. He is firm in his contention that a) Both the DNC and Podesta leaks were the work of Americans, not Russians, and b) The leaks were separate, and the perpetrators were different people. Furthermore, Murray strongly implies that John Podesta — whose brother, Tony, is a registered lobbyist for Saudi Arabia, and whose public relations firm, the Podesta Group, received $140,000 monthly payments from the Kingdom – was hacked by American intelligence officials, who were perhaps motivated by undue Saudi influence on the Clinton campaign. (Judge Andrew Napolitano has a similar take.) As for the DNC leaks, this too was, according to Murray, the work of Americans, although he is less explicit about their identity: the implication is that the individual or individuals who provided WikiLeaks with the emails supported Bernie Sanders, although this isn’t clear. (In an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, Julian Assange is asked about Murray’s story, and he basically refuses to answer: “I don’t want to go anywhere near that,” he says.)

Here is someone intimately involved with the WikiLeaks operation claiming to have significant knowledge of the leaks and their provenance. One would think the media would be eager to interview him, and get the biggest story to come down the pike in quite a while. Yet, so far, there has been almost no mention of Murray’s revelation in any major US media outlet, save for a few short pieces on http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/15/wikileaks-figure-says-disgusted-democrat-leaked-clinton-campaign-emails and the Washington Examiner.

Why is that?

As I pointed out last summer:

“What’s striking is that for all this subjective ‘analysis’ and cyber-sleuthing, no one is pointing to what should be the first suspicion in such a case: that the hacking of the DNC server was an inside job. Is it all that improbable that someone working for the DNC is a supporter of Bernie Sanders – or just someone who believes in elemental fairness – who saw how the DNC was rigging the game and used their access to supply WikiLeaks with the emails? As WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told ‘Democracy Now’ in an interview, ‘If we’re talking about the DNC, there’s lots of consultants, lots of programmers’ with means, motive, and opportunity.

“Why isn’t this very broad hint by someone who’s in a position to know who was responsible admissible evidence? It’s being studiously ignored because it doesn’t fit the narrative that the media and the Democrats – or do I repeat myself – want to push on the public.”

Now that the Facebook/Legacy Media alliance is setting up mechanisms to filter out “fake news,” i.e. news and opinion they would rather you didn’t read or even know about, the truth is going to be even harder to get out there. Yes, both the Washington Post – which ran the PropOrNot smear as front page “news” – and ABC News are slated to be official “fact-checkers” who will rule on what sort of “fake news” you won’t be allowed to see.

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Raimondo always does a nice job of putting the pieces in order. Not really any new data for anyone paying attention.

The Russian narrative has been going on so long that, like the WMD narrative, the media is now actively engaged in ignoring/suppressing the data that doesn't fit while fabricating data that does.

The Leak That Came in From the Cold

Craig Murray tells all – media ignores him

by Justin Raimondo, December 16, 2016

What difference, at this point, does it make?

As the frantic attempts by die-hard Democrats, the media, and the CIA to prevent Donald Trump by being sworn into office reach a fever pitch, Hillary Clinton’s anguished cry seems like the only appropriate response. Trump won the election, he’s now announcing his Cabinet, and that’s the end of the matter.

Or is it only the beginning?

When the CIA targets a country for regime change, I wouldn’t bet the farm on the targeted government surviving. And while this isn’t quite Allende’s Chile, America’s increasing resemblance to a banana republic is augured in the CIA’s refusal to appear at a congressional oversight committee to explain leaks in the press charging that Russian intelligence actively worked to elect Trump. So who’s in charge here – the CIA or the people’s elected representatives?

The White House has joined the fray, implying that the PEOTUS is directly colluding with Moscow. White House spokesman Josh Earnest stated that Trump was “obviously” aware, “based on whatever sources were available to him,” that the Russians were behind the alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta. Because, you see, Trump has a direct line to the Kremlin: after all, how else could the Russians issue their marching orders?

It’s unlikely, albeit possible, that this brouhaha is going to prevent Trump from taking office: the “Hamilton electors” campaign doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, in spite of the best efforts of Christine Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s daughter – gee, how did she become an elector, I wonder?

The game plan of “the Resistance” – yes, that’s what these drama queens call themselves – seems to be to block what the CIA and the neoconservative NeverTrumpers fear the most: Trump’s vow to turn US foreign policy around, align with Russia against Saudi-jihadist elements in the Middle East, and bring an end to the policy of “intervention and chaos,” as the President-elect put it in one of his “victory tour” speeches. Their strategy is to Russia-bait him into exhaustion, block his nominees to national security positions – Rex Tillorsen will face the McCain-Graham inquisition, to be sure – and utilize the media to unleash a tsunami of fake news designed to smear him as Putin’s poodle.

The first phase of this assault is slated to be endless congressional hearings on the subject of Russian “influence” in American politics: think of the old House Un-American Activities Committee. “Are you or have you ever been …?” And the outgoing administration is going to leave a turd in the icebox with the “report” on the whole matter ordered by President Obama to be placed on his desk before January 20.

Yet this whole ginned-up controversy is starting to come unglued, as congressional Republicans start to http://www.westernjournalism.com/thepoint/2016/12/15/gop-rep-launches-bombshell-attack-on-obama-spies-trump-russia-story-1-word-says-it-all/, both the FBI and the ODNI distance themselves from the CIA’s assessment, and even John Bolton challenges the narrative, calling into question the entire basis of the conspiracy theory at the heart of the “Putin did it” campaign. Technical experts are also raising their voices, pointing out the http://icitech.org/its-the-russians-or-is-it-cold-war-rhetoric-in-the-digital-age/ in the publicly available case of those who claim to know that the Kremlin is behind an elaborate plot to upend the American political system. An excellent article in the Intercept asks such pertinent questions as why, if the Russians are so diabolically clever, did they leave Cyrillic comments on their cyber-trail? “Would a group whose ‘tradecraft is superb’ with ‘operational security second to none” really leave behind the name of a Soviet spy chief imprinted on a document it sent to American journalists?”

Speaking of American journalists: the media-industrial complex, which was clearly an arm of the Clinton machine during the election campaign, is steadfastly ignoring the biggest development in this ongoing story: Craig Murray, a close confidante of Julian Assange, has now revealed the real story of how both the DNC emails and the Podesta email archive were acquired by WikiLeaks.

Murray, the United Kingdom’s former Ambassador to Uzbekistan, says “Neither of the leaks came from the Russians. The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.” The leakers were “disgusted whistleblowers” disillusioned with the Clinton campaign’s sidelining of Bernie Sanders and what they viewed as the corruption of the Clinton Foundation.

According to Murray, while someone may have hacked the DNC and John Podesta, the fact is that hackers were not Assange’s source. In the Daily Mail version of this story, the British tabloid reports that Murray said he flew to Washington, D.C., and met a go-between “in a wooded area near American University,” which is in the northwestern part of the city. The hand-off of what is described as a “package” took place there, and the rest is history.

However, in an extensive interview with Antiwar Radio’s Scott Horton, Murray doesn’t say he personally received the materials, although he does say he took a trip to Washington in September that was somehow connected to this affair. He is firm in his contention that a) Both the DNC and Podesta leaks were the work of Americans, not Russians, and b) The leaks were separate, and the perpetrators were different people. Furthermore, Murray strongly implies that John Podesta — whose brother, Tony, is a registered lobbyist for Saudi Arabia, and whose public relations firm, the Podesta Group, received $140,000 monthly payments from the Kingdom – was hacked by American intelligence officials, who were perhaps motivated by undue Saudi influence on the Clinton campaign. (Judge Andrew Napolitano has a similar take.) As for the DNC leaks, this too was, according to Murray, the work of Americans, although he is less explicit about their identity: the implication is that the individual or individuals who provided WikiLeaks with the emails supported Bernie Sanders, although this isn’t clear. (In an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, Julian Assange is asked about Murray’s story, and he basically refuses to answer: “I don’t want to go anywhere near that,” he says.)

Here is someone intimately involved with the WikiLeaks operation claiming to have significant knowledge of the leaks and their provenance. One would think the media would be eager to interview him, and get the biggest story to come down the pike in quite a while. Yet, so far, there has been almost no mention of Murray’s revelation in any major US media outlet, save for a few short pieces on http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/15/wikileaks-figure-says-disgusted-democrat-leaked-clinton-campaign-emails and the Washington Examiner.

Why is that?

As I pointed out last summer:

“What’s striking is that for all this subjective ‘analysis’ and cyber-sleuthing, no one is pointing to what should be the first suspicion in such a case: that the hacking of the DNC server was an inside job. Is it all that improbable that someone working for the DNC is a supporter of Bernie Sanders – or just someone who believes in elemental fairness – who saw how the DNC was rigging the game and used their access to supply WikiLeaks with the emails? As WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told ‘Democracy Now’ in an interview, ‘If we’re talking about the DNC, there’s lots of consultants, lots of programmers’ with means, motive, and opportunity.

“Why isn’t this very broad hint by someone who’s in a position to know who was responsible admissible evidence? It’s being studiously ignored because it doesn’t fit the narrative that the media and the Democrats – or do I repeat myself – want to push on the public.”

Now that the Facebook/Legacy Media alliance is setting up mechanisms to filter out “fake news,” i.e. news and opinion they would rather you didn’t read or even know about, the truth is going to be even harder to get out there. Yes, both the Washington Post – which ran the PropOrNot smear as front page “news” – and ABC News are slated to be official “fact-checkers” who will rule on what sort of “fake news” you won’t be allowed to see.

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"Operation Cankles" - Russian Intervention Exposed

Tyler Durden
Dec 26, 2016 8:50 PM

Did the Russians really rig the 2016 US election? The Daily Telegraph's Tim Blair exposes 'the truth' - You bet they did!

Secret documents recently discovered in a bin behind a Kremlin-district 24-hour cabbage and tobacco store reveal for the first time the devious extent of Russian interference. These plans were decades in the making.



Read on, as never-before-seen communiques between Russian agents Sergei Potrov and Dimitri Bienko outline the wicked plot – beginning in 1947, on the day of Hillary Clinton’s birth:

Dearest Dimitri

I am pleased to report that phase one of Operation Cankles is total success! Soviet implantation of stupid American woman resulted in birth today of hefty girl-child destined to be unelectable candidate 70 years from now.

Child is basically just ankles and head, similar to sturdy and hard-working female stock from adored Ilmensky Mountains. In decadent America, nobody will ever vote for such a noble being.

Yours in Soviet solidarity,
Sergei

Back in Moscow, Bienko receives the news from his undercover US-based operative with communist glee:

Dearest Sergei,

You have done very well, comrade! Especially with the implantation. I trust the child has your eyebrow.

We have already begun looking at similar strategies in other western nations. When you are next on leave, ask me to show you plans for Operation Julia. Australia is next to face unforgiving Soviet wrath!

Yours,
Dimitri

As the years go by, our pair of dedicated spies continue to monitor Hillary’s progress and other events:

Dearest Dimitri,

Greetings again from Americas. Heh heh heh! Apologies for chuckles, but am watching hilarious documentary called Honeymooners. Is about domestic violence. Very good.

Am needing laugh because hips in pain from imitating the Elvis Presley. Will send you LP of the Presley once Russia has record players.

Hillary now at school and shunned by corrupt classmates in thrall of military-industrial capitalism. All proceeding exactly according to strategic project timeline.

Yours in everlasting revolution,
Sergei

Called away from Operation Cankles for a brief and triumphant mission to Dallas in 1963, Potrov soon returns to his main quest:

Dearest Dimitri,

My ‘holiday’ in Texas was wonderful, thank you for asking. Not so good for Agent Oswald, however. I will miss him. He could make a fine okroshka soup, which is very rare here. The Americans, they prefer their eggs shelled and cooked. And from birds.

How is this for funny? Hillary ran for president of high school and lost to braggart teen with big crazy hair and grabby hands! Is almost like a practice run or something.

Next step is to find university for her. Wellesley is ideal. More communists than all of Soviet Union, except parents drive Cadillacs (sort of like our ZiL, but wheels stay on).

Yours in earnest progress,
Sergei

Occasionally Agent Potrov would vanish from the attention of his Soviet overlords, as this urgent 1967 cable shows:

Comrade Sergei Potrov,

We have not heard from you since you volunteered to investigate the ‘counterculture movement’ in San Francisco three months ago. We assume that your one message, requesting ‘more bread, man’ to buy ‘reefer and doobies’, was written in a code unknown even to our finest cryptographers.

Also, the message was sent on paper from which several strips had been torn. Have you insufficient funds to purchase cigarettes? Please contact your superiors immediately. And stop playing Creedence on our interspy sonic network. This is not what the Soviet surveillance system is for.

Yours in concern,
Central Command

During the mid-70s, the Russians toast a mission-advancing coup:

It is not to be believed! Hillary is getting married – to a man! You owe me 50 rubles, Dimitri.

The fellow is Bill, called by friends ‘horn dog’, ‘el squeezo’ and ‘the Arkansas assman’. He is very political. All his girlfriends say so. By ‘all his girlfriends’, I mean whole female population of Little Rock. He go through them like great winter purge of traitor generals.

This can only assist our mission. Perhaps this Bill will even make it to the White House, if he can keep it in his pants for long enough (is phrase I pick up here).

Yours in jubilation,
Sergei

Even tectonic global changes could not sway Agents Potrov and Bienko from their cause:

Dearest Sergei,

Alas, our beloved Soviet Union is no more. Gorbachev has ruined everything. Please do not give up on Operation Cankles. It may prove to be the final major accomplishment of our great land and heroic peoples.

In other news, our budget has been slightly trimmed. Suggest you monitor Hillary from American streets, where lucrative sign-holding job will provide cover and help pay rent.

Yours in Glasnost,
Dimitri

Finally, on November 8, 2016, Sergei’s long mission comes to a victorious conclusion – on the veteran agent’s 94th birthday:

Dearest Dimitri,

I know you have been dead ten years already, but I write to you for fondness and memories. Great friend, it is done. All that we have worked for, all that we have planned, all that we have dreamed. Our unelectable candidate was truly unelectable. Even the other patients here in the home did not vote for her. One voted for Eisenhower.

My time is not long, Dimitri. Soon I shall see you again, in the heaven that is a frozen-solid Siberian grave. We will rest in honour. Our work on this earth is complete.

Yours in espionage,
Sergei

Satirical Source: The Daily Telegraph
 
What a fucking douche bag. He is one thin skin bitch, to the point that he disregards the truth about Russia meddling in elections in the west. Without Russia and Comey he would be licking his wounds in trump castle.

He even claims he won the popular vote. Welcome to Trumpland.

It blows my mind that Trump is disregarding our intelligence services. The cocksucker isn't even getting daily intelligence reports. I guess he does know more than the Generals!

That motherfucker is in for a rough ride.
While Trump screwed up by openly calling for Russia to hack dems/Hillary Emails
He astutely dismissed it by exposing how moronic "intelligence" agencies are, like Iraq purported WMDs.

The winning side writes history books ...and rules
He will get away with it
 
While Trump screwed up by openly calling for Russia to hack dems/Hillary Emails
He astutely dismissed it by exposing how moronic "intelligence" agencies are, like Iraq purported WMDs.

The winning side writes history books ...and rules
He will get away with it
I believe there's a lot of "history" you guy's have missed regarding the CIA.
 
While Trump screwed up by openly calling for Russia to hack dems/Hillary Emails
He astutely dismissed it by exposing how moronic "intelligence" agencies are, like Iraq purported WMDs.

The winning side writes history books ...and rules
He will get away with it
Now he is completely dismissing the fact that Russia has used cyber espionage to change the outcome of our election. No worries though, my bet is he will be impeached before his term is over. I think it is comical. :)
 
But, in the interest of providing the historical record, what was the U.S. intelligence community’s record on Iraqi WMDs, and did the Bush administration hype the evidence? The pre-war intelligence on Iraq: Wrong or hyped by the Bush White House?

A 2008 Senate Intelligence Committee report, adopted in a bipartisan vote, that examined whether administration officials accurately portrayed the underlying intelligence was unsparing in its criticism of this aspect of the White House’s case for war. The 170-page report said such Iraq/al-Qaeda statements were “not substantiated by the intelligence,” adding that multiple CIA reports dismissed the claim that Iraq and al-Qaeda were cooperating partners – and that there was no intelligence information that supported administration statements that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda.
 
"and that there was no intelligence information that supported administration statements that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda."

I didn't read the
2008 Senate Intelligence Committee report, but did it say that Iraq did not have, or they didn't think they had weapons of mass destruction? Or that it would just not provide the weapons to al-Queda?
 
"and that there was no intelligence information that supported administration statements that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda."
I want to see Trumps tax returns. Has it ever occurred to you that he is hiding something he really doesn't want anyone to see? It will all come out at his impeachment.
 
I want to see Trumps tax returns. Has it ever occurred to you that he is hiding something he really doesn't want anyone to see? It will all come out at his impeachment.
Why are you quoting me? You didn't address the question!
And why do we have two threads on the same subject? Trump.
 
And why do we have two threads on the same subject? Trump.

One of the Trump threads is clogged with repetitive fabricated anti-Trump BS. The other is mostly propaganda Dr. Scally forwards from Twitter. The anti-Trump BS is more to my liking, since it takes less time to load : )
 
Why are you quoting me? You didn't address the question!
And why do we have two threads on the same subject? Trump.
There is room for another thread. Can't get too much Trump.
I believe there's a lot of "history" you guy's have missed regarding the CIA.

Trump's people are claiming that the intelligence services are incompetent because their intel doesn't fit Trumps narrative that he won the election fair and square when the fact is that the Russians most likely were able to sway at least 70-80 thousand votes in Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin, and that is how Trump won. It was no landslide.as he clains. He lost by nearly 3 million votes. That makes 2 times in 16 years that the Republican party stole an election. Now we have this megalomaniac.

The CIA has screwed up in the past. I'm aware of that.
 
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