Absolutely. If that is the best we can do we are screwed. The alternative is trump. Personally I would support aoc for president and Maxine Waters for vp before I would support trump. And you know tbose stupid mf's are going to run trump.
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Sorry man, I get that you don't like trump.
Hell , truth is, I don't like the loudmouth braggart myself as far as that goes.
But, I'd vote for AOC, before I would Joe Biden.
Fuck man, I'd vote for Mike Tyson, Whoopi Goldberg or Donald duck before I would Joe Biden.
Nothing personal.
I can't say I like trump, but I think you're ok.
Hook line and sinker. Again I just completely disagree. Trump sold out Afghanistan and cut a deal with the Taliban. Where in the fuck do you come up with this bullshit?
It wasn't a war we could win without a permanent military presence, but to say trump played no part in it is just fucking ignorant.
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What's fucking ignorant is you pretending like trump is responsible for what happened in Afghanistan.
I know you suffer from some really bad trump derangement syndrome paul, but Afghanistan was going on before trump, and like it or not, Joe biden called all the shots on that ridiculous withdrawal stunt that shamed everyone involved. It was Joe biden who ultimately replaced the taliban, with, the taliban. Not Donald Trump
Joe biden is the guy who accepted millions in bribes from Ukraine and promised them nato membership while knowing full Well it would provoke a military response from Russia.
You're really poorly informed Paul. You should research more than just the cnn orange man bad bullshit.
You know there's a whole world out there that turns on its own despite that big orange boogeyman of your obsession
I still like and respect you Hughinn.
Did trump or did he not cut a deal with the taliban to cease attacks on Americans and entirely cut the Afphgan government out?
This is one of the very few things I feel that that megalomaniac motherfucker got right.
After 20 yrs if a country can't, and after a trillion dollars, stand on it's own feet, sorry. It is not our responsibility. If equal rights is not a high priority for the Afghans, it isn't for me.
There is a stark difference between Ukraine and Afghanistan. These are people worth defending. I only wish we would do more.
I understand Paul. And I think you're an intelligent guy and I respect you as well.
You're right, Trump dealt with the Taliban. I'm not arguing against that. But so did Joe Biden. Barack Obama dealt with al queda as allies in Syria, and he also made deals with the Taliban.
Unfortunately, that part of the way this government operates.
Joe Biden also made deals with the Taliban. He also made deals with the Afghan president , all while lying to the American people about the situation on the ground.
Biden was 'desperate' in leaked phone call with Ghani, says political insider.
Here he told the Afghan president to lie about the situation and give the impression everything was okay.
Joe Biden also tried to broker a power deal with the Taliban.
Joe Biden offers the Taliban a chance to share power in Afghanistan
The United States has offered the Taliban a return to power in Afghanistan in a sweeping deal proposed by President Biden as he seeks to draw the longest war
www.thetimes.co.uk
All while lying to the American people about the situation on the ground.
And he was not legally bound to Trump's agreement anyway.
Joe Biden must ignore the Taliban’s August 31 withdrawal “red line”
We did not ask for permission to send several thousand troops back to Afghanistan this month; why should we ask permission for them to finish their job?
www.brookings.edu
Afghanistan, shameful end is all on Joe Biden my friend. Not the whole mess, lots of people contributed to that, Trump included. But that exit was all on Joe Biden.
This ukranian war, has alot people's hands on it. Joe Biden included.
I feel for the Ukrainian people also Paul. Not in the least because they're a poor country that paid millions of dollars in bribes to people like Joe Biden and got promises and assurances from Barak Obama that America would stand and defend them.
Responding to the Situation in Ukraine
Get information on the Obama administration's response to the situation in Ukraine.
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But instead, the Obama/Biden administration kept thier faces in the mud and picked their pockets. Then Biden tossed them to the dogs when he was done.
I just don't like it
I know you don't either brother.
I just hope it all works out
Brother I don't believe there was any clean way out no matter who was in office.I understand Paul. And I think you're an intelligent guy and I respect you as well.
You're right, Trump dealt with the Taliban. I'm not arguing against that. But so did Joe Biden. Barack Obama dealt with al queda as allies in Syria, and he also made deals with the Taliban.
Unfortunately, that part of the way this government operates.
Joe Biden also made deals with the Taliban. He also made deals with the Afghan president , all while lying to the American people about the situation on the ground.
Biden was 'desperate' in leaked phone call with Ghani, says political insider.
Here he told the Afghan president to lie about the situation and give the impression everything was okay.
Joe Biden also tried to broker a power deal with the Taliban.
Joe Biden offers the Taliban a chance to share power in Afghanistan
The United States has offered the Taliban a return to power in Afghanistan in a sweeping deal proposed by President Biden as he seeks to draw the longest war
All while lying to the American people about the situation on the ground.
And he was not legally bound to Trump's agreement anyway.
Joe Biden must ignore the Taliban’s August 31 withdrawal “red line”
We did not ask for permission to send several thousand troops back to Afghanistan this month; why should we ask permission for them to finish their job?
Afghanistan, shameful end is all on Joe Biden my friend. Not the whole mess, lots of people contributed to that, Trump included. But that exit was all on Joe Biden.
This ukranian war, has alot people's hands on it. Joe Biden included.
I feel for the Ukrainian people also Paul. Not in the least because they're a poor country that paid millions of dollars in bribes to people like Joe Biden and got promises and assurances from Barak Obama that America would stand and defend them.
Responding to the Situation in Ukraine
Get information on the Obama administration's response to the situation in Ukraine.
But instead, the Obama/Biden administration kept thier faces in the mud and picked their pockets. Then Biden tossed them to the dogs when he was done.
I just don't like it
I know you don't either brother.
I just hope it all works out
I do believe the Taliban got the message. Undoubtedly life is more difficult in that country now than before, but the bottom line is we all enjoy our freedom because of the blood shed by people no one remembers today. I'm not saying that Afphgans didn't die for an idea, but there were just not enough who were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice.
I supported the war in 91, and I gave Bush the benifit of the doubt in the 2nd gulf war, although the intel was lacking.
In reality it was a knee-jerk reaction to watching thousands of deaths on 9/11.
It is much more easy to defend a people who are motivated to defend their freedom than a people who fold in a couple weeks.
Sorry bub, what he did in 4 years compared to he likes cops is no contest.
He was the only asshole brave enough to go out in the open and fight seriously main players. The players that will go to any length to kill you.
If they did win, which they won't, the police will be federalized like any other communist/authoritarian dictatorship.
That's the defund the police movement. Believe it when I say you and the govt have two entirely different ideas of what defunding the police means.
Nice guys aren't working, I'm conservative and I'll say the majority of them in office are pussies or bought. There are a few though.
Don't forget where your getting your Trump news from as well. Can they be wrong about everything but Trump? Not likely.
IMO, he'll be back before 2024.
Just jumping on the afgan pullout. Yes, it was time to get out. Trump was the one that made it happen. It ended up as joe's responsibility but it never would have happened if Trump didn't get the ball rolling. And no he wasn't trying to get out of it, he fully expected to win the election and do it himself.
Only the pullout would have been different.
1) Get the people out.
2) Get the 85 billion in equipment out.
3) Pull the military out last.
Pretty simple stuff here but he pulled the military out first.
So the Taliban would have attacked while the military was on the ground?
No way they would have attacked.
He was advised not to do it how he did but he has the globalist's agenda-
www.dailywire.com
www.politico.com
www.cnn.com
www.morningpress.net
fism.tv
www.france24.com
Only the pullout would have been different.
1) Get the people out.
2) Get the 85 billion in equipment out.
3) Pull the military out last.
Pretty simple stuff here but he pulled the military out first.
So the Taliban would have attacked while the military was on the ground?
No way they would have attacked.
He was advised not to do it how he did but he has the globalist's agenda-
Report: Biden Ordered Afghanistan Pullout Against Top Generals’ Warnings
President Joe Biden reportedly overruled the advice of his top military officials when ordering the United States’s pullout from Afghanistan. Biden met with several top military commanders before announcing his intent to withdraw the United States completely from Afghanistan. The generals...
Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan
Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.
www.politico.com
How Biden went his own way on Afghanistan withdrawal
President Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Ten Horrid Blunders Biden Made in Afghanistan - MorningPress
The loss of the 20-year-long war on terror in Afghanistan (along with the squandering of all the progress made on the ground, lives of US troops killed in action, and billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars lost) is just unfathomable. It is the worst foreign policy and international...
www.morningpress.net
Military officials say the President was advised against full Afghanistan withdrawal, contradicting Biden - FISM TV
Thank you for visiting Military officials say the President was advised against full Afghanistan withdrawal, contradicting Biden
Top US generals say they advised against complete pullout from Afghanistan
Top US generals said Tuesday that they advised President Joe Biden to keep American troops in Afghanistan and expressed concern that the Taliban has not severed ties with Al-Qaeda.
www.france24.com
What about the ogliarchs who paid all those bribes to Joe Biden and our own government to instigate this war in the first place?
You talk shit about the Russian ogliarchs. But what about our own? They caused this as much as anyone else
I have ranted about this matter and was banned for 10 days.
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I'm sure - it's all done to divert attention from internal corruption and violation of the law.
