Obama - the failed president

Not true. Ali was brought up on charges as a conscientious objector.

He didn’t have his daddy bail his ass out. He simply said he wasn’t going.
 
Not true. Ali was brought up on charges as a conscientious objector.

He didn’t have his daddy bail his ass out. He simply said he wasn’t going.
Absolutely true Ali dodged the draft. He converted to Islam to qualify for conscientous objector status. Which he was denied and later repealled by the US Supreme court. He was then notified by the govt he was now eligible for the draft under his new status. Thats when he said he wasnt going. What is not to understand about this? He went way out of his way thru 2 separate channels to subvert his draft status. Hes a coward plain and simple.

Congressional medal of honor winner Desmond Doss was a conscientious objector. He chose not to use it as a means to slide out of his responsibilities. He chose to serve his country w/o taking a life. As the movie Hacksaw Ridge depicted. Fought w/o a gun. Thats a man.

Even nature knows a man who will not fight for his family is below worthless. Its evident in the animal kingdom and every fiber of who we are as human beings. Family is country. He didnt seem to have an issue with all the things the US offered his cowardly ass. Education, fame, women, food and resources. Its despicable
 
Even nature knows a man who will not fight for his family is below worthless. Its evident in the animal kingdom and every fiber of who we are as human beings. Family is country. He didnt seem to have an issue with all the things the US offered his cowardly ass.

So Ali and the current president both took different cowardly routes

Ok
 
So Ali and the current president both took different cowardly routes

Ok
Its been a while since we had a Teddy Roosevelt as commander in chief. Those type of men are hard to come by especially in this day and age. But i still prefer all sitting presidents to have served in the armed forces. Guess were 0-3 in the last 3 terms
 
Its been a while since we had a Teddy Roosevelt as commander in chief. Those type of men are hard to come by especially in this day and age. But i still prefer all sitting presidents to have served in the armed forces. Guess were 0-3 in the last 3 terms
At least W and Trump show respect to the troops. The amount of disrespect shown toward the military by Obummer was sickening to say the least
 
At least W and Trump show respect to the troops. The amount of disrespect shown toward the military by Obummer was sickening to say the least
Extreme leftists in general are known as anti military whether they say it or not it seems to be a requirement in their way of thinking. Obama was POTUS during some of my enlistment and he was well known and notoriously cheap on self defense leaving alot of Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen w/o the things they need to do the job they were sent to do. Stark contrast to GW. These are facts
 
Extreme leftists in general are known as anti military whether they say it or not it seems to be a requirement in their way of thinking. Obama was POTUS during some of my enlistment and he was well known and notoriously cheap on self defense leaving alot of Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen w/o the things they need to do the job they were sent to do. Stark contrast to GW. These are facts
I will always stand by my belief that Obummer was the biggest steaming pile of excrement this country has seen with Wilson being a close second.
 
Yeah but what a Wilson and slick willie?
This thread is a topic it’s a bunch of angry conservatives talking about a dude that’s been out of office for almost two years! What exactly are y’all trying to accomplish?
Well bro, Obummer did a lot of shit talk about a dude who had been out of office for 4 then 8 years, continually blaming things on W, so... Obummer had an opportunity to do great things and instead he took every opportunity to bring people into his cabinet to destroy this nation. Plus, the title says it all.
 
Yeah but what a Wilson and slick willie?
This thread is a topic it’s a bunch of angry conservatives talking about a dude that’s been out of office for almost two years! What exactly are y’all trying to accomplish?
BTW - I was just messing with you about staying on topic.
 
BTW - I was just messing with you about staying on topic.
It’s funny I was just about tell you I’m just busting your balls a little. I hate trump but I don’t let it control my psyche. Not saying that your are either.
None of these politicians care about the middle class. The entire system is flawed. It’s all just poli-tricks and greed.
 
It’s funny I was just about tell you I’m just busting your balls a little. I hate trump but I don’t let it control my psyche. Not saying that your are either.
None of these politicians care about the middle class. The entire system is flawed. It’s all just poli-tricks and greed.
Agreed on the last part. I believe Trump has the best interests of America at heart, but ultimately because if America falls, so does his kingdom. I don’t think he could give two shits about the little guys. Then again, maybe he does.
 
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Agreed on the last part. I believe Trump has the best interests of America at heart, but ultimately because if America falls, so does his kingdom. I don’t think he could give two shits about the little guys. Then again, maybe he does.

Of all the folks in the WH since Reagan, I think Trump has the average American in mind far more than any other POTUS. Obama was/is an extreme elitist (and incompetent). In hindsight and compared to current Dems, Bill Clinton wasn't all that bad except for his pure evil witch of a wife. W was far better than his dad although both are very silver spoon. Trump is alright.
 
Of all the folks in the WH since Reagan, I think Trump has the average American in mind far more than any other POTUS. Obama was/is an extreme elitist (and incompetent). In hindsight and compared to current Dems, Bill Clinton wasn't all that bad except for his pure evil witch of a wife. W was far better than his dad although both are very silver spoon. Trump is alright.
W was/is a progressive sell out like his dad.
 
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